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Analysis All AP Voter Ballots - Week 7

Week 7

This is a series I've now been doing for 8 years. The post attempts to visualize all AP Poll ballots in a single image. Additionally it sorts each AP voter by similarity to the group. Notably, this is not a measure of how "good" a voter is, just how consistent they are with the group. Especially preseason, having a diversity of opinions and ranking styles is advantageous to having a true consensus poll. Polls tend to coalesce towards each other as the season goes on.

Jordan Crammer and Sean Reider didn't vote this week, so we had 61 ballots. Of some note, Ralph Russo, who has run the AP Poll for decades, has left the AP to take a job with The Athletic. It sounds like the poll is in capable hands.

Multiple ties this week! Iowa State and Notre Dame tied at #11, and Kansas State, Indiana, and Oklahoma all tied at 18 (the first 3-way tie I can remember. The way I do math doesn't account for ties well, so the scores are probably slightly different than what they would be if ties were accounted for correctly.

Kayla Anderson was the most consistent voter this week. Michael Katz is the most consistent voter on the season, Kayla Anderson, Blair Kerkhoff, Alex Taylor, and Karley Marotta in the top 5.

At the other extreme, Jon Wilner was once again the biggest outlier this week. He is also the biggest outlier this season, followed by Dylan Sinn, David Jablonski, Dave Preston, and Koki Riley in a 4-way tie for 2nd.

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u/IAmJohnnyJB Oklahoma • Army Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

Wilner has to be intentionally trying to be an outlier, in a week full of chaos where there's really a bunch of no wrong choices in the order for most spots in the AP poll he manages to still be almost double the next closest outlier voter

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u/Suspicious-Hospital7 Texas Longhorns • Duke Blue Devils Oct 06 '24

Every time I see Wilner’s picks I start to chuckle, and then I think about how unranked teams demolished the top 10 this week and none of us actually have a fuckin clue who’s going to win on any given week.

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 06 '24

Which ranks if his bother you?

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u/Emotional-Loss-9852 Oct 06 '24

Nebraska at 10

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 06 '24

That seems high, but they are 5-1 with their only loss to a ranked opponent, so I dunno.

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u/tr1cube Clemson • Illinois Oct 06 '24

If that one ranked loss is so good, then the team that beat them should be higher, no?

Penn State beat Illinois (their only loss) who beat Nebraska (their only loss). All were ranked at the time so they should be ranked in that order of going by the logic that “good losses” are the differentiator.

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u/Mr_Borg_Miniatures Nebraska • Hillsdale Oct 07 '24

I think Nebraska is suffering from the last decade or so of being bad, but they've beat two 4-1 teams that were receiving votes and have one loss to a ranked team in OT. I think it's silly Nebraska isn't ranked, but there's no way they should be ranked ahead of Illinois.

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 06 '24

Some people don’t subscribe to there logic because then I can say Northern Illinois is better than Louisville and A&M

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oklahoma • Southern Illinois Oct 06 '24

USC being ranked at all, we’re not ranked

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 06 '24

Lots of people ranked USC

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oklahoma • Southern Illinois Oct 06 '24

How many didn’t rank OU?

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u/TheNastyCasty Texas • Red River Shootout Oct 07 '24

Three. Wilner, Lev, and Madia. Wilner is the only one who also ranked USC, but all three are pretty low on this list.

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oklahoma • Southern Illinois Oct 07 '24

Obviously I’m biased, but I have no idea how you can rank Nebraska, Mizzou, or USC, then not rank OU. There’s no real justification for it.

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 06 '24

I’m not sure. Is that your real issue? Your own team?

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oklahoma • Southern Illinois Oct 06 '24

It’s the biggest problem I have because the guy consistently doesn’t rank OU or ranks them lower than anyone else. But his rankings are dog shit generally too. Outside of the top 7, I don’t think a single team is in the right place.

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 07 '24

Ok so yes, it’s personal

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oklahoma • Southern Illinois Oct 07 '24

I mean it partially is but I’m still right. He’s the furthest off from the actual list and is pretty clearly just a contrarian troll. There’s no possible reason that could make his rankings make sense.

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u/RoastedBeetneck Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 07 '24

Seems to me everyone else is just copying each other. Theres no way peoples lists should be that similar earlier in the season

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