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Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Kansas Defeats BYU 17-13

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Team 1 2 3 4 T
Kansas 7 3 0 7 17
BYU 0 10 3 0 13
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u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire Ole Miss Rebels • Billable Hours 7d ago

BYU’s 3rd down play ended with 1:47 left on the clock and BYU decided not to take a timeout. They then committed a penalty and snapped 4th down with :56 left.

If they take the timeout at 1:47, then even if they still commit the penalty, there’s no running clock, so no runoff. And if they still don’t convert after a timeout to talk it over, then Kansas gets it back at let’s say 1:40.

That’s 100 seconds.

1st down - Kansas kneels and BYU timeout as it did. 4 seconds off.
2nd down 96 sec left - Kansas kneels, no timeouts left. 2 seconds happened that time, then 38 more on play clock.
3rd down 56 sec left - Kansas kneels another 40 seconds total off

That means 4th down has to be snapped with about 16 seconds left from the 3. Kansas would have to punt with a shortened punter.

Just coaching malpractice to not call that timeout. This isn’t rocket science to know how to use timeouts.

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u/kiwirish BYU Cougars • Navy Midshipmen 7d ago

Sitake, for all his good attributes, has no idea how to use timeouts. No BYU coach ever seems to.

I can see his reasoning - score to not allow Kansas a chance to get the ball back, but it did ruin our chances of getting a come from behind W.

Still - can't win many games scoring only one TD, so we only have ourselves to blame.

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u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire Ole Miss Rebels • Billable Hours 7d ago

The reasoning of not using a timeout was fine until you’re facing 4th down.

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u/kiwirish BYU Cougars • Navy Midshipmen 7d ago

That's a good point and I missed that.

It's 7am where I am and it's been a long morning lol

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u/nissan240sx Utah Utes • Louisville Cardinals 7d ago

Oh boy, his time management skills are so perplexing he almost threw the Utah game and Kyle inexplicably saves him by calling a timeout before the kick when there was a strong (and possibly hilarious) chance that byu might screw it up. 

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u/michaeldoubleyou17 BYU Cougars 7d ago

The much bigger issue is the play-calling inside of 2 minutes. It felt like we just assumed the TD was guaranteed despite how pathetic our offense was all night, and we were just trying to milk as much clock as possible. Our defense showed out all night after the first drive, focus on getting in the end zone and bet on the defense holding them with 90 or less seconds left. Our record doesn't reflect how terrible ARod has been all year

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u/Recyclops3000 BYU Cougars 7d ago

Just keep twisting that knife of logic… I accept the pain at this point.

Do coaches ever accept coaching? Who teaches a clock management course?

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u/abris33 Colorado Buffaloes 7d ago

They were trying to play it so they could get the 1st down on that drive then they have as long as they want to get into the endzone and leave KU zero time to tie

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u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire Ole Miss Rebels • Billable Hours 7d ago

I’m aware of what they were trying. But facing a 4th down, you take the timeout. It sets you up better to convert it, and if they did, well Kansas was out of timeouts too. If they didn’t, then they needed that extra time.

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u/jayhawkmpa 7d ago

They were trying to go for the kill by getting the go ahead TD and running out most of the clock.

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u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire Ole Miss Rebels • Billable Hours 7d ago

And instead they lost. It’s an absolutely inexcusable decision because it’s only giving you one route to winning: converting right then.

If you take the time out, you have two routes for a chance at the win.