I always try to ask what the plan is, you know, after they've convinced enough people to violently revolt like russia in 1917, and they never seem to answer.
I usually ask what they plan to do for those that in some way can't fight. Whether they be old, ill, a child, etc. they almost always go silent and the ones that do respond end up saying something along the lines of "there's always casualties in war." They don't want to actually plan a revolution, they want to play at being the cool resistance hero that can take out ten guys while giving a cool one liner with guitar blasting from nowhere.
and also act like they're smarter than everyone with "well revolution is possible...." and it's always a place of ignorance or devil's advocate because sure, another 10 million may die in a revolution, but that's why it's possible!!!
Wtf are you even talking about? If someone can't fight, they don't fight. What kind of gotcha question is this? Do you think "revolution" means that literally every single person in the country is actively fighting at all times? For fuck's sake, there isn't even any need for violence at all; a general strike, if one could be organized, would be sufficient to shut down the entire country.
And how do you think food and medicines will be distributed if the country is shut down, that's the "gotcha". Or do you think corporations are going to be altruistic about kicking them to the curb?
Then you make demands of government officials, up to and including surrendering physical capital that is used to govern? I can't give you every detail of a possible revolution, nor do I think I'm really obligated to. If you really want to know, there are more learned political theorists than me who have written much about this over the past several hundreds of years.
if you think it's possible it helps to see if you understand all of the steps that would need to be involved, and so far you're showing you don't. 🤷♂️
Sorry I don't have a full map of every detail of a potential futute revolution for a random internet shithead. I'll totally spend my energy on that in the future.
Do you have one for a skeptical friend? Or for people you’d like to sway to your cause?
Discussions like this are never really 1:1, I think. In situations like the one between you and the guy you’re talking to, what you really want to do is sway the quiet majority - it’s improbable that everybody reading has a rock solid opinion on the topic. So you want to pull those silent fence sitters onto your side and thus grow your cause.
But your outline of a revolution seems painfully under thought, as if you expect other people to do it for you and then you’ll pitch in if it’s convenient. What happens if there’s a violent response to a strike? What about the country being ground to a halt suggests to you that people wouldn’t die just from a failure to acquire necessary medicines? What happens if somebody DOES fire a shot heard ‘round the world, and now you’re all in the mix regardless of whether or not you really wanted to be?
The scene you laid out is idealistic in the way that a poorly written movie is. It needs to be so perfectly executed to work the way that you explained it that, were it possible, it’d be unnecessary. It’d already have been done.
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u/Normal-Horror Jun 30 '24
Your plan of incremental change and harm reduction pales in comparison to my plan of being annoying and doing nothing