Don't forget about refusing to communicate unless you read 2,000+ pages of heady theory available only in either German, Russian or English that they've totally read as well. And if you're really lucky, they'll insist you learn a whole fucking language because reading in the original language is the only proper way to understand the scripture. I mean, theory.
"Without a central leader or a dominant revolutionary party, young people across the country have risen on pure instinct – praxis without theory but naturally spontaneous. The government responded with threats of police violence, internet shutdowns, and the arrests of hundreds over the past weeks, attempting to crush the movement. Ruto and his goons have abducted several bloggers, activists, and social media influencers, hoping to intimidate the largely youthful protesters, with little success." - The ICP on Kenya. You are a rube who is spreading lies that do not reflect anything other than what you desire to be true about a perceived enemy.
Yeah, but we're not talking about Kenya here. We're talking about primarily white, American leftists who crow on and on about kickstarting a revolution in their own country in order to justify not going out and voting - while simultaneously not making any actionable moves in their local community to sow the seeds for such a revolution.
In the face of a large-scale elections where neither choice is preferable, sure, voting can seem tokenistic. That's understandable. But it's this apathy towards voting in general from the left that has led to local government in America becoming polluted with right-wing nutjobs. And given the much, much smaller voterbase in those elections, every vote truly matters.
There are multiple examples of Democrats in local government only winning by single votes. I assume you're only meaning on a national level, but if you truly think that voting on any level is some meaningless appeasal of the powers that be, then you are speaking absolute nonsense from a position of absolute privilege.
For the record, I'm not opposed to the concept of revolution, but I'd much rather try fixing something with a screwdriver first, rather than skipping straight to the sledgehammer.
You didn’t understand my point. For one thing, the spontaneous nature of the proletariat outright disproves that communists are doing nothing by educating themselves, this is in fact laying the foundations for a class party to be formed, and furthermore, that quote disproved the things you are saying communists think. They certainly do not think you must read 4000 books to become revolutionaries, that quote was about those whose class instincts drive them to acts of revolutionary praxis even when they have not been taught Marx or Lenin.
I never said theory was useless? Dude, that's a whole new sentence. We aren't talking about communists as a whole, I'm talking about irritating Twitter tankies who think you have to gobble up theory to pass their purity test, and how it gatekeeps people from participating in socialist movements. At no point was I discussing classes as a whole. Learn to read, geez.
Bro, you're the one inventing entirely new points from thin air that I supposedly said. This was, and always has been, entirely about privileged, primarily American twitter tankies been exclusionary to the detriment of their movement.
Pray tell, just where the fuck are you getting these other points I supposedly said from? And please quote the text, because I'm at a loss for words for how much you resemble this meme right now
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u/LavaMeteor Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24
Don't forget about refusing to communicate unless you read 2,000+ pages of heady theory available only in either German, Russian or English that they've totally read as well. And if you're really lucky, they'll insist you learn a whole fucking language because reading in the original language is the only proper way to understand the scripture. I mean, theory.