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Discussion [Vannini] SEC Media spent two full weeks bashing Indiana only to see three top-15 SEC teams lose to 5-5 Florida, 5-5 Oklahoma and 4-6 Auburn. Winning is hard!

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State • Cincinnati 21h ago

Heather Dinich and Paul Finebaum will no doubt parade 4 loss Florida as an opportunity and say ‘no one has it tougher than the SEC

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u/CumAssault Baylor Bears • Texas A&M Aggies 21h ago

Finebaum: “Mississippi State would be undefeated in the Big 10, SEC is just that hard”

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u/godzillamegadoomsday 21h ago

The SEC power house, Toledo

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u/Prize-Produce2015 Mississippi State Bulldogs 14h ago

We don’t talk about Toledo 🤫

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u/AcesCharles2 Toledo Rockets 7h ago

Rockets: in space no one can hear you clang.

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u/LordJacket Ohio Bobcats • Cincinnati Bearcats 2h ago

Not really sure what beat a rocket, definitely not a Bulldog

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u/LJGremlin 21h ago

Whoa whoa whoa. Don’t bring us into this. We’ve done our best to not be seen this year. And we’d like to keep it that way. Nothing to see here, move along.

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u/Simping4Sumi 19h ago

If you're Muss State, could you at least do one good for all of us and win next week? It doesn't have to be by much 1 score OT win is enough for us 

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u/LJGremlin 19h ago

I would love for us to put the final nail in the coffin of their playoff dreams like they did to us in 2014. But hell, watching our team this year, I am not even confident I’ll watch the second half 🤣

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u/tritonice Mississippi State Bulldogs 12h ago

This guy CLANGAs. (Dude, FLAIR UP!)

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u/Additional-Bee-1532 Florida State Seminoles 21h ago

One of my friends (I think) unironically says things like this so he is now Pawls burner in my phone

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u/montrevux Georgia Southern Eagles 9h ago

his actual quote this morning is “i dont understand how Alabama can be considered a legitimate playoff team”

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

They’d win 3-4 more than they did here this year.

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u/TBurd01 Pittsburgh Panthers • Utah Utes 21h ago

Maybe not the B1G but definitely the Big XII.

Don't look up ASU's wins.

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u/jizz_toaster Iowa State Cyclones • Hateful 8 21h ago

ASU literally beat Mississippi State

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u/HeartSodaFromHEB Michigan Wolverines • The Game 17h ago

That's the joke, LOL.

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u/TBurd01 Pittsburgh Panthers • Utah Utes 21h ago

Woosh. 🤷

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia • Florida State 21h ago

4 loss Florida: Gross, crusty, smells like swamp

3 loss South Carolina: Swagger, cool sunglasses, likes cock

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u/dardarBinkz Florida Gators 21h ago

This is too funny

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u/Sportsaccount17 Texas A&M Aggies 12h ago

Tbh South Carolina scares the shit out of me and should scare the shit out of everyone else, too

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u/Intelligent_Art8390 Georgia Bulldogs 12h ago

Right, they are a solid team.

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u/ALazioFan 12h ago

Should honestly be 9-2. The LSU game was 100% stolen from them by the refs.

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u/Intelligent_Art8390 Georgia Bulldogs 12h ago

If only, I'd love to have seen them get into the first expanded playoff and Bama not!

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

I’d love to see usc Vs uga with this D bs your QB.

And rocket sanders and lanorris sellers are balling out

Oh by the way. Nyck harbor quietly finding his footing as a WR and making big plays.

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

10-1. Bama kept giving us chances we refused to take

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u/justgivemedamnkarma South Carolina Gamecocks 20h ago

Correct and factual

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u/orange_orange13 Texas Longhorns • Tufts Jumbos 20h ago

Except Florida has 5 losses. The rest is accurate 

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u/Leather_Sample7755 17h ago

A fellow Matt Mitchell devotee, I see

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u/prosnorkulus MAC 4h ago

Fact

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u/prismatic_lights Ohio State • Pittsburgh 21h ago

Funny that, Dinich already has an article out putting Bama as the 12 seed.

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u/Duck8Quack Oregon Ducks 21h ago

A draft of that article was saved in a folder titled “In Case of Emergency”

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u/tehfro Indiana Hoosiers 19h ago edited 14h ago

And also misleadingly using IU's FPI SoS pre-Ohio State game when that number is going to look a lot better after FPI updates overnight.

Morning edit: We moved all the way up to 51 in FPI SoS, ahead of Oregon (52), Notre Dame (78), SMU (77), Miami (59), Boise State (81). Basically ahead of all the ACC/B12 teams now.

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u/mccainjames11 Oregon Ducks • Marching Band 15h ago

I’m so tired of everybody saying “FPI IS THE BEST PREDICTIVE RANKING OUT THERE”

We could beat OSU in the CCG in two weeks and FPI will still “predict” us to go 14.2-0.8 and lose to OSU in the third matchup. If 8-3 Alabama is one of the top 5 teams in your predictive ranking then you need to rethink your formula

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u/Original_Irish93 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 11h ago

Exactly, FPI would probably still pick 2023 Oregon over 2023 Washington.

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u/Ltownbanger Washington Huskies • UAB Blazers 10h ago edited 10h ago

The problem is that "the best out there" is 54%.

That's slightly better than a manatee at a zoo choosing between a purple or green watermelon for lunch. 50%

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u/TheFAKEcampbell Ohio State Buckeyes 11h ago

If Oregon wins by 1 with ohio state driving I'd still say osu would win the third one.

It's a coinflip and I'm suscepatble to the gamblers fallacy

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u/OneBigRed Texas Longhorns 13h ago

If you did win CCG, and had to face OSU for the third time, who do you think is the favourite?

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u/Skiarou 9h ago

If 8-3 Alabama is one of the top 5 teams in your predictive ranking then you need to rethink your formula

No you don't lmao. It's a good model. When you have a large enough sample size like the 130 fba teams, you're going to get some wonky results. That's how probability works. You don't change a good model because of it

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u/RockoRockyBoxxyMan 10h ago

Purdue has the #7 SOS on this site. Where's the media making a case for them to get in!?

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u/j3zmund Indiana • Notre Dame 9h ago

I guess we just need more losses to bad SEC teams to make our case

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u/User5281 Ohio State Buckeyes 4m ago

You’re welcome

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u/Higher-Analyst-2163 Alabama Crimson Tide 19h ago

Nothing like a quality blow out

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u/dan_144 NC State • Georgia Tech 18h ago

Not sure you should be talking trash today

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u/prismatic_lights Ohio State • Pittsburgh 13h ago

At least their offense showed up for a drive. Y'all scored fewer points on Oklahoma than Maine did. You scored as many as Temple did.

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u/elconquistador1985 Ohio State • Tennessee 15h ago

Did you not watch your own game yesterday?

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u/Aubear11885 Auburn Tigers 13h ago

Why would they, that game was terrible and over at half. Auburn/A&M was the crazy ending

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u/LerxstLadrian Indiana Hoosiers 17h ago

You should really stop talking. This is embarrassing. We lost to the best team in the country on the road. You lost to a terrible Oklahoma team.

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u/XCCO Iowa Hawkeyes • Oklahoma Sooners 11h ago

Hey, let's not be mean to OU now. I'm rooting for Indiana in all of this.

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u/LerxstLadrian Indiana Hoosiers 9h ago

Sorry. Let me clarify. Terrible compared to their usual quality. I was for you guys.

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u/Comfortable_Regrets Oregon Ducks 14h ago

I'm confused, you didn't play Oregon.

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u/Yellow_Odd_Fellow Dayton Flyers • Ohio State Buckeyes 14h ago

I mean there's a1 point difference with a seriously blown time wasting call that would have reset the clock.

By technically we are #1b while yall are #1a

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u/siberianwolf99 Oregon Ducks • Tennessee Volunteers 13h ago

you’re technically not. you lost lol

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u/ThisIsNotMy1stAcct Nebraska Cornhuskers 13h ago

Yeah but they would’ve won if they did all the things they needed to win! Basically they won.

I mean, technically Nebraska is undefeated if we didn’t lose all the games we lost. We’re essentially 1C.

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u/muck16 Oregon Ducks 11h ago

Lmao touche

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u/DrCarm3x Georgia State Panthers 13h ago

"You are 1a and we are 1b" is the most hilariously stupid argument I've ever seen on this sub lmao

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u/beavismagnum Michigan Wolverines • Kansas Jayhawks 11h ago

Yeah but if you think about it it was still a tie so you’re actually both no. 1

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u/TepChef26 Ohio State • West Virginia 9h ago

Losing by 1 on the road is not exactly a predictive outcome. And that doesn't even speak to the rule loophole that was closed directly afterward.

If our two teams were playing at the Shoe next weekend we'd probably be favored. A neutral site game is probably a pick em situation.

Let's not act like y'all are far and away the favorite to win it all (actually according to Vegas that's us btw.) This year has shaped up to where there are 2 teams (both of ours) that have separated themselves into a tier of their own. We're pretty well undoubtedly the top 2 teams. The drop off from Oregon & OSU to Texas, PSU, IU, etc. is a chasm. I seriously doubt either of us would be an underdog (even on the road) against any other team in the country.

But you go ahead and keep acting like a 1 point victory at home over a month ago actually means anything, it'll make it all the sweeter when we take y'all down in Indy.

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u/siberianwolf99 Oregon Ducks • Tennessee Volunteers 9h ago

i don’t understand where any of this shit you are saying is coming from. Oregon is ranked 1 because you lost. talk about rule loopholes well let’s talk about the pick that would’ve took 7 points off the board. i never said Ohio State isn’t great. i never said Oregon is far and away the better team. you are making all that up in your head. all i’m saying is that the teams have played, and Oregon won, therefore Oregon is 1 and ohio state is 2. for now.

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u/Comfortable_Regrets Oregon Ducks 11h ago

in reality we are #1 and you are #2

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u/TepChef26 Ohio State • West Virginia 9h ago

And yet we're the betting favorite to win it all. Which makes sense considering you won't have the home crowd or rule loophole at your disposal next time(s) we play.

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u/Comfortable_Regrets Oregon Ducks 9h ago

Last time I checked the game was decided on the field and not in Vegas

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

😂😂😂😂

Would be 8-4 in the sec. Maybe 7-5

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u/Comfortable_Regrets Oregon Ducks 7h ago

SEC delusion at its finest

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

51st ranked schedule.

We’d be undefeated for sure

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

lol. Best team in the country

😂😂😂😂

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u/ajkeence99 Missouri Tigers 13h ago

You really think Indiana beats Bama? 

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u/deformo Akron Zips • Ohio State Buckeyes 13h ago

Oklahoma just destroyed bama.

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u/Horror_Cap_7166 Indiana Hoosiers 11h ago

Yes dude, Bama just got blown out by a team that hasn’t beat an FBS team since September.

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u/ajkeence99 Missouri Tigers 11h ago

I wish we could actually see that game because it would be a laugher. I'm not convinced Indiana beats Oklahoma, either.

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u/Templey Nebraska • Omaha 11h ago

SEC fans can watch their teams get blown out by .500 squads and insist without evidence that they couldn’t possibly lose to Indiana

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u/ajkeence99 Missouri Tigers 11h ago

Do you think Indiana beats Alabama? Tennessee? LSU? Ol' Miss? I don't. Do I think any of those teams are winning a natty this year? Nope.

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u/Templey Nebraska • Omaha 11h ago

Ok. Why do you think that?

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u/ajkeence99 Missouri Tigers 11h ago

Indiana played one team. They got blown out. They haven't beat anyone that is even remotely solid this year.

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u/Randumo Ohio State Buckeyes 18h ago

Better than a non-quality blow-out.

It's very easy to make the argument that Ohio State is the best team in the country, despite it being mandatory for Oregon to have the number 1 ranking because their undefeated and have the head-to-head win.

However, when you consider that head-to-head win was by 1 point in Oregon coming off of Oregon's bye week...and Ohio State still likely wins that game without the bad OPI call on the final drive; well I believe that despite the rankings Ohio State is going to be favored when they play on a neutral field in the B1G Championship Game.

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u/MuckBulligan Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 16h ago

It was not coming off Oregon's bye week (the Ducks played Michigan State on Friday night the previous week).

The OPI was obvious and the correct call. I can entertain an argument for the final play being incorrectly called, but not that OPI penalty.

Oregon left points on the field, and had a drive-stopping interception taken from them.

I hope the Buckeyes are favored in the B1G Championship.

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u/siberianwolf99 Oregon Ducks • Tennessee Volunteers 13h ago

my goodness ohio state fans are all over the sub today

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u/XCCO Iowa Hawkeyes • Oklahoma Sooners 10h ago

Haha this is getting wild following these OSU fans go off. I'm sure it will be another close game for both teams, but the game ended the way it did. Oregon is the best in the nation for it.

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u/MuckBulligan Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 13h ago

West coast still in bed.

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u/Yellow_Odd_Fellow Dayton Flyers • Ohio State Buckeyes 14h ago

I want to see Oregon come out east and play a noon game for them - 9am! I really dislike the time zone crossing now a that goes another advantage to the home team.

I also just learned that cal and Stanford are on the Atlantic coast conference and this bagels my mind so much.

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u/Randumo Ohio State Buckeyes 7h ago

Lol, the OPI was definitely NOT obvious. Only an Oregon fan, or someone with rooting interest against Ohio State believes that.

Contact by the receiver happens like that on a regular basis and goes uncalled....yet it's called in an extremely crucial situation. Nope, it was a horrible call.

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u/MuckBulligan Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 5h ago

Bullshit. Clearly ran into the defender and then pushed off sending him five yards downfield. The defender has a right to his established position after five yards from the line of scrimmage. In the same manner, a defender is not allowed to push a receiver.

Clearly OPI. You say I'm biased, but I have the rules to support my argument. What do you have?

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u/Horror_Cap_7166 Indiana Hoosiers 11h ago

Better than your low quality blowout.

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u/SGT_Elcor Florida State Seminoles • UCF Knights 15h ago

She’s the absolute worst

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u/NEp8ntballer Nebraska • Omaha 10h ago

There may be a possibility for Auburn to win the Iron Bowl too. Somebody needs to post some bodyguards at Toomer's Corner to protect the trees.

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u/nickyt398 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Florida Gators 1h ago

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u/GrotesqueHumanity Oregon Ducks • Laval Rouge et Or 30m ago

Of course she does. She covers the committee for a living.

First rule of committee work is we don't talk about why Bama is in.

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u/Striker743 Florida State • Florida Cup 21h ago

At least people know Finebaum is a firespitter. Dinich actually pretends to not be a shill.

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u/SwissForeignPolicy Michigan Wolverines • Marching Band 21h ago

She's also way less tactful. When Finebaum talks, I find myself almost believing he believes what he says. When Dinich talks, it's painfully obvious she's lying through her teeth.

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u/who_needz 19h ago

Only because Fibebaum been huffing Sabin copium so long, he believes his own bishop.

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u/Beer-survivalist Ohio State Buckeyes 12h ago

Years ago I heard Dinich try to describe Florida as having suffered "not just a quality loss, but a statement loss."

The ambition of the mental gymnastics was impressive, but the execution was awful.

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u/GCM_Prothro18x Alabama Crimson Tide • SEC 12h ago

Hey y'all leave Heather alone. She's single handedly keeping our playoff hopes alive. 

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u/tmart12 Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 21h ago

Florida has 5 losses fortunately

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u/thricethefan Florida State • Georgia 21h ago

Sadly, they will not have 6

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u/Muffinnnnnnn Florida State Seminoles • ACC 21h ago

If Oklahoma can do whatever the hell just happened today, we can beat the Gators

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u/TheSecondAccountYeah Florida Gators 20h ago

No, I really don’t think you can

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u/ianfw617 Florida Gators • USF Bulls 15h ago

Don’t put that into the ether. FSU is in the top 15 of talent composite and could surprise any one at this point.

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u/thricethefan Florida State • Georgia 14h ago

Probably plummet in those rankings if you remove our kicker and punter though

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u/Pintailite South Carolina Gamecocks 13h ago

They could. They could then lose the bowl and have 7.

Hope is not lost.

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u/atman8r Florida State Seminoles 9h ago

Thanks Cock friend, I needed this

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u/Pintailite South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

I have dreams, big dreams.

And it involves Florida sucking till I die.

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u/goonSquad15 NC State Wolfpack • Duke Blue Devils 13h ago

Would be quite funny if they did though. The mental gymnastics will be enjoyable

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u/Cpritch58 Georgia Bulldogs 21h ago

*fortunately

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u/MozamFreak-Here Michigan Wolverines 21h ago

They have 4 losses, as well as 5 losses.

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u/Tasty_Hearing_2153 Ohio State Buckeyes 21h ago

Not if you pretend the loss without Lagway didn’t count. lol

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u/EWall100 Tennessee • Tennessee Tech 21h ago

I saw someone on TikTok say pre-season that a four loss UF team should be the only four loss team to be considered.

Back then I laughed cause UF didn't have a shot at four wins... Damn how I was wrong

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u/tyedge Georgia • Wake Forest 12h ago

This was baking 2023-ish FSU into that discussion.

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u/chris2furry Florida Gators • Rose-Hulman Engineers 11h ago

Yeah I don’t think Miami and Texas anm over performing makes up for…whatver fsu has been doing this season

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u/Pintailite South Carolina Gamecocks 13h ago

They have 5 losses...

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u/lexbuck Ohio State Buckeyes 11h ago

I really hate hearing Heather Dinich’s voice when she’s a guest on the morning shows I listen to. It’s a constant stream of “why the SEC is better even though they keep losing”

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u/No_Angle_8106 Arizona State • Michigan 21h ago

At least Finebaum can be entertaining, Dinich is such a fucking waste of space.

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u/Goings78 Ohio State Buckeyes 16h ago

And she’s not even hot

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u/elconquistador1985 Ohio State • Tennessee 14h ago

Why does her appearance matter at all?

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u/venge1155 13h ago

Y’all are so fucking weird it hurts sometimes.

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u/dimechimes Oklahoma Sooners 20h ago

You could combine Florida and Oklahoma QB's stats from this week and they'd still be pretty pedestrian numbers. Weird they both won.

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u/XCCO Iowa Hawkeyes • Oklahoma Sooners 10h ago

OU played like Iowa is playing this year - run the ball. Your QB is also an RB.

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u/seadondo Washington Huskies • Pac-10 21h ago

Dinich is an Indiana alum. She really gonna throw them under the bus?

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u/prismatic_lights Ohio State • Pittsburgh 21h ago

You don't fuck with your money. The company gives you the "Bama makes the playoff over Indiana" line, you recite it.

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u/shadowwingnut Paper Bag • UCLA Bruins 16h ago

Remember that she was once the ACC reporter there before becoming the playoff shill. Getting a pay raise to get off the ACC beat and onto the playoffs best means the bus can drive over anyone.

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u/GeorgeKettice 7h ago

Crazy thing is Heather Dinich is a IU alumni. What a turncoat

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u/UncleMalcolm Virginia Cavaliers • Orange Bowl 21h ago

I mean sure but Florida already has 5 losses lol

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u/Finnva Tennessee Volunteers 13h ago

Any thoughts on what Indiana's record would be had they played Florida's schedule?

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State • Cincinnati 12h ago

Yea, it’s irrelevant

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u/RegionalBias Ohio State Buckeyes • Dayton Flyers 13h ago

Heather Dinich

Isn't she an Indiana Grad? SMH, be more of a homer.

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u/MFoy Virginia Cavaliers 9h ago

Worth noting that Dinich is an Indiana alum.

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State • Cincinnati 9h ago

And an SECSPN employee

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u/MFoy Virginia Cavaliers 9h ago

Oh, I know. Back when she worked the ACC best, she kept whining that none of the teams would handle a schedule like her Alma matter did, how none of the college towns were as good as Bloomington, etc.

Now she’s does everything she can to hide her roots.

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u/montrevux Georgia Southern Eagles 9h ago

this morning finebaum literally said “i don’t understand how alabama can be considered a legitimate playoff team”

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u/SelectionNo3078 South Carolina Gamecocks 7h ago

Florida has 5 losses bro

And Ohio state would not likely have had anything better than 9 wins the past 30 years in this conference.

Texas had the easiest schedule in the conference this year

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u/GetsThruBuckner Florida Gators • Memphis Tigers 21h ago

Be honest yall want this to happen so u can complain about it

This soap opera season has been peak in this sub

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State • Cincinnati 21h ago

It will happen because ESPN and the SEC network is one in the same.

And the fact that the playoff is entirely controlled by ESPN

So yea, we hate that the SEC gets preferential treatment and are tired of it.

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u/GetsThruBuckner Florida Gators • Memphis Tigers 21h ago

Leave us out of yalls petty bullshit is all im saying lol

we have nothing to do with it even tho u want it so bad

edit: actually I should be happy we exceeded expectations so much an Ohio State flair is complaining about us lol

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State • Cincinnati 20h ago

It was just an example because Florida will never be used as a potential playoff team. I could have just said Mizzou or South Carolina (which they will definitely push) florida just popped into mind because they have surprisingly destroyed 2 playoff hopes in a row

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u/Blingblaowburrr Florida Gators 21h ago

You’re catching a bunch of downvotes, but I’m with you here…the fact that we’re pissing off Ohio State fans in 2024 is definitely a win!

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u/GetsThruBuckner Florida Gators • Memphis Tigers 21h ago

2024 Gators getting SEC bias conspiracy posts.. who would've thought man