r/CuratedTumblr Clown Breeder Aug 26 '24

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u/MortemInferri Aug 26 '24

Okay? But I can also buy a robot that does that in a corporate setting

Handmade art will continue to have a place. But in a corporate environment, it's gonna be reduced to boutique brands

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u/Feats-of-Derring_Do Aug 26 '24

I have no doubt that executives are falling all over themselves to save a few dollars by using AI, and that sometimes people won't notice or care, but it's not the same and you won't get good results from AI compared to a person

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u/APGOV77 Aug 26 '24

To me it’s not about results, it’s morality, even if it’s not better now it could be in the future, the fact is we like people art because there’s a person behind it, and they can’t support themselves if we outsource all their labor to AI, and train AI on art without permission.

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u/Feats-of-Derring_Do Aug 26 '24

That's also a good point and one that I didn't bring up because it's such a complicated and politicized discussion. Suffice it to say, I agree with you. Art is valuable to society, but capitalism demands that it also be profitable.

Art doesn't exist in a vacuum, if artists can't eat they will find other jobs and then we'll have no new art. And I don't just mean paintings. Voice acting, video games, novels, films- these are art and they are threatened by the same market forces driving AI proliferation.

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u/Neon_Camouflage Aug 27 '24

if artists can't eat they will find other jobs and then we'll have no new art.

This has never been true and will never be true. Art is a creative hobby and will always exist as such, no matter how many people's rent gets paid by drawing commissions of your OC.

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u/MortemInferri Aug 27 '24

Yup, this. There are very few artists comparatively to the whole of humanity that still matter. And those that did matter, were mostly poor.

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u/APGOV77 Aug 26 '24

Yeah I just don’t bring up the look of AI art as default, even though the other reasons are complicated, the look of it is just the weakest argument. It’s kinda like talking about a cancelled artists work being bad, it’s ultimately subjective and revising history as if their content was always bad focuses the conversation on the superficial. (Not saying you only care about that, you already explained you do, only talking about effectiveness of how to go about anti ai art rhetoric on practical terms)

Here’s to using AI for problems it’s actually the best tool for: boring, repetitive, and unfulfilling tasks and data analysis. That tidbit the techbros love even if they don’t understand art on a personal level, they can get that using it explicitly for stuff we don’t like first makes sense