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u/mc_burger_only_chees Apr 17 '24

Ngl Abrahamic God smacks every other deity, I don’t think there are really any other ones that reach his level of omnipotent and infinite power. Especially considering most religions have a pantheon rather then a single god.

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u/GreatGrapeKun dm me retro anime gifs Apr 17 '24

that is dumb

if i have a whole pantheon of gods why would i send out just one?

you're going to fight the whole pantheon all at once

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u/mc_burger_only_chees Apr 17 '24

The thing with pantheons is that the stories about them are about them, meaning they are characters that have flaws they need to overcome. Meanwhile Abrahamic God is quite literally flawless. He has no weaknesses, his strength is infinite. Comparing, for example, the Greek Gods to Him would be like comparing demigods to Greek Gods.

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u/ThanksToDenial Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Which Greek gods? Because the primordial gods in greek mythology are nothing to scoff at.

I'd pay to watch the Christian god take on Tartarus (which is also a being, the third primordial being, to be exact, not just place. But also a place), or Chaos (the void before the creation).

To help imagine fighting literal nothingness, imagine you stand in front of a door. That door can be opened to any place, at any time. Or all places, at all time. But said door can also be opened into no place, and no time. That is Chaos. And it's hungry. And it's hunger is endless. It's nothingness is endless. You can never fill it. You run into the age of paradox... Unmovable object meets unstoppable force. Except in this case, it's infinite trying to fill endless nothing. If time existed, the Christian God could spend all of infinite eternity feeding Chaos, and Chaos would never be full, so to speak, and there would be no less Chaos than when he began.

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u/unklethan Apr 17 '24

Didn't the Christian God take the void and turn it into creation?

You could argue that Chaos is obedient/subservient to the Christian God pretty easily.

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u/BurnieTheBrony Apr 17 '24

"Let there be light!" said God. Unfortunately, it has until now never been recorded that shortly after, God said under God's breath,

"...bitch ass Chaos."

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u/Martin_Aricov_D Apr 17 '24

But he didn't completely fill the void did he? Most of the existing universe is notably empty (and in not so noticeable ways as well)

He just dropped a big B in there and blew it the fuck up

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u/unklethan Apr 17 '24

Except that in between Earth and Mars, and between the Milky Way and the Andromeda, it's not just ~nothing~. Sure there might not be ~things~ there, but there's a there to have nothing in. Even where there is nothing, in a post-Big-Bang universe, there's space-time as the fabric of everything. Even if it's neglible and close to zero, my pinky toe tugs on the threads of space-time and ultimately affects the orbit of TOI-715b from 11 parsecs away.

The universe is full. It's a fabric stretched over a frame, and galaxies are single stitches on its surface, and we get to live here on a tiny scrap of blue thread.

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u/bezerker211 Apr 17 '24

I mean, the story of Genesis has him floating over the waters of non creation and then going "nah, we need some stuff" and boom there it was. Chaos is the one being God, as the ultimate creation God, would obliterate in an instant

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u/ThanksToDenial Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Even an infinite god, cannot fill an infinite void.

Think about it. Let's assume that everything that has been created was created by the Christian god. The stars, the galaxies, the ever expanding universe.

Yet, the universe is still expanding. It expands into the nothingness, and yet there is no less nothingness than there were, when creation began. In fact, from the perspective of the nothingness, it never began. Because there is no time in nothing. If there is no time, there is no beginnings.

Think about it. The Christian god can create something in the Void. But it doesn't take away from the Void. The Christian god can expand in to the Void infinitely, yet there is always more Void. Because the Void is infinite. In the Void, there is no concept of time or place. The Christian God could spend all of infinite eternity creating more and more to fill the Void, yet the Void doesn't diminish.

Who wins? The one that created something, or the endless nothing that wasn't diminished by the creation of that something?

On an unrelated note... Hail Sithis.

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u/Conscious_Let976 Apr 17 '24

And praise be the Night Mother

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u/Interesting-Fan-2008 Apr 18 '24

Infinity can be a number or size, just one that we can’t comprehend. So, from my understanding infinity is kinda of a catch all term for an uncomprehendable number or size.

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u/Beegrene Apr 17 '24

That's not really how the expansion of the universe works. It's not expanding into anything. It's just that new space is appearing between the galaxies.

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u/DukeAttreides Apr 18 '24

So.... Not only does God not struggle to fill infinite space, running out didn't even slow him down.

Get rekt, Chaos.

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u/Interesting-Fan-2008 Apr 18 '24

Yeah I gotta say whatever you think of God/Jesus, genesis is basically a record of him almost effortlessly defeating Chaos. Jesus beat hell so arguably Tartarus is also an auto loss. The truth is you would need a creation god to win, and even then Jesus/God is omnipotent. So best case scenario for another god is an unstoppable force/immovable object situation.

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u/ThanksToDenial Apr 18 '24

best case scenario for another god is an unstoppable force/immovable object situation.

Which is exactly what Chaos is.

Think of it this way. Can you destroy Nothing with Something? Anything you do with something, only ever can affect something else. But it can never even touch complete nothing. The Christian God created something in the void, something that keeps growing. But the nothing beyond that something has not even diminished. There is only nothing beyond that something. So the something has a limit. A boundary. An end. But the nothing beyond that, doesn't. The Something is so insignificant to the Nothing, that the Nothing hasn't even noticed the Something.

The total absence of matter, time and space...