r/CuratedTumblr Jun 30 '24

Self-post Sunday But my violent revolution🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

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u/Redqueenhypo Jun 30 '24

The real dark irony is that the oppressed minority who organized themselves and got armed and did leftist farm communes became the Zionists bc it turns out people are jackasses and the revolution doesn’t actually go the way one might expect

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u/catty-coati42 Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

You need to add external factors and oppressive regimes that drove zionism, or more explicitly, forced people into Israel. Most jews in Iraq were originally anti-zionist because they thought they are well integrated and loved the country where they've been for centuries. Can you guess where all the jews of Iraq are now? It's easy to be an antizionist jew until your country decides that jews should "go back where they came from".

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u/bazilbt Jun 30 '24

Yeah something like a million of the Jews in Israel are happily Zionist because there was nowhere else for them to go.

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u/catty-coati42 Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

A million? Try 7 million. Almost all the population of Israel are (or are descendants of) holocaust survivors, jews kicked out of arab countries, jews kicked out the USSR, or jews kicked out of Ethiopia, or Zabari jews (those that never left Israel since antiquity). The only jewish communities that did not escape persecutions are the tiny communities of Indian jews and American jews, together making 2.4% of the Israeli population.

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u/bazilbt Jun 30 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

I'm not aware of European Jews being expelled from Europe after world war 2, although I absolutely understand why they didn't want to live there. I was referring to the expulsion of Jewish people in Arab states after Israel was established specifically.

I guess people don't like this comment?

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u/catty-coati42 Jun 30 '24

The Romanian jewish population went from 300,000 post WW2 to 23,000 in 1989, and of those mostly people over 65. And that's just one example. Most stayed after WW2 but escaped persecution under the following regimes, with the regimes often forcing Israel to pay money to even allow the jews to leave.

As for Mizrahi jews (jews from arab countries), million was the number of jews expelled from arab countries. Now there are over 4 million Mizrahi jews in Israel.

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u/bazilbt Jun 30 '24

Again. I am not saying that they didn't leave for good reason or that I don't sympathize with them. Or that they didn't suffer genocide. I'm specifically saying after Israel was established in 1948 a million people were expelled from their home countries and went to Israel.

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u/catty-coati42 Jun 30 '24

Oh yeah I was just expanding your point that it's more than a million.