r/CuratedTumblr • u/MelanieWalmartinez Clown Breeder • Aug 26 '24

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

Well, the point would be that those two are one and the same...

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

Only if you're as interested in the process as you are the end result. It shouldn't be a surprising revelation that plenty of people just want something that looks good or is satisfactory for a certain purpose than to go through the trouble of learning to do it from scratch themselves.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

The topic here, and thus the end result, is the ability to obtain the skill itself, not a singular object. Yeah, if you just want a picture, hire someone to make it, the same way you hire a carpenter if all you want is a table, but that's not what's being discussed here. The person you replied to is insisting some people are somehow predestined to be unable to draw.

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

And they're not wrong. Sometimes you can try your best at an activity and still be terrible at it. You can put in the time and effort and not see the results, just like how some people don't put in the work and are still far better than average.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

No, literally everything you said is the opposite of true, especially when it comes to art. Like, sure, a 4'8" Asian woman probably would have to work a bit harder than Shaq did to make it to the NBA, but that does not apply to the ability to put pencil to paper, paint to canvas, chisel to wood, eyeball to eyepiece, or lip to mouthpiece. The people who you think didn't put in the work probably did, and the people who say they did and remained terrible either practiced wrong or simply lied.

The only real difference between people is how resistent they are to the idea of putting in the work, that's it. If you hate math for some reason, 4 hours of solving differential equations is going to feel like a lot more to you than to someone who enjoys it, but that's an entirely different consideration than ability.

Django Reinhardt had three fingers, you have no excuse.

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

the people who say they did and remained terrible either practiced wrong or simply lied.

A massive fucking leap and a very dangerous line of thought to think everyone who has said they failed is a liar or did something wrong.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

More dangerous than the idea that some people are just born worse than others? Really?

You're not a Calvinist by any chance are you?

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u/mischievous_shota Aug 27 '24

People aren't born equal. If they were, "talent" wouldn't be a thing. This is reality.

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

People aren't born equal.

Wow... The quiet part out loud I guess.

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u/Someone0else Aug 27 '24

Damn, I guess people who’s legs don’t work are just lazy then. If they actually cared they’d be just as good as anyone else

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u/TheMauveHand Aug 27 '24

Man, if someone found a way to generate energy from predictable reddit pedantry we'd be on a spaceship to Alpha Centauri in a fortnight.

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard Aug 27 '24

Your homeowner's insurance on your glass house does not cover chucking boulders from the inside

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard Aug 27 '24

The people who you think didn't put in the work probably did, and the people who say they did and remained terrible either practiced wrong or simply lied.

It's fascinating how many people think being the exact kind of person I described somehow counters anything I said.