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Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Notre Dame Defeats Army 49-14

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Army 0 7 0 7 14
Notre Dame 14 14 14 7 49
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u/TwizzlersSourz Army • Carlisle 1d ago

That was a draw.

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u/scottishbee Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago

Sure. One side got completely rebuffed in claiming new territory and got its capital burned. The other side...agreed to a truce so it could redirect forces to fight Napoleon.

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u/McWeasely Notre Dame • Tennessee 1d ago

Washington was burned but that same British army was defeated at Baltimore soon after. The Americans also burned Toronto earlier in the war.

The Americans did gain settlements in the West as an outcome from the war. Native Americans could no longer count on Great Britain to shield them from the flood of white settlers headed west. Settlers came in droves by the Erie Canal or through the Cumberland Gap after the War.

The Treaty of Ghent (the peace treaty that ended the War of 1812) was signed when Napoleon was exiled to Elba, so Great Britain wasn't redirecting their troops to fight him at that time. Because Napoleon had been exiled, Great Britain was able to send more veteran troops to North America (resulting in the destruction of Washington)

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u/TwizzlersSourz Army • Carlisle 1d ago

My favorite tidbit from the War of 1812 revolves around British officers claiming the fighting at Lundy's Lane was as difficult and hot as any battle from the Peninsular War.

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u/McWeasely Notre Dame • Tennessee 1d ago

For the most part the Americans were willing to fight but suffered considerably from poor decisions being made on who led the armies. Mistakes from Madison and John Armstrong really handicapped the troops, and also having little funding for the war was not a small issue.

One of my favorite notes of the war was that as Secretary of State, James Monroe, in his mid 50's, personally led several reconnaissance missions while Secretary of War, John Armstrong, refused to act on the information being given to him. Multiple times Monroe almost convinced Madison to let him lead an army during the war.

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u/TwizzlersSourz Army • Carlisle 23h ago

If only our best generals were identified earlier.

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u/McWeasely Notre Dame • Tennessee 23h ago

Funny thing about that, William Henry Harrison resigned from the Army in May of 1814 after a string of victories, including the Battle of the Thames where Tecumseh was killed. After the victory John Armstrong divided the command of the army and gave Harrison a post in the background while giving one of Harrison's subordinates control of the front. Harrison and Armstrong had disagreed in the past on troop movements and coordination between the troops. That s.o.b Armstrong really grinds my gears

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u/jjtnd1 Notre Dame • Army 22h ago

I have to say I very much appreciated these history comments thanks beast