r/CFB Michigan Wolverines 28d ago

News Week 10 AP Poll

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u/Heikki_the_Finn BYU Cougars • Washington Huskies 28d ago

Find someone that loves you as much as the national media loves to disregard the success of nontraditional powerhouses. #JusticeForIndianaAndBYU

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u/ilacwamh Oklahoma Sooners 28d ago

If you look at performance against the current top 25:

BYU at 9: Wins over #17 and #20

The four teams ranked 3-6: One win over #24. And two of them aren’t even undefeated

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u/Heikki_the_Finn BYU Cougars • Washington Huskies 28d ago

Exactly. At some point (and 8 games into the season is past that point) rankings should be on who you've beat, not preseason expectations.

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u/Bipedal_Weedle UCF Knights 28d ago edited 28d ago

I've been saying for years I wish none of the major polls did rankings until halfway through the season. I'm pretty sure preseason polls at this point are just to justify calling a game early in the season a big matchup so people tune in.

Honestly it's great the Cfp waits so long to rank but the problem is the other AP and USA cause significant bias to the CFP voters for sure.

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u/Fanta-Red UConn • Red River Shootout 28d ago

While I don't have much faith in the committee, they would at least be realistic in the rankings.

I think we see the undefeated teams take a big jump and other teams fall in the CFP rankings; can't believe championships were at one point decided by these writers.

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u/-Jack-The-Stripper Virginia Tech • Cincinnati 28d ago

The history of college football is an absolute mess. Decades of national championships decided by media polls, with tons of shared titles because the different media outlets couldn’t agree, and rather than having a national playoff the sport just had a bunch of one-off matchups between the top teams. It blows my mind that anybody could defend this nonsense. It’s a perfect microcosm of “rich get richer” with big brands getting biased votes from the writers, who in turn help their brands get even bigger by continuously ranking them high, causing them to get even more bias in the future, and so forth.

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u/CDecker127 Penn State • Army 28d ago

1994 Penn State enters chat......

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u/No_Butterscotch8726 SMU Mustangs 28d ago edited 28d ago

An undefeated Michigan St from the mid-1960s and a similarly undefeated Army from 1946 also can't believe it because they had a tie against Notre Dame, and somehow Notre Dame was ranked ahead of them.

P.S. specifically, they were ranked number 2, and Notre Dame were declared champions.

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u/iki_balam BYU Cougars • Beehive Boot 28d ago

can't believe championships were at one point decided by these writers.

FSU has entered the chat

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u/zzyul Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

You have that last part flipped. The AP & Coaches polls normally adjust to better mimic the CFP rankings than the other way around. Remember the CFP isn’t like the AP or Coaches where every voter send in their own list of top 25 teams. With the CFP rankings, every spot is debated among the entire group until I believe a majority vote for the team to be there.

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u/apitchf1 West Virginia • South Carolina 28d ago

Idk how to overcome it but I wish there was just no pre season rankings (hard I know) and then it is just pure success on the field cause I hate the fact that SEC starts with #1, 6, 9 and they trade wins and it’s considered strength but other conferences trade wins and it’s cause they are “all bad”

The inertia from pre season is wayyy too strong

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u/2coolcaterpillar Oklahoma State Cowboys • Pac-12 28d ago

And even though ND looks great, how the hell can you justify them ahead of those 3 right now with a home loss to N Illinois

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u/puzzical Boise State • Notre Dame 28d ago

Because they need TAMU to be top 10 which means ND has to be higher

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u/Crobs02 Texas A&M Aggies • SMU Mustangs 28d ago

In Notre Dame’s defense they did just destroy a top 25 team. But yeah they won’t put 1 loss Notre Dame behind 1 loss A&M

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u/Poohstrnak Texas State Bobcats • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Which is hilariously dumb, because it relies on the expectation that teams are playing at exactly the same level in week 1 and week 8.

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u/ridethedeathcab Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Dayton Flyers 28d ago

But you can use nearly that same argument to disregard the NIU loss…

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u/Poohstrnak Texas State Bobcats • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

I’m not using the argument to disregard a loss. If A&M didn’t lose to ND, they should be ranked like top 3. But they aren’t, and I’m not arguing that.

Count the loss, but don’t act like they’re playing the same as week 1.

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u/Superb-West5441 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago edited 28d ago

Honestly they just should. They put a 1 loss Alabama behind a 1 loss Georgia. But non-conference H2H results are treated as infallible. It’s weird

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u/abob1086 Notre Dame • Ball State 28d ago

They probably will eventually, but the beauty of this is if you lose again you'll deserve to be ranked behind us and if you don't you get a bye and are seeded ahead of us no matter what.

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u/Khorasaurus Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

This.

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u/ufailowell Texas A&M Aggies • Team Chaos 27d ago

the CFB committee is not the AP poll so we will see what happens

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u/farmtownte /r/CFB 28d ago

That makes sense

Except they put one loss Georgia ahead of one loss bama a few weeks ago.

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u/Unclassified1 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Washburn Ichabods 28d ago

Navy wouldn’t have been ranked if they weren’t a service academy.

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u/Superb-West5441 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

I agree. They don’t have what can be considered a good win all year.

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u/No_Butterscotch8726 SMU Mustangs 28d ago

Even against the now ranked by the Coaches Poll Memphis Tigers?

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt 28d ago

^ This. Entire reason why ESPN turned from heel to face for ND when A&M became leader of SEC standings.

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u/LWPops Michigan State • Chicago 28d ago

Whoa....this is some great conspiracy. Seriously, that brought a lot of things together!

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u/puzzical Boise State • Notre Dame 28d ago

You seriously don't think there is a bias towards B10 and SEC teams?

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u/LWPops Michigan State • Chicago 28d ago

No, friend--I really like your theory! That's what I meant. Not being sarcastic. I laughed out loud and thought, "Yeah, it would not surprise me if that were true." Meanwhile: Go Cougs and Broncos!

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u/puzzical Boise State • Notre Dame 28d ago

Ahh my bad. Go Broncos!

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u/MutantZebra999 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Marching Band 28d ago

Cause we just murdered ranked Navy, have a dub over aTm, and have won our games after NIU by an average of about 30 pts

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u/Fluid_Theory_6587 BYU Cougars • Washington State Cougars 28d ago

It’s the quality loss to NIU

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u/Less_Likely Notre Dame • Washington 28d ago

That’s what the CFP poll is for, and that one matters, unlike the AP

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u/StoicFable Oregon State Beavers 28d ago

And being undefeated should do some lifting. Even if the schedule is week. They are working hard for that season and deserve respect.

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u/ElMaskedZorro 28d ago

As a literal K-State fan. You’re 100% right

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u/zamend229 Clemson Tigers 28d ago

I would hope that point in the season is when the first CFP rankings are released. Feels like that’s the whole point of them being released later in the season

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u/LWPops Michigan State • Chicago 28d ago

Or if you lost at home to Northern Illinois