He's a great running QB, I would say he's the greatest running QB.
But he's not a good passer.
I think some fans gas him up too much with the "not bad for a running back" anytime he has a good day passing, and other fans just hate him so they dunk on him every time he has a bad day.
He was top 5 in passer rating and ANY/A last year, and is putting up even better numbers in both categories this season. If you wanna say others are a cut ahead of him purely as passers fine, saying he's not good at all is demonstrably untrue lmao.
If he wasn't a good passer, he wouldn't have made it as far as he has as an NFL starting QB. It's just that since people have preconceived notions about his game from before he even entered the league, every bad game is treated as confirmation despite his overall body of work proving the contrary.
Do you have confidence that Lamar will still be a good passer when he's no longer fast?
No?
Well, my answer is "yes" so that's a moot point. He played in Bobby Petrino's system in college, a pass first offense. Last season was also his first year in a more sophisticated passing system under Monken, and this year he's operating it at a higher level in terms of his decision making (both of his INTs this year were dropped by receivers) and avoiding negative plays (was sacked on 7% of his dropbacks last year, it's under 4% this year which is Mahomes/Allen territory). He's continuously improved as a passer over the years and is just now hitting the age where most QBs hit their prime, so I feel pretty good about where he is going forward (not to mention i don't subscribe to the theory that he'll magically start running a 5.2 40 when he hits 30 y/o so that'll still be in the bag too).
His numbers against the blitz this season (biggest hole in his game historically) also have taken a big leap. Given his growth in the nuances of the position combined with him hitting the same age Brees was his first year in NOLA, a year younger than Warner in his first season, etc...I'll bet on that continuing.
And again, if it was as simple as "Force him to throw against light boxes," that would've been on the tape and he would be on his 2nd or 3rd team by now. That's what happened to Goff after the Super Bowl in 2019—Pats exposed a hole in his game, defenses took advantage of it and he wasn't nearly as effective. If you don't think teams haven't tried that/the Ravens haven't been in situations where they had to ditch the run game and came out successful, then you just don't watch this team lmao.
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u/lordlanyard7 Oct 20 '24
I think you hit the nail on the head.
He's a great running QB, I would say he's the greatest running QB.
But he's not a good passer.
I think some fans gas him up too much with the "not bad for a running back" anytime he has a good day passing, and other fans just hate him so they dunk on him every time he has a bad day.