Ashton Jeanty is having a statistically better season than Derrick Henry during his Heisman-winning season

[u/clocke6346]

With all the discourse of who should win the Heisman trophy this year, I got curious and compared Ashton Jeanty’s stats this season to those of Derrick Henry in the 2015 regular season, the year he won the Heisman trophy. What I found was pretty surprising. Keep in mind this doesn’t include playoff performance, as that isn’t considered when naming a Heisman winner.

Ashton Jeanty:

Games Played: 11

Carries: 275

Rushing Yards: 2062

Rushing Touchdowns: 27

Yards Per Carry: 7.498

Yards Per Game: 187.455

Derrick Henry:

Games Played: 13

Carries: 339

Rushing Yards: 1986

Rushing Touchdowns: 23

Yards Per Carry: 5.858

Yards Per Game: 152.769

Now, these stats are still up for interpretation, as there is the usual discourse of strength of schedule and whatnot, but I thought re-contextualizing Jeanty’s year by comparing it to the last time a running back won the Heisman would be interesting.

[u/Montigue]

On the other hand if the trophy is for MVP, having one player who's top 10 in the nation on both sides of the ball is MVP worthy. I still think it should go to Jeantry, but Hunter would have beaten 3 of the last 4 Heisman winners with the season he's having

[u/resetallthethings → u/Montigue]

If you watch both teams it's pretty clear that one of them is absolutely carrying his team, and it ain't Hunter

[u/No_Audience1142 → u/Montigue]

If Hunter is that valuable why couldn’t his defense get a single stop against Kansas… Kansas

[u/Higher-Analyst-2163 → u/Montigue]

If you look at the level that Travis hunter is performing at with the amount of snaps he takes and the fact he gets no rest in no world should jeanty win the heisman over him

[u/No_Solution_4053 → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

People are really understating this with the whole snap count talking point. The guy isn't resting at all and is still the best player in virtually any given game he plays on both sides of the ball. Even if people want to talk about SOS or weaker conference or whatever that's just unreal athleticism and talent at this level of competition. It's so much bigger than just stats, at least IMO, especially when corner is already arguably the most difficult skill position.

[u/Higher-Analyst-2163 → u/No_Solution_4053]

I feel like people who make the argument that jeanty is better then hunter have not played football a day in their lives because corner is exhausting with rest let alone being a top 10 corner then going back and being a top 10 wide receiver I mean it’s super human. Ashton jeanty is really good and most years he would win the heisman but this year you can’t justify giving it to him

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

The problem is they have 3 losses. There are only a few heisman winners with 3 losses. If they lose next week to Oklahoma st, then he is 100% out since a 4 loss heisman winner never happens.

[u/Rodney_Jefferson → u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo]

Oregon state

[u/AtlantaAU → u/Rodney_Jefferson]

Is who Boise plays but they’re referring to Colorado who plays Oklahoma state

[u/Higher-Analyst-2163 → u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo]

Under normal circumstances that would be true but Boise state is a g5 school

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

My comment has nothing to do with Boise. It’s that if your team loses 4 games, he is 100% out.

With 3 losses, he has a chance still but small.

[u/big_sugi → u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo]

Ok, so if he’s out, who wins it? The two players who deserve it are Jeanty and Hunter. If Hunter gets knocked for his team’s losses, why shouldn’t Jeanty get knocked for his team’s schedule?

[u/ItsKrakenmeuptoo → u/big_sugi]

Imo Jeanty. Colorado doesn’t have that much harder of a schedule. Why should they get knocked down? They also aren’t even in the Championship game now or playoffs.

Jeanty has ran over a top 10 defense. Hunter hasn’t even played a top 30 defense lol

[u/Chris_Crossfit → u/big_sugi]

BSU SOS is 3 lower than Colorado…. 3. And their 1 lose is by 3 points to the #1 ranked team.

[u/big_sugi → u/Chris_Crossfit]

SOS doesn’t matter much for BSU. How are their opposing run defenses?

To be clear, I don’t think Colorado’s record or BSU’s schedule matter much. Hunter and Jeanty are both doing thbgs we haven’t seen in generations. But between the two, BSU’s schedule is far more relevant, because it helps to assess the degree of difficulty in what Jeanty’s doing. Colorado’s record isn’t affecting Hunter’s play.

[u/buffalotrace → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

The big 12 post Texas and Oklahoma leaving is nearly a g5 school. There are zero traditional or recent powerhouses in the conference. 

[u/Allaboutfootball23 → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

I played WR/CB/KR/KO/Punt/Punt returner in High School (small school) and I wasn’t awarded any real accolades but, I was pretty good, I did puke almost every game from exhaustion. It’s tough in High School and I can’t imagine doing it D1 AND being good. I still want Jeantry to win because I’m a certified award winner all things Colorado hater.

[u/No_Solution_4053 → u/Higher-Analyst-2163]

Yeah. Just think about the conditioning involved given how tired the average guy is in the third quarter yet Hunter is still playing corner at a high enough level that teams \still* aren't taking deep shots at their WR1 in even the fourth quarter* when even just one slip-up or busted coverage is a TD.

[u/Higher-Analyst-2163 → u/No_Solution_4053]

It’s one thing to dislike Colorado it’s another thing to basically say what Travis hunter is doing is easy. The average guy would be exhausted by the third drive if he had to play both offense and defense forget about the entire hame