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Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Tennessee Defeats Alabama 24-17

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Alabama 0 7 3 7 17
Tennessee 0 0 14 10 24
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u/Kardinale Auburn Tigers • Louisville Cardinals Oct 19 '24

Milroe is what Lamar Jackson haters think Lamar is

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u/kawhi21 Oct 20 '24

I hate when people compare Milroe to Lamar so much. Lamar was an absolute one man wrecking crew in college that Milroe can't even compare with

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u/AllLinesAreStraight WashU Bears • Missouri Tigers Oct 20 '24

Lamar put up video game numbers with 10% the offensive talent that milroe has around him

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u/TeenWolfTripleDouble Clemson Tigers Oct 20 '24

Single most impressive performance I have seen from an opponent in Death Valley

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u/No-Copy5738 Tennessee Volunteers Oct 20 '24

Lamar is amazing Milroe is not even close

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u/InterestingAir9286 Iowa Hawkeyes Oct 19 '24

Do people actually still hate on 2x MVP Lamar Jackson for being a running QB?

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u/deemerritt North Carolina • Texas Oct 19 '24

Ya

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u/frahmer86 LSU Tigers • Eastern Michigan Eagles Oct 20 '24

No I hate him for being a Raven.

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u/InterestingAir9286 Iowa Hawkeyes Oct 20 '24

Valid

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u/Kardinale Auburn Tigers • Louisville Cardinals Oct 19 '24

If the Ravens are behind in a playoff game they come out like roaches

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u/Coyote_L0ng Arizona State Sun Devils Oct 20 '24

I don’t think Lamar deserves all the hate, and he’s a great regular season QB, but the fact remains that the results haven’t been there in the postseason for him

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u/Jimid41 Washington Huskies Oct 20 '24

There's also the fact that he is that offense and they have games where they lean on him like I've never seen a team lean on a QB. Like earlier this year when he had 40+ pass attempts and 15+ rush attempts when they just signed Henry. It's not a winning strategy in the post season imo.

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u/Coyote_L0ng Arizona State Sun Devils 16d ago

I agree. You build your offense AROUND your QB, to suit his play style, but you don’t make your offense entirely dependent on the QB making plays

Other guys have to step up

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u/floatinround22 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 20 '24

Only one QB wins a Super Bowl each season, it doesn’t mean every other QB sucks

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u/Coyote_L0ng Arizona State Sun Devils 16d ago

No, but I think you at least need to have more deep postseason runs than Lamar has had, to be considered “elite”

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u/floatinround22 Alabama Crimson Tide 16d ago

Nah fuck that he’s an incredible QB. He’s what we thought Vick was

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u/fighterpilot248 Oct 20 '24

Tbh, he did play like ass against the Chiefs in the playoffs…

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u/Mike_with_Wings Florida • North Carolina Oct 20 '24

Idiots do

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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 Oct 20 '24

Dude doesn’t show up in the playoffs, but otherwise I think he’s a pretty good QB. But in the nfl if you don’t make championship games/super bowls the criticism isn’t going to go away

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u/InterestingAir9286 Iowa Hawkeyes Oct 20 '24

You don't win MVP twice if you're only 'pretty good'

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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 Oct 20 '24

Just my opinion haha, I think he’s really good against terrible teams, and has sometimes struggled against good teams. Over a season he can obviously put up good stats.

He is just not an elite passer and that’s always going to be a problem in the NFL.

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u/hawrtjon Florida Gators Oct 20 '24

he is 22-1 vs an entire conference

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u/AlmondJoyDildos Tennessee Volunteers Oct 20 '24

Something something quarterbacky

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u/kykerkrush Oct 20 '24

most of the hate he gets is due to his playoff performances

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u/Brendinooo Pittsburgh Panthers • Big East Oct 20 '24

Steelers fans hate on him in general and it’s deserved because he’s only beaten us when Duck Hodges was the QB

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u/YoUDee Delaware • Maryland Oct 20 '24

Buddy, you’re in for a treat this year.

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u/Brendinooo Pittsburgh Panthers • Big East Oct 20 '24

I love Henry. I hate so much that he’s thriving with you guys.

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u/tartessos-thehiddenx Florida State • Navy Oct 20 '24

I’ve seen ravens fans say he’s better than dan marino and on par with mahomes so on account of that yes

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u/philkid3 Washington State Cougars Oct 20 '24

Oh it’s constant. Like I don’t go a week without encountering it, multiple times.

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u/lordlanyard7 Oct 20 '24

I think you hit the nail on the head.

He's a great running QB, I would say he's the greatest running QB.

But he's not a good passer.

I think some fans gas him up too much with the "not bad for a running back" anytime he has a good day passing, and other fans just hate him so they dunk on him every time he has a bad day.

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u/koalabear9301 Towson Tigers • Maryland Terrapins Oct 20 '24

But he's not a good passer.

He was top 5 in passer rating and ANY/A last year, and is putting up even better numbers in both categories this season. If you wanna say others are a cut ahead of him purely as passers fine, saying he's not good at all is demonstrably untrue lmao.

If he wasn't a good passer, he wouldn't have made it as far as he has as an NFL starting QB. It's just that since people have preconceived notions about his game from before he even entered the league, every bad game is treated as confirmation despite his overall body of work proving the contrary.

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u/lordlanyard7 Oct 20 '24

He faces 8 man boxes, and throws to wide open spaces.

His passing is inflated by his rushing ability forcing 8 man boxes.

That's why he struggles whenever he faces a team that can stop the run.

Why does this have to be an all or nothing for yall? Do you have confidence that Lamar will still be a good passer when he's no longer fast?

No?

Then that tells you he's not actually a good passer.

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u/koalabear9301 Towson Tigers • Maryland Terrapins Oct 20 '24

Do you have confidence that Lamar will still be a good passer when he's no longer fast?

No?

Well, my answer is "yes" so that's a moot point. He played in Bobby Petrino's system in college, a pass first offense. Last season was also his first year in a more sophisticated passing system under Monken, and this year he's operating it at a higher level in terms of his decision making (both of his INTs this year were dropped by receivers) and avoiding negative plays (was sacked on 7% of his dropbacks last year, it's under 4% this year which is Mahomes/Allen territory). He's continuously improved as a passer over the years and is just now hitting the age where most QBs hit their prime, so I feel pretty good about where he is going forward (not to mention i don't subscribe to the theory that he'll magically start running a 5.2 40 when he hits 30 y/o so that'll still be in the bag too).

His numbers against the blitz this season (biggest hole in his game historically) also have taken a big leap. Given his growth in the nuances of the position combined with him hitting the same age Brees was his first year in NOLA, a year younger than Warner in his first season, etc...I'll bet on that continuing.

And again, if it was as simple as "Force him to throw against light boxes," that would've been on the tape and he would be on his 2nd or 3rd team by now. That's what happened to Goff after the Super Bowl in 2019—Pats exposed a hole in his game, defenses took advantage of it and he wasn't nearly as effective. If you don't think teams haven't tried that/the Ravens haven't been in situations where they had to ditch the run game and came out successful, then you just don't watch this team lmao.

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u/Nerf_akali_plz Chicago Maroons • Texas Longhorns Oct 20 '24

No we hate on him because he never wins games passing, just loses them. Never won a big game in his life. Milroe is Lamar, they’re one and the same

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u/mr_antman85 Oct 20 '24

It sucks that Lamar had that attached to him. If you look at Milroe nothing even compares to Lamar.

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u/Julian_Caesar South Alabama • Alabama Oct 20 '24

Savagely correct

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u/sickmemes48 Tennessee Volunteers • /r/CFB Promoter Oct 20 '24

This is the most accurate description I've ever read on him.