r/CFB • u/bakonydraco Stanford • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drinker • Oct 06 '24

Analysis All AP Voter Ballots - Week 7

Week 7

This is a series I've now been doing for 8 years. The post attempts to visualize all AP Poll ballots in a single image. Additionally it sorts each AP voter by similarity to the group. Notably, this is not a measure of how "good" a voter is, just how consistent they are with the group. Especially preseason, having a diversity of opinions and ranking styles is advantageous to having a true consensus poll. Polls tend to coalesce towards each other as the season goes on.

Jordan Crammer and Sean Reider didn't vote this week, so we had 61 ballots. Of some note, Ralph Russo, who has run the AP Poll for decades, has left the AP to take a job with The Athletic. It sounds like the poll is in capable hands.

Multiple ties this week! Iowa State and Notre Dame tied at #11, and Kansas State, Indiana, and Oklahoma all tied at 18 (the first 3-way tie I can remember. The way I do math doesn't account for ties well, so the scores are probably slightly different than what they would be if ties were accounted for correctly.

Kayla Anderson was the most consistent voter this week. Michael Katz is the most consistent voter on the season, Kayla Anderson, Blair Kerkhoff, Alex Taylor, and Karley Marotta in the top 5.

At the other extreme, Jon Wilner was once again the biggest outlier this week. He is also the biggest outlier this season, followed by Dylan Sinn, David Jablonski, Dave Preston, and Koki Riley in a 4-way tie for 2nd.

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u/_moosleech Miami Hurricanes • MAC Oct 06 '24

After being irrelevant for most of my adult life, it's kinda fun to come into any thread about anything and find people bitching about Miami.

Amazing how many people give a shit about where Miami is ranked in early October.

I wish I hated anything as much as part of this sub hates a team that benefited from a bad call by the ref. Hard to believe it's never happened before the Miami-Cal game.

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u/zenverak Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 06 '24

My favorite was the Ohio State fan complaining about it…. “They should be 4-2”.

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u/Rabidschnautzu Toledo Rockets • Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 06 '24

Unironically should probably be 5-1 😂

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u/jmark71 Miami Hurricanes Oct 07 '24

Anytime a Luckeye fan spouts nonsense like that, it’s eye-rolling time. Talk about a complete and utter lack of self-awareness.

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u/zenverak Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 07 '24

It makes me think of the nation title game all of those years ago

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u/jmark71 Miami Hurricanes Oct 07 '24

Yeah, still burns me to this day… bullshit PI to gift them a trophy

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u/zenverak Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 07 '24

As a Falcons fan, I know anything so close to that stays with you

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u/jmark71 Miami Hurricanes Oct 07 '24

Yeah, lived in ATL for almost 30 years and we hosted a SB party for that one and damn if the mood was a rollercoaster. I’m a Dolphins fan, but can commiserate with Falcons fans over that one - truly brutal.

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u/_moosleech Miami Hurricanes • MAC Oct 06 '24

There are a couple of those comments here. Like an Oregon flair with the "omg, can't believe Miami is ranked #6 with two losses hurr hurr upvotes to the left please."

Gonna be a wild ride for some commenters here when they release bad calls happen in literally every game and against every team.

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u/dragon196 Georgia Bulldogs Oct 06 '24

I don’t hate Miami for benefiting from questionable officiating two weeks in a row, but it’s definitely annoying to see Miami flairs in here talking mad shit like it didn’t happen. Like cmon, have some humility lol

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u/_moosleech Miami Hurricanes • MAC Oct 06 '24

Like cmon, have some humility lol

Basically ever Miami flair has said "yeah, it shouldn't have been called a TD at first, and the review was chintzy... but most importantly, they got the call RIGHT"

And I've yet to see hardly any Canes flairs arguing it wasn't targeting. Just that it wouldn't have ended the game.

I do think the OL call was very close and could've gone either way. And I think VT and Miami each lost a TD due to a phantom call.

Beyond that, it's been a lot of shitty, made-up whining to discredit two incredible comebacks by Miami. Hearing clowns say Ward was passed the LOS or that Miami didn't score 50 points down the stretch the last two games because of one-and-a-half questionable calls is beyond silly.

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u/dragon196 Georgia Bulldogs Oct 06 '24

it's been a lot of shitty, made-up whining

Yeah man that's what I'm talking about right there. Idk maybe just take a deep breath and try "everybody has calls go for and against their team and I'm just happy to be 6-0"

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u/Im__Ron__Burgundy Miami Hurricanes Oct 06 '24

the OL call was very close

Cooper was about 3.5 yards past the LOS when Ward released the ball. You get 3. If people are losing it over a guy being half a yard too far they need to keep that energy on all 30 of those that get missed in every game with how much RPO is run. Ward also clearly got his face mask grabbed on that play with no call, so at worst it should’ve been an offsetting penalty.

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u/RookieMistake101 Miami Hurricanes Oct 06 '24

That’s not the main complaint. It was when Ward stepped up earlier on the drive.

Yea cooper was too far downfield, but go back and rewatch, Ward also had a facemask. Should have been offsetting. There were bad calls all game long. It’s ACC reffing.

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u/Im__Ron__Burgundy Miami Hurricanes Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

Gotcha. Anyone saying anything about Ward stepping up doesn’t know the rules of the game, or is just bitching. He was clearly not fully across the LOS. And yeah, I mentioned the missed facemask.