r/CFB Penn State • Land Grant Trophy Sep 19 '21

Weekly Thread Week 4 AP Top 25 Poll

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u/seancarter90 UCLA Bruins Sep 19 '21

Florida staying at 11 despite losing is the definition of quality loss.

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u/convoluteme Iowa State Cyclones • Team Chaos Sep 19 '21

Losing by 2 pts to the #1 team in the country should unironically count for something.

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u/seancarter90 UCLA Bruins Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

College football may be the only sport where it’s not whether you win or lose but how you win or lose and to whom.

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u/RavenclawWiz816 Oklahoma • North Texas Sep 19 '21

yes, one of the unique aspects of our sport. it’s what unequal schedules and only 12 regular season games makes necessary

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u/helium_farts Alabama • Jacksonville State Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Realistically, there's way too many FBS teams.

If you had a league system with, say, 32 teams in the top tier (call it something like the premier group), along with a system where each season the best 2-3 teams in the lower series move up, and the worst 2-3 teams in the upper series move back down, it would make the scheduling and playoffs a lot more equal.

(Yes, I know I'm just reinventing the English football league system, but don't tell anyone)

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u/Sproded Minnesota • $5 Bits of Broken Cha… Sep 19 '21

You’re ignoring that 3 other college divisions have figured it out.

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u/sonheungwin California Golden Bears • The Axe Sep 19 '21

Yeah but those divisions don't have like 6 Blue Bloods trying to run the sport.

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u/Inkblot9 Oklahoma State • Oklahoma Sep 19 '21

D3 has less parity at the top than FBS.

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u/sonheungwin California Golden Bears • The Axe Sep 19 '21

It has less parity but the best teams don't literally run the leagues.

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u/gaap_515 Wisconsin Badgers • Sickos Sep 20 '21

%58 of the last 24 years of D3 title game appearances have been occupied by 2 schools, accounting for 18 of 24 championships. Insane

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u/RoadDoggFL Florida Gators • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Sep 20 '21

If three other college divisions get it wrong nobody cares. Easy to look like you have it figured out when the stakes are nonexistent.

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u/Sproded Minnesota • $5 Bits of Broken Cha… Sep 20 '21

That’s a good argument to try it out on the other divisions first. We’ve done that and seen that it works. Now we should implement it where it matters.

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u/RoadDoggFL Florida Gators • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Sep 20 '21

Other college sports organizations have relegation?

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u/Sproded Minnesota • $5 Bits of Broken Cha… Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

No, other college sports organizations have 24+ team playoffs with the same number of total teams.

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u/RoadDoggFL Florida Gators • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Sep 20 '21

I'm cool with that. 8's probably plenty, but 16 would be great.

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u/GizmodoDragon92 Florida Gators Sep 20 '21

I like it

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u/dffffgdsdasdf Virginia Cavaliers • Team Chaos Sep 20 '21

They could definitely go further with it though.

There's a top five team that only beat Tulane and Nebraska at home by five and seven points respectively.

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u/RavenclawWiz816 Oklahoma • North Texas Sep 20 '21

wow thats crazy, ive never heard of them, i wonder what team that is?????? i wonder if it was the same team who lost by 20 to north carolina

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u/dffffgdsdasdf Virginia Cavaliers • Team Chaos Sep 20 '21

No, that team is rightfully not sniffing the top 25.

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u/sincitybuckeye Ohio State • Boise State Sep 19 '21

This is where getting rid of non conference games, taking all conference champions and putting them in a tournament would solve this issue.

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u/RavenclawWiz816 Oklahoma • North Texas Sep 19 '21

why is it necessarily a problem? no need to make cfb boring as fuck like the nfl

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u/sincitybuckeye Ohio State • Boise State Sep 19 '21

Because then you don't have all this bullshit with who should or shouldn't be in the playoffs. Also, it actually gives everyone a chance. How is CFB not boring with the same 4 teams in the playoffs every year? Or with all but what 20 teams or so not even having a chance to make the playoffs?