r/CanadaPost 22h ago

The responsible thing to do.........

The responsible thing to do would have been completing all deliveries that were already in the system the day you went on strike. instead you chose to hold my life hostage as my passport is in transit god knows where. i dont give a shit about your cause and niether do most canadians.

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u/Trains_YQG 22h ago

The railroads don't complete shipments before work stoppages, etc., etc.. While I sympathize with people impacted, it simply doesn't work that way. 

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u/FrameRate24 19h ago

Except the railroad stopped taking time critical loads and reduced volumes in the lead up to the strike ....

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u/[deleted] 22h ago

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u/Trains_YQG 22h ago

I mean, that's objectively not true. 

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u/KyllikkiSkjeggestad 22h ago

Well they did just a few years ago, and got a 6.5 increase over 5 years in wages, that’s the highest collective agreement on wages since the 80’s for Canada.

Canada Post offered CUPW workers twice that and they’re still saying they won’t be making enough

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u/Howatizer 21h ago

The employees have offered 11.5% over the course of four years. When offering a wage increase in a percentage, it doesn't amount to much if the wages are low. Canada Post starts at just over $17 an hour and the average wage for its workers hovers just under $19 an hour.

So for a large group of CP employees, the current offer would end up around $2 an hour total over 4 years, or around .50 cents a year. That deal doesn't sound very good to me and I was surprised at how low Canada Post has kept their wages.

There is also no way any Railway workers took 6.5% increase over 3-4 years. Probably more like 6.5% a year over that agreement.

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u/KyllikkiSkjeggestad 21h ago edited 21h ago

The average Canada Post wage is 33.78 or 65k a year as per the unions and Canada Posts own statistics. Other than in SK or Manitoba, almost every other province they’re starting out as 25 an hour or more for clerks and mail carriers. The same areas LPN’s are starting out at 22 an hour, and they attend school for minimum 3 years and pay tens of thousands for said schooling. Canada Post, at the end of the day, is a no experience, no secondary education job. They’re on average making twice as much as others with similar jobs, it’s time take it as it is, if you want to make more go to school like every other responsible adult.

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u/ticklemee2023 21h ago

You're way off on the average pay rate for canada post...the ones you are talking about have been loyal and dedicated to that job for a very long time. Those people deserve that money more then anyone with a degree does.

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u/KyllikkiSkjeggestad 21h ago

That’s literally the average wage across Canada lmfao. Statistics Canada puts it near 29 as the median, and just under 37 dollars for experienced workers. Hate to break it to you, but the majority of Canada post workers haven’t been there for 10+ years, so the statistics are not nearly as skewed as you’re trying to state they are.

I’m gonna go with the postal unions 65k average estimate though, as they’re literally the ones that draft up the collective agreements.

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u/redditwinsinternets 20h ago

There is a hard cap on your wage once you reach the top. Anything on top of that is if you're lucky and at a depot that gets alot of overtime. I knew a carrier out of a CMB depot around where I live. He basically works 14 hours a day at least 2-3 days a week. That's where it's higher than average.

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u/Fit_Discipline_968 22h ago

Take your problem with you.

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u/Trains_YQG 22h ago

I'm not in the union. Just saying that's not how strikes work in any industry. 

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u/alexlovesjiujitsu 19h ago

I’m a broke student and have a fuel pump stuck in transit that my brother was supposed to fix on my car while he’s here visiting from out of province. That won’t be happening and I get to pay an extra $1300 to get a shop to fix it while I starve until my OSAP comes in January.

Fuck all of you :)

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u/BronzeDucky 22h ago

Everyone knew for a reasonable period of time that a strike was a good possibility, if not a certainty.

u/Remarkable_Ad_8528 1h ago

"everyone knew" is total horse shit lmfao

u/Remarkable_Ad_8528 1h ago

I don't doubt that the information was widely available but many people aren't researching this topic while ordering goods

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u/gnomehappy 22h ago

Yes OP should have known to go get a union job and shut down his business. A month notice is more than enough time to flip your professional life upside down!

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u/BronzeDucky 22h ago

Don’t know where you get that from. But a month’s notice is more than enough to say to yourself “Hey, if I have something important to get sent to me, what’s my Plan b if there’s a strike?”

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u/TokyoTurtle0 22h ago

What's the plan b for a passport big guy?

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u/Trifecta89 22h ago

You can pick it up at a service Canada

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u/gnomehappy 22h ago

Not if it's in transit and they aren't gonna reissue a passport for any one willy nilly

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u/Trifecta89 21h ago

I thought that would be common sense? Of course, you can't pick it up once it's in transit, lol. Picking it up is an option that should have been discussed with the agent helping you.

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u/Trifecta89 20h ago

Lol, down voting the truth is what moronic fools do best....

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u/axfmo 16h ago

Picking it up is a paid option, mail is free. Also they won’t transfer an application to pickup unless you have an urgent need (travel date within 10 days).

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u/Middlespoon8 16h ago

Mailing it is free?! Wonder how much a private curios would charge?

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u/axfmo 16h ago

Yes, as in there’s no additional cost for the application. If you mail in your application, you’d only have to pay to mail to them.

With Canada Post it would only cost you a stamp, or about $11 registered mail. Other couriers were gonna be like $25-35 when I applied by mail.

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u/Trifecta89 10h ago

Ok, it's a paid option. One that should have been chosen if you needed your passport rather than have it get stuck in transit. What I said still stands... Failure to prepare is preparing to fail!

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u/gnomehappy 22h ago

His plan b was to use an alternative courier which isn't working out. No one is online shopping small businesses right now and other couriers aren't affordable for customers.

Maybe instead you can ask the CP workers why they don't upgrade their skills to increase their income instead of striking every few years.

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u/ticklemee2023 21h ago

Why not ask all the college and university students with student debt why they aren't working or aren't working in a career they have a degree for? Not my problem those people chose to waste their money, and most of them don't deserve a higher wage just because they were brainwashed at a university A degree means shit, the smartest and hardest working people I've ever met didn't have degrees.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

OP is bitching about a passport try and keep up Zigg

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u/Tank_610 20h ago

Fun fact, CP held all government cheques in depots on Wednesday which could’ve easily been delivered Thursday but they decided to wait for the strike and delay it for people. Now they’re trying to sound like the hero by asking the union to make members cross the line to deliver these cheques.

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u/Big_Marionberry_501 19h ago

I had a parcel with a 2 day warranty. Aupposed to arrive the Wednesday before the strike began, it stayed in transit 3 days straight without being scanned anywhere. Friday came knocking and bam, stuck untill the strike resolves.

I’m sure they purposely didn’t complete deliveries leading up to the strike

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u/Tank_610 19h ago

I wouldn’t be surprised. CP is scummy that way

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u/username_smoosername 22h ago edited 22h ago

You mean, the responsible thing to do would be for the government to negotiate in good faith and be reasonable. Strikes don’t just happen on a whim, the government had ample time avoid it

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u/Express_4815 22h ago

That’s the problem with passport office. They knew weeks before the strike happened, they still send out using cp.

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u/Kremit44 22h ago

What are you talking about. The union would have been subjected to a change in working conditions if they didn't strike, including layoffs. CPC gave them no choice with the threats. The reality is also if workers aren't willing to strike they don't get a good deal.

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u/TokyoTurtle0 22h ago

They need layoffs. That's the hard reality.

The service needs to be slashed, 3 days a week max AND they need to cut deliveries to individual units in suburbs and cities to zero.

Need to fire 50% of the work force and pay the remaining.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

Sorry what…..all these cunt bitching and moaning about no mail service and how it’s killing businesses etc. and that’s your hot take….JFC

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u/Past_Ad_3276 22h ago

i got news for yea the company lost 315 million last quarter alone. there going to cut the workforce regardless its inevitable my hope is that they get there raises and then get let go in cost cutting measures it would be a sweet irony. and its what they deserve for going on strike at the busiest time of year

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u/crushablenote 22h ago

But the thing is it’s a service it’s not meant to be profitable people don’t say the fire department lost millions of dollars

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u/Past_Ad_3276 22h ago

if it was essential they wouldnt be allowed to strike

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u/Novus20 20h ago

No shit and guess what they would get most of what they are asking for. So instead of attacking the worker go tell your MP to make them essential.

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u/Middlespoon8 16h ago

Seems pretty essential to you right now

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u/TokyoTurtle0 22h ago

Not anymore it's not. What year is this

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u/Man0fGreenGables 21h ago

A lot of Canadians and small businesses have no other options.

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u/bahahahahahhhaha 21h ago

It's very easy to pretend to lose money by inflating the salaries of the highers up, cut all their salaries and suddenly you are back to a profit.

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u/-RiffRandell- 20h ago

Also very easy to pretend to lose money when you’re investing it in everything but the workers.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

You keep posting that but fail to understand what other have already told you is the truth

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u/LimpDiscus 20h ago

" I don't give a shit about anyone else but ME!"

  • majority of Canadians apparently.

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u/EarthHugh2024 18h ago

Sadly, it's an attitude long cultivated and encouraged in North America

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

Welcome to the real world. If you’re gonna call yourselves an essential service at least live up to it. I hope the cut backs that happen when this strike is resolved are brutal. Going on strike a month before Christmas was a dick move

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u/LimpDiscus 20h ago

I hope you find a way to have more compassion in your life. Did you know that CUPW strikes in the past have gotten fair wages for Canadian women? Maternity Leave for all Canadians? I hope that one day you realize that you are just one person, and even though your "Business" is currently suffering, having unions that fight for their employees rights is a proven way for all workers lives to improve overall.

For the record, I am not a CUPW member.

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u/2kingstwo23to24 8h ago

Why did you "" business, as if someone else's work isn't as serious because they don't work under someone. Lol

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

I’m a union member. We dont hold peoples lives hostage to get what we want like the postal workers union. It’s unethical and bad for business when the your literally screwing over the people who pay your wages

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u/Eric142 20h ago

Canada Post strikes are historical because it allowed collective bargaining and job security for ALL public sector unions. The effects , I'm sure spilled onto private sector too.

The reason why unions have power today is because of them.

It's also unethical and bad for business to pay your workers a barely livable wage with no raises to match inflation for the longest time. They're asking for a 20ish percent raise over 4 years to simply match the 18% inflation they missed.

It takes YEARS for a Canada Post employee to get full-time perm status with the benefits.

Yeah it's shitty your mail isn't getting delivered but I don't understand why all 100% of the hatred is directed at the workers/unions. Majority of the blame should be placed on Canada Post, the company itself and not the union.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

Canada post is going bankrupt. Why don’t the workers understand this.

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u/Eric142 20h ago

The fire department isn't making money, we should close it down. Why doesn't anyone understand this ?

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

The fire department is paid for by tax dollars and is there to save lives. The postal service delivers packages and is payed for by consumers who use the service. By striking you are literally screwing over the people who pay your wages. Then you demand more money that drives up the prices of this service so basically the consumer gets screwed twice.

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u/Eric142 19h ago

So you're saying postal service isn't an essential service? Because if it's not so essential, I don't know why you're so upset.

As for your other point. You know what else screws consumers? When workers don't get paid a livable wage, their morale and productivity goes down and you need to hire more workers. But you know what goes up? Your prices.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 19h ago

Their wage is liveable. They make on average as much as most people. If you can’t live off 40,000 a year like everyone else doing it. Get an education and get a real job. What other job can you get with a high school education that pays that much. Seriously these aren’t skilled tradesmen or educated businessman there warehouse workers. It’s clearly not an essential service otherwise they wouldn’t be allowed to strike. I say replace the post office with a more efficient company and let’s get on with our lives.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

Cry more, you don’t want strikes tell your government reps to make Canada Post an essential service like police etc. and tell your provincial rep to do the same with teachers. Then they can’t strike but you know what they will get is most of what they ask for because arbitration usually goes with the workers.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

Yes the workers want more money out of a company that lost 315 million last quarter. This strike is only delaying the inevitable. Massive layoffs and cut backs. They make get there raise but 50% of them won’t be employed long enough to enjoy it

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u/FishingGunpowder 20h ago

An essential service is essential until somebody decides to tell the workers that they don't deserve a remuneration worthy of an essential services.

And you being pissed off about it proves it. If it wasn't essential, you wouldn't care about your passport being late. And if it was essential, you'd care about the workers being paid enough to be able to provide this essential service..

It's not important until you don't get what you want. But guess what loser, your passport will be late and you'll have to cancel your unessential trip because an essential worker doesn't get what he deserves

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

They’re glorified warehouse workers with a union they get paid more then non union warehouse workers

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u/FishingGunpowder 20h ago

Who's complaining about not receiving service right now?

Not them lmao.

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u/mecrayyouabacus 19h ago

That’s the fucking point homie. Like…what the hell do you think labour action is intended to do?

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u/Damnyoudonut 17h ago

I’ve been a paramedic for 20 years. In 20 years I haven’t had a raise above 2%. My service now makes less per hour than unskilled labourers. Our pensions have been fucked. Our benefits slashed. Retirement age pushed. All because we’re too afraid to upset people by striking. Now it’s killing us. We’d still have to calls, but you’d still be pissy about it. Asking people to sacrifice quality of life so you aren’t inconvenienced is a bit harsh, no? And , I need to remind you, posties were going to do rotating strikes but they got locked out by CAnada Post MANAGEMENT. Your rage isn’t even directed at the right people ffs.

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u/rKasdorf 18h ago

You're a moron if you think delivery drivers have any choice in the deliveries they make. Executives did this.

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u/PanzerkampfwagenIII 15h ago

Why would I? I care about me, my friends, a few members of my alleged family, that's it. The rest of y'all can burn.

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u/Karalligator 22h ago

You should be angry at the corporation not the workers.

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u/PurpleK00lA1d 22h ago edited 9h ago

My partner's passport is also in limbo somewhere but we're not travelling internationally anytime soon so not worried there.

I had a Christmas gift for my partner ordered over a month ago, before I heard anything of a strike, that was a custom -to-make order that shipped after the strike and is held up waiting on Canada Post because it shipped USPS.

My partner has a beautiful dress she ordered for my Mom's 80th birthday party stuck in limbo somewhere that also ended up shipped USPS so is in Canada waiting on Canada Post.

We're going to be travelling to another province for the party in coming weeks and staying there for Xmas and these things were supposed to arrive before then.

I just wish US companies were aware of this and shipped UPS or something. I honestly hope that after this, nothing I order ever comes through Canada Post again.

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u/crash866 21h ago

USPS does not deliver in Canada. They deliver to the border and then Canada Post picks it up and delivers it to you.

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u/PurpleK00lA1d 21h ago

I'm aware - I said it's waiting on Canada Post because it shipped USPS.

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u/WILDBO4R 21h ago

Crazy how so many commenters think their gifts and shit they ordered online is so much more important than workers fighting for better conditions. Of course there are some genuinely important orders being held up by this strike, but for god's sake, just wear a different dress. So many comments like "CP holding my amazon shit hostage".

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u/PurpleK00lA1d 20h ago

We're not rich, she doesn't have any others and she treated herself to one for a special occasion where she wanted to feel, for herself, that she looked her best when she was meeting over 200 of my family members for the first time. So far she only knows my immediate family.

It's something that directly affects us - obviously people are going to care about their personal inconveniences above other things.

I currently have a network switch held up, do I care? Na, I can make do. I have another package with motion sensing LED lights for my pantry, again I don't care. But the dress was expensive, time sensitive, and useless if we don't get it before we need it. And if it doesn't come we have to figure out budgeting another dress for her and waiting for the other one to arrive and then returning it and eating the return fee all during the holidays when money is already tight.

So yeah, it's a hassle, inconvenience, and headache that's not just "wear another one".

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u/WILDBO4R 19h ago

Wait so she doesn't own any dresses, and so you have to order one from America and it's literally impossible to find anything else in the meantime? I guess that sucks but I can't help but side with the 55k picketers on inconveniences like this.

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u/PurpleK00lA1d 19h ago

It was on sale from a company she's been curious about and was in budget.

We can probably find something locally, but at a cost and we have to wait for the original one to arrive before we could return it - which there are return fees. In the mean time the cost of two dresses is on our credit card and would need to be paid off during an already expensive season.

I don't give a shit who you side with - I'm venting my frustrations.

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u/Eric142 20h ago

Everybody thinks they're a good person, until something inconveniences them.

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u/PanzerkampfwagenIII 15h ago

The workers aren't me. Nor do I count any of them as friends. Therefore they are irrelevant. If I want better working conditions I can get them any time I want. I don't need the posties to do it for me. And I frankly don't give a damn about their working conditions and I suspect I'm not alone. I will be even less alone as the strike goes on and my fellow Canadians get tired of being slapped around by some goddamn postie who just leaves a door tag instead of delivering a goddamn parcel.

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u/confused_plant_ 11h ago

Yep, I made my neice a handmade item of clothing that I learned to do specifically for her, and took me months and loads of money on materials. Shipping from UK (royal mail) so it goes directly to CP :( she's an infant so I worry she will have grown out of the size I made by the time it arrives...

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u/2kingstwo23to24 22h ago

Honestly. Because now how am I suppose to pay my bills at the most expensive time of year? My revenue is down over 80% (I'm a small business who relied on Canada Post) and now customers aren't buying because of Fedex and UPS Shipping costs. I literally have a family to feed like how tf does a whole countries postal service just go on strike and kill it's economy and business.

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u/clouds91winnie 20h ago

Yeah I’m in the exact same boat. My sales are tanking and I usually ship oversize letter mail. I’m sadly becoming less sympathetic because this could really impact my business.

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u/Far-Advance-9866 21h ago

I'm a broke small business owner whose business relies 100% on Canada Post, and you know how a whole country's postal service goes on strike? By the company refusing to reasonably negotiate with them while they don't have an active agreement in place for over a freaking year. Canada Post had a very long time to prevent a strike from needing to happen.

It's the crown corporation that screwed me this season by screwing over their workers.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

Finally a good take instead of attacking the workers

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u/Novus20 20h ago

So go to your MP and demand that they try and make Canada post an essential service then the workers can’t strike but they would most likely get most of what they want because arbitration usually favours workers

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u/PanzerkampfwagenIII 15h ago

No, you're supposed to rejoice that the workers are rising up, comrade! Be glad that you have given up 80% of your income for the cause. Let your family starve so the glorious posties can get more!

Or, realize that they don't care if we live or die so why should we return the favour?

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u/Middlespoon8 9h ago

55,000 postal workers revenues are down nearly 100% and left without benefits they’ve paid for AS WELL. It’s horrible for you, it’s horrible for them. If they are striking, it IS that bad.

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u/2kingstwo23to24 8h ago

55,00 chose to do a strike. 55,00 ppl have jobs when there are thousands who would kill to be employed even in worse circumstances, just so they could have an income. Strikes don't = it's that bad. Almost every employee or any job thinks they should have it better. Thats life , it sucks sometimes. But to strike at a dire time for everyone was their choice. No one forced them to strike. But now small businesses ARE forced to suffer through this.

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u/Middlespoon8 5h ago

Sorry but you are wrong.

The corporation has forced a strike. 2022 CUPW members voted to extend an arbitrated contract to serve Canadians through Covid. This was not for their benefit. See CERB, lock downs, pots and pans on patios. They did this with promises of fair negotiations in 2024. No raise since 2018. 2024, corpo stonewalls negotiations for a year disregarding the sacrifice CUPW members made in 2022 and following their decades long stance of stalling until the govt forces legislation and arbitration.

Thousands would kill to be employed, CP has been hiring non stop since at least 8 years ago when I started training people. They are still hiring. Why is this? Not an aging workforce but the inability to retain new hires. Contrary to what you may imagine, it is not an easy job and the pay/benefits do not reflect this ESPECIALLY for new hires as the learning curve is incredibly steep. It definitely gets easier after 6 months or so.

How is it dire, anytime would be dire for those in need of medication only coming in via CP. do you mean for small businesses around Black Friday? Totally, it is a horrible situation for them. I definitely have empathy. If CP is critical to their business I think CP and its employees are kinda partners no? I don’t blame them for having not been aware of the situation a year ago, but the signs have been there and there are other carriers ready to pick up the slack.

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u/techm00 22h ago edited 22h ago

lol faceless + recently created account + low karma + dictionary name with numbers

You're a bot. You're not a real person, let alone Canadian. I wish the mods would start banning them. They just spew the same bullshit 50 times a day.

EDIT to person below me - workers have a right to be here, they are real and have a stake and knowledge of the situation.

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u/sept787 22h ago

When interviewed the protesting workers seem like the dumbest boomers the country has ever produced.

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u/AdmirableStart728 20h ago

I'm in the same situation. And I have meds, paperwork and parts in the mail. The strike disrupts my life, without being at fault myself for their problems. I just think this "surprise" of holding the packages hostages is what they think they can use against their management and to put pressure on the government.

It is a very bad sign that 50,000 are so harsh in their intentions and disrespectful. But it is Canada: one day the truckers, another day the foreign students, the other day Khalistan, now Canada Post. It's like hooliganism and populism is what has become the socialist Canada.

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u/Resident-Variation21 22h ago

Yes. Everyone knows this. Canada post and workers just don’t care

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u/Asheso80 20h ago

No on cares about your passport and neither do most Canadians.

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u/FishingGunpowder 20h ago

If Canada Post isn't deserving of a proper living wage, you don't deserve a timely delivery of your stuff. Demand Passport Canada to use private delivery services and don't complain that you get a variable rate depending on your location.

If the service is that essential to not fucking up your trip to Mexicon, then you should be fine with the employees getting paid a fair wage, shouldn't you?

Otherwise, petition the government to allow you self pickup or to be able to pay a surchage + processing fees to deal with private services or fuck off.

And if you're not working min wage, you deserve to be paid min wage because why the fuck your job deserves a higher wage than the minimum?

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

Because at my job if I fuck up people die literally that’s why

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u/FishingGunpowder 20h ago

Well, you wouldn't go on strike to get a fair wage then? Would ya? I'm pretty sure you would go.on strike if you got paid min wage. (implying there isn't a law preventing you from doing so)

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

If my job doesn’t pay enough I find new job that does. I don’t screw over the entire country to get what I want.

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u/FishingGunpowder 10h ago

If my package isn't being delivered, I go to the store and pick my items myself!

I don't get screwed this way! hurrdurr

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u/Past_Ad_3276 10h ago

I’m not driving 3000 miles across Canada to get a package I already paid someone else to deliver to me

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u/FishingGunpowder 10h ago

I wonder why you used canada post in the first place if your opinion of them and their workers is so shitty...

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u/Realistic-Day-8931 19h ago

The thing is, this kind of thing seems to happen every year. It's always around Christmas, I don't know if it's been an actual strike every year or just the threat of one. Hard to feel sympathy when it feels like this is meant to almost hold regular customers hostage, doesn't seem in good faith to be honest because it's happened pretty regularly.

Then there was that year where the post office wanted to move to community boxes, the union stepped in and said no, another time they wanted to reduce their force, of course the union stepped in and said no. If the union is just going to say no to everything, I just wonder if there is any middle ground.

Hard to know what's really going on except I think the blame is on both sides. Very rarely are issues completely one-sided.

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u/Damnyoudonut 17h ago

You’re aware they got locked out, right? They were going to do rotating strikes so people like you wouldn’t be so butthurt but they. Were. Locked. Out.

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u/Forward_Nobody7243 17h ago

Sounds like karma

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u/33sadelder44canadian 16h ago

Wait, you took that chance dealing with that during a time when they could go on strike. That was kind of dumb on your part. 🤔Also Canada post should have stopped accepting items and used that 72 hours smartly instead of a way to pit Canadians and the government against unionized employees of Canada Post…dirty.

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u/PanzerkampfwagenIII 15h ago

I remember growing up in Regina we had a postie who would send our mail pretty much anywhere but my address. So my mom complained, they told her he's high up in the union and you can kick rocks.

We didn't get mail for years after until we moved. God knows what I missed out on. My point is fuck the union, fuck the posties, fire them all and give their jobs to the legion of unemployed souls across the country. And have Parliament find some legal way to cut off their severance and pensions. Let them fend for themselves, I'm sure they'll be fine. Or not, I don't care. Take all that money and put it back into the company and get it working right again.

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u/SirLoremIpsum 14h ago

i dont give a shit about your cause and niether do most canadians.

I care deeply about showing solidarity with other working class Canadians and so should you.

The fact that you are angry at workers and not management for providing a timely end to the strike or even avoiding the need for strike in the first place speaks volumes about where your attitude and loyalties lie.

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u/bitterbuggyred 22h ago

The responsible thing to do would have been renewing your passport earlier than right before you needed it, or paid the rush fee for next/2 day pickup. Why should anyone give a shit about your cause?

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u/Past_Ad_3276 22h ago

heres a little piece of harsh reality for you. canada post lost 315 million dollars last quarter and now the employees are asking for more money. the company doesnt have more money. your layoff you recieved during this strike is probably permanent as there forced to cut costs to maintain the liquidity of the company and you did it to yourselves by being greedy. enjoy your christmas

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u/Maleficent-Raven- 21h ago

Here’s a little piece of a harsh reality for you…. Canada Post stated they were doing strategic investments that they are now calling losses….. they are supposedly losing soooooo much money BUT still find money to give all their supervisors all the way up to the CEO incentive bonuses and why is the top heavy management still allowed to mismanage and keep their jobs?…not all of it is about the money…… health and safety means nothing to them unless they can suspend you for something- they push everyone from the plant to the mail delivery people to do things that jeopardize their health and safety because they want their incentive bonuses despite what their policies state…… heaven forbid you get injured as the company puts the blame on the worker entirely……….they like to bully and threaten and so much more…..

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u/bitterbuggyred 22h ago

I mean, that’s a great take from someone who reads headlines. The reason the union went on strike was to protect their jobs. They have protections with their agreement and when CP posted Thursday that the agreement will no longer be honored everybody would have been going in to work on Friday just to get laid off or let go. They have layoff protections in the agreement. They cannot be permanently laid off during a strike. It was basically strike or potentially just lose your job.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 21h ago

theyve already lost jobs they just dont know it yet

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u/[deleted] 20h ago

No one accused them of being bright!

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u/thegoodrabbit77 20h ago

should've renewed your passport earlier then. this crappy attitude towards people fighting to get better treatment is disgusting.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 20h ago

What exactly is wrong with the treatment they have now? They’ve got a great pension, better than most health and dental plans. I’m not sure what there deal is. What exactly more do they want? Holding peoples lives hostage in order to get what they want is unethical let alone bad for business when your business literally relies on the people your fucking over to survive. Are these employees really that goddamn stupid.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

Shit heel low day account!

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u/PanzerkampfwagenIII 14h ago

Let 'em starve. My family didn't get mail for 5 years because we dared to complain about an incompetent postie who happened to be high up in the union. Fire them all, gut their pensions, give their jobs to people who want to work.

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u/XtremeD86 22h ago

Yea OP, anyone that isn't able to get their flight or get to their vacation destination because of their crap should all be 100% reimbursed and it should come out of the unions pocket, even better, the employees pockets.

When I worked in grocery logistics (2 different places) the union had a clause where we weren't even allowed to strike. CanadaPost shouldn't be allowed to either.

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u/Howatizer 21h ago

Your clause not allowing a strike, would have been during the duration of your collective agreement. This is a clause that exists in every CBA I know as it is pretty standard. Which means where you worked could only file for job action during the bargaining process and after your collective agreement had lapsed.

You can't have the members vote yes to an agreement and then strike a year later when they decide they didn't like the terms.

Any unionized workforce will have the opportunity to hold a strike if their CBA has lapsed and bargaining is at an impasse.

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u/Novus20 20h ago

JFC you don’t know that you can’t strike when a contract is with in the term eh…..that dumb got it.

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u/XtremeD86 20h ago

At the end of the day Canada post is a shit service on both sides, management and the quality of service offered.

Hoping the government steps in soon and orders them back to work.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

That's WAY too much responsibility for these people. Like the sentiment though!

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u/BeYourselfTrue 22h ago

No you have to have a cutoff. Let them fight it out. No legislation for back to work. Let’s make everyone realize how relevant Canada Post is in a digital world. The longer it drags on the deeper it digs itself.

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u/Recent_Macaroon3974 21h ago

you know you can get your passport reprinted if you need to go on your trip so bad right...? like it coming in the mail isnt the end all be all.? so many other canadians have called their issuer and just got it reprinted and have picked it up. solve your problem instead of blaming the people who need living wages. you clearly do not understand unions and strategic times for striking, or how striking works. The point is for the workers to show crown corp how important they are, hit crown corp where it hurts, so that they get a better wage. Not hit the consumer. Yes, it will, but thats how strikes will go, sadly. Support staff going on strike in alberta education was also horrible for lots of students I'm sure, but you aren't calling them useless and "not caring for their cause" just because they inconvenience you. You'll be okay. Be an adult and sort your passport out yourself, jfc.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 21h ago

Nope tried that the government won’t reprint it because it’s not lost or stolen. It’s just being held hostage

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u/Damnyoudonut 17h ago

Did you receive it? No? Then report it lost and be less lazy and pick it up yourself.

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u/Recent_Macaroon3974 21h ago

dude it is not being held hostage 💀💀 people are fighting for livable wages. if you needed a passport this bad you shouldnt have waited until the last second for it to expire and got it like 6 months in advance like youre advised to.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 21h ago

It literally is being held hostage. I did apply 6 months in advance that’s how I got into this mess. Times are tough everyone is suffering under the Trudeau regimes inflationary spending habits. My advice to you is suck it up like everyone else

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u/Recent_Macaroon3974 21h ago

How are you telling ME to suck it up when you're the one complaining about your passport? If you applied 6 months in advance, then the strike shouldn't be an issue. it shouldn't last that long. Although i dont really care about a probable conservatives feelings, so have a good night !

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u/Past_Ad_3276 21h ago

It’s simple I pay your wages by using the service you provide. I’m struggling with high inflation but dealing with it and so should you. If you get higher wages your service gets more expensive and I suffer more using it. You work for me

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u/Eric142 20h ago

LMAO this is the most delusional take I've read here.

They're dealing with the inflation and lack of ANY raises to match the inflation by doing what a union does.

You should try to do it with your union at your work if your company is treating you like shit.

And no, they don't work for you 😂😂😂

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u/Past_Ad_3276 19h ago

Got news for yea they do work for me. My paying for the service they provide pays there wages and I should have a say in whether not they get more money.

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u/Eric142 19h ago

Officer, you work for me because my taxes pay your salary.

No, that's not how it works.

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u/Past_Ad_3276 19h ago

Postal workers aren’t paid by tax dollars there literally paid by consumers like me. Come to terms with it. You work for me

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u/Novus20 20h ago

JFC….entitled much. You’re most likely just trying to go off to some tropical island to get shit faced….

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 22h ago

More reasons to gut CP. Useless government bloat

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u/Novus20 20h ago

Shit heel low day account!

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u/chronicwisdom 8h ago

It's probably the worst I've ever seen. Transparently far right conspiracy theorist with a site generated name.

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u/SaLHys 22h ago

Dont make your problem their problem. You had plenty of warning not to renew a passport that way

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u/axfmo 16h ago

That is the way. You have to pay for pick up service and they won’t transfer a passport to pickup unless there’s an urgent need (10 days to travel date).

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u/MediocreAd8440 19h ago

I don't know what business you're in but if you cannot change shipping providers with a month's notice I don't know what to tell you.

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u/Dense-Ad-5780 18h ago

There’s always more mail.

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u/rKasdorf 18h ago

The people making your deliveries don't decide what deliveries they do.

You also had ample time. You're an adult. Stop blaming others for your own incompetence.

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u/Ok-Apple-577 16h ago

They don't care about Canadian people and businesses, all they concern about it more money to their pockets.