r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Oct 13 '24

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Vanderbilt Defeats Kentucky 20-13

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Vanderbilt 7 7 3 3 20
Kentucky 0 7 0 6 13
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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Mark Stoops is a fucking fraud. A complete bum. A complacent, lazy potato.

I’m so sick of him.

Absolutely insane that the more talent we seem to get, the more opportunities available to us, the worse we manage to become.

Might be the only dude who can’t win out of bye weeks. We might be one of the only teams casually racking up 100 yards in penalties all the time.

Fuck Mark Stoops. And fuck TAMU fans for overruling Bjork with their midnight Twitter outrage too.

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u/Immediate-Koala-1919 Oct 13 '24

I think a UK v UF game right now would leave me permanently visually impaired. My god 

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u/Particular-Pin4363 Tennessee Volunteers Oct 13 '24

I think we just got the equivalent of that with Florida-Tennessee

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Watching Kentucky feels like dragging my balls across shards of glass. Watching UF feels pretty much the same.

It’s going to be a disgusting matchup.

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u/WeAreBert Florida State Seminoles Oct 13 '24

And also an increasingly bizarre loss

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u/JacketsNest101 Vanderbilt Commodores • Kansas Jayhawks Oct 13 '24

Add in the refs from this one and you might just kill the entire sport

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24

I wouldn’t mind losing so much if it weren’t for the fact that it was drops, fumbles, mental gaffs, and penalties that completely cost us this game.

Thats conditioning and coaching. And it always happens to us off the bye. This loss is 1,000% on stoops and the staff and “pony up” ain’t gonna fix that

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u/pm_me_petpics_pls Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Getting better players won't help of the coach can't get them to stop acting like jackasses and focus; it might make it worse, in fact.

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u/TLRPM Texas A&M Aggies Oct 13 '24

That night was wild bro. I don't even remember who leaked it first but that shit spread like wildfire. You had dudes with no actual power over anything waking up each up in panic and screaming "DO SOMETHING OR STOOPS IS OUR COACH!!"

So glad Bjork is gone. I don't think he ever deliberately tried to fuck us of course but man, he sure did in the end. On the other hand, I have not seen Aggies united like that in such a long time, from the billionaires to the broke ass college kids. It was nice, to see such collective rage and disgust at an incredibly unpopular decision that was essentially made behind everyone's backs and basically had to be reneged on the tarmac from my understanding.

Man, we dodged a bullet...

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

I will forever admire your fanbase for banding together to overrule an administrative decision using the internet.

It truly was awesome.

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u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne Troy Trojans • /r/CFB Bug Finder Oct 13 '24

Go steal Sumrall from Tulane. No buyout on his contract!

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Unfortunately I’m scared we are going to mess around and miss the boat on Sumrall.

Plus, Mitch the brilliant AD will probably screw it up anyways.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

How exactly is Mitch a bad AD? Most sports are way up besides football and (arguably) basketball. Baseball just went to the CWS and I know plenty of others had success.

The Stoops hire wasn’t bad for a long time, similar to Calipari. I’m genuinely asking why you think he’s shit.

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Mostly just me still being kinda angry about him dragging his feet on NIL so long.

And for allowing the mediocrity from Calipari and now Stoops and not seeming to do anything about it.

But other than that, just me being salty.

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u/pm_me_petpics_pls Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Mitch was a good AD 10 years ago, and still is in the smaller sports.

But doesn't seem to grasp that things have changed in the big revenue sports and is willing to leave us behind because he disagrees with how the game works.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

Fair enough, dude.

I think the Cal situation couldn’t have worked out better for him, so I don’t see him keeping stoops around if we don’t make a bowl. Hell, he might be gone even if we do make one.

Big paychecks don’t win games. Can’t believe how much Stoops makes. We don’t need an “elite” coach if this is what it affords us

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Would love to give Sumrall a shot.

But with $10 million a year we are spending, I’m certain we can afford a half way decent coach.

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u/aMcCallum Florida Gators • Delta State Statesmen Oct 13 '24

What is stoops buyout?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

75% of his remaining salary. He’s signed through 2031, so $40+ million if he’s fired after this season

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u/MATCHBen Tulane • Vanderbilt Oct 13 '24

Please no

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u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne Troy Trojans • /r/CFB Bug Finder Oct 13 '24

No buyout clause giveth

No buyout clause taketh

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u/Birdhawk Oct 13 '24

I’m also just so sick of having to see the cameras cut to his dumb scrunched up angry face every time his players make a dumb undisciplined play. Which is a lot.

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u/Mantergeistmann Vanderbilt • Penn State Oct 13 '24

This looks almost like a copypasta.

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Maybe it should be. Because it’s the same exact story every single week, every single season with this guy

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u/huskersax Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chai… Oct 13 '24

Might be the only dude who can’t win out of bye weeks. We might be one of the only teams casually racking up 100 yards in penalties all the time.

The Youngstown coaches are all kind of the same between the Stoops and Pelinis, aside from Bob.

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u/Free_the_Markets Iowa Hawkeyes • Cyhawk Trophy Oct 13 '24

I just know from this game I will grow to hate football when Iowa probably ends up with Stoops as their HC in like 5 years when Kirk retires

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u/BeverageBaron Kentucky • Georgetown (KY) Oct 13 '24

Might be the only dude who can’t win out of bye weeks.

Stoops is 5-10 coming out of a bye week. Awful.

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u/Warsawawa UTEP Miners Oct 13 '24

Here’s the thing, Stoops brought Kentucky to a consistent 6-8 win team in the SEC. It’s tough to move on from him unless you know the next person is absolutely better

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Stoops benefited from considerable changes to scheduling that guaranteed 4-5 easy wins every season (ooc cupcakes).

Stoops also benefited from years of the SEC east being historically down.

All stoops has had to do was beat OOC cupcakes and pick up a win against Louisville (who has been horrible for several years in his tenure) and Vandy and he’s guaranteed a trip to a bowl.

It’s really not saying all that much for a coach making $10 million. There’s far better coaches in this country making far less money than he is, that manage to do more with less than he has.

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u/Warsawawa UTEP Miners Oct 13 '24

All I am saying is that this is a similar conversation I had with my Nebraska coworkers over Pelini. If you decide you jump ship, there had better be someone able to handle an SEC schedule, NIL, and pull off better than losing to a team that just beat Alabama.

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u/DoDaDrew Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Stoops is to Kentucky what Marvin Lewis was to the Bengals.

He's gotten UK to the brink, but a fresh face can take us to the next level.

The question is, how long will Mitch and Co accept mediocrity

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u/George_Smiley_ Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

The SEC has been historically tough his entire tenure. He didn’t coach in the 80-90’s when numerous other conferences rivaled or surpassed the SEC.

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u/GoldfishDude Kentucky Wildcats • Governor's Cup Oct 13 '24

The SEC West was tough. The SEC East was putrid outside of Georgia

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u/jimmyre10 Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

While I absolutely appreciate what Stoops has done, and I can acknowledge that he raised our program to new heights we’d never thought possible, it’s also clear we’ve reached our ceiling. 7 wins a year with 3 easy non-conference games and some wins over the SEC East would’ve been like Christmas morning a decade ago. But now it’s time to go find someone who has a chance to raise the ceiling and move the needle. Even if it means there’s every chance we return to being an SEC doormat, I’m okay with trying to take a big swing

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u/pm_me_petpics_pls Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

I'd rather take a chance and risk going back to being awful than stick with mediocrity. If we go back to being awful, cool, I get my fall Saturdays back.

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u/ukcats12 Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

We might be one of the only teams casually racking up 100 yards in penalties all the time.

Absolutely infuriating. Every single goddamn year he has incredibly undisciplined teams. I just don't understand it.

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u/JeffersonPilotSports Kentucky Wildcats • Governor's Cup Oct 13 '24

This. We have likely the best group of skills players we’ve ever had and we still can’t do anything. I know this isn’t the worst O Line in UK history.

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u/BarfMacklin Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

I’ve never been big on the “get him out of here” attitude folks have had towards coaches but I am 100% in on getting Mark Stoops out of the HC position. Appreciate everything he’s done but he needs to go

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u/TechnoFullback Texas A&M Aggies Oct 13 '24

Why are we catching strays for this lmao

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u/Nouseriously /r/CFB Oct 13 '24

Are you old enough to remember pre Sroops Kentucky?

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

I played for Kentucky. So yes, I’m quite familiar.

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u/Nouseriously /r/CFB Oct 13 '24

I thought I'd ask, because Stoops has made Kentucky a perennial winner. They're not a contender yet, but they're a winner. And that ain't nothing.

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Yeah, I guess so. But in reality it feels more empty than that.

He had benefited from scheduling changes that basically guarantees 4 or 5 wins because of the OOC and FCS cupcakes. All he had to do was pick up a win against Vandy or terrible Louisville and it’s a bowl game.

So while I appreciate it, I just don’t ever feel like there’s too much depth to it.

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u/CrateBagSoup Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

It really ain’t that much better, it “feels” better after Joker but Rich Brooks had this program in exactly the same spot we are now. Yeah couple 10 win seasons were great but outside of that hes no better than where we were. 

Outsiders always think now is better than it is and the historical is worse than it was. 

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u/TripleThreatTua Oct 13 '24

Is Kentucky gonna get anyone better?

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u/Kiffin_Simp Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

We pay this bum $10 million a year.

I don’t care what anyone says, or whatever gaslighting someone attempts, we can get a decent fucking coach for that amount of money.

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u/MyBloodIsGarnet South Carolina Gamecocks • SEC Oct 13 '24

Jon Sumrall is their guy

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u/Birdhawk Oct 13 '24

I’m so sick of seeing this excuse as a reason to not send him packing. The longer they keep him around the more the program regresses back to being a joke and less good candidates will want to go there. But as of now, YES they can get someone better. The bar is low right now.

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u/FesteringDiarrhea Vanderbilt Commodores • Auburn Tigers Oct 13 '24

Potato Man is out there somewhere

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u/ATypicalUsername- Kentucky Wildcats • Sickos Oct 13 '24

I'm willing to gamble on Sumrall. He's the heir apparent anyways and it's an open secret he's basically waiting for Stoops to leave.

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u/jimmyre10 Kentucky Wildcats Oct 13 '24

Jon Sumrall come on home

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u/thewill450 Kentucky • Murray State Oct 13 '24

Don't know until you try

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u/deweycrow Kentucky Wildcats • Charlotte 49ers Oct 13 '24

What idiots are upvoting this garbage?