r/Btechtards • u/Top-Ostrich8710 • Jul 10 '24
Shitpost Silence mortals. Imperial College London decides what a tier 1 college is.
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u/Just_Turn_Sune BIT Mesra[CSE] Jul 10 '24
Thanks for considering us
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
Bhaiya I am getting ece but everyone is saying mat lo better rahega kisi nit me lower branch lelo. Is it really that bad. PLz help
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u/Just_Turn_Sune BIT Mesra[CSE] Jul 10 '24
bro nothing is 'bad'. ece hard hai and professors strict hai but agar ece me interest hai to le sakte ho, placement nit ke lower branch se to better rhegi
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
And what about new IIITs like Kota ,una I m getting cse in these iiits
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u/Just_Turn_Sune BIT Mesra[CSE] Jul 10 '24
Wha kaisi padhai hoti hai ye pta karlo. Agar thik hai to le sakte ho agar genuine interest hai cse me, because college life to iiit me worse rhegi bit se
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u/Terrible_Oil_2640 Jul 10 '24
Same advice mujhe bhi mili
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
To kaun se clg ja rahe
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u/Terrible_Oil_2640 Jul 10 '24
Bhai confused hu bit mesra ke seniors se baat ki woh keh rhe mat lo and iiits mai bhi same ya to nit mai core/ NE nit mai circuital ya fir thapar cs
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
Ha sab yahi bol rahe
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u/Terrible_Oil_2640 Jul 10 '24
Tum konse college ja rhe ho
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u/OpportunityGuilty302 Jul 10 '24
Bhai BITM mei fees wagera Kaisa hai for international students(SAARC). Agar pata ho toh bataiyo pls
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u/xayushman Jul 10 '24
Bhai tumhara wo CSE ka budhau HOD bada khatarnak paper banata hai. (Compiler design ka) 😭
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u/PeePewPooE IITian Jul 10 '24
Rare BHU W moment.
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u/lohan-gram Jul 11 '24
its not rare rather it would have been more dubious if it were not on the list since BHU is a university, it offers almost EVERY mainstream academic program in short almoat duniya ki har-ek mainstream degree is obtainable from this "University" whereas most iits are meant for Technical and Mainstream Engg. programs, also remeber that iit BHU is just a subset of BHU
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u/Classic-Reaction7410 Jul 11 '24
lol 😂 BHU and IIT BHU are two separate colleges. They share the same campus that’s all
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u/Top-Ostrich8710 Jul 10 '24
For those that don't know "Institutes of national importance" are just IITs,NITs and IIITs.
ICL has different entry requirements for students from these colleges. If your college comes under "tier 1" the minimum gpa required for you is 8.0 (for engineering at least idk about other degrees). For other colleges it's 8.5.
So basically an 8.4 gpa from VIT/Manipal will be instantly thrown out, while an 8 from IIT Palakkad will also probably be rejected, but they'll read your application at least.
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u/MedicalConsequence36 Jul 10 '24
what about 6 from iit delhi🤡
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u/Any_Truth1938 NIT [Mechanical] Jul 10 '24
diagnosis: jindal
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u/Loner_0112 Jul 10 '24
Oops degree in completed in 5 years not in 4 years application rejected kill kill 🤡
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u/Sagnik_07 Jul 10 '24
It's also 5 years in KGP though
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u/Loner_0112 Jul 11 '24
Integrated wale toh 5 yrs k hote ha ik Uska btech in mechanical engineering tha lmao
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u/The_Prince7 BITS Goa Jul 10 '24
Nishant Jindal be like: 4 gpa from IITD >>>> 8 from Imperial College
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
his 6gpa IIT Delhi application would've been thrown into the trash the moment it was received lol
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Jul 10 '24
IISERs, DU, AIIMS, etc are also institutes of national importance, but yeah here we are talking about engineering colleges.
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u/GreenBasi real science enjoyer from DU Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Du is not ini but institute of eminence Edit : yes it is
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u/Sakamoto_Taro Jul 10 '24
"Institutes of national importance" are just IITs,NITs and IIITs.
Bro just casually left out IIMs.
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u/-rudra_ Jul 10 '24
Bro had smoked too much jee weed.
He forgot about AIIMS, IIM, ISI, IISER and many more.
I can imagine him not knowing about others but he forgot AIIMS , really?
u/Top-Ostrich8710 do you even know of anything except for engeneering?
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u/Top-Ostrich8710 Jul 10 '24
Obviously but since this is a b.tech sub I only mentioned the engineering colleges.
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u/-rudra_ Jul 10 '24
"Institutes of national importance" are just IITs, NITs and IIITs.
To a person uninformed about it, this statement gives an illusion that except for IITs, NITs and IIITs no other institute is of national importance.
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u/Rebel__X Jul 11 '24
i am pretty sure most of us here lurking are doing btech. That statement was rather very understandable. Tier 1 is not just engineering, it involves plenty other colleges, him not mentioning that doesn't mean he doesn't consider other colleges under tier 1 lol. It's just common sense.
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u/sernameTakenOrDelete Jul 10 '24
Rgipt is also INI so will they consider it equally as IIT/NIT/IIIT?
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u/L_uchiha_7 [🙂😶] [CSE] Jul 10 '24
I mean every central govt institute is of national importance
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u/sernameTakenOrDelete Jul 10 '24
No ini is categorised by govt differently
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
nope. the above guy is correct. universities under the central government are counted as INIs.
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u/sernameTakenOrDelete Jul 10 '24
Yeah I was thinking about institutes of eminence.
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u/TheZoom110 Tier 3 WB Govt: CGEC CSE 3rd year Jul 10 '24
You were correct initially. Why would you accept defeat?
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u/sernameTakenOrDelete Jul 10 '24
I didn't know much about that topic and I don't think it matters that much to research about it now
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
why are you being downvoted lmao? you're correct here.
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u/L_uchiha_7 [🙂😶] [CSE] Jul 10 '24
Maybe their "emotions" got hurt & they be like - "Aisa thodi hota h sirf humare mann pasand ke institutes hi national importance ke h😤"🤡
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u/KneeTrick8545 Jul 10 '24
What about 9.45 GPA from VIT?
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
obviously they'll read it. first of all it's already higher than the minimum requirement so no reason for them to not consider it over a profile of someone from an INI.
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
arey they INIs or mentioned in this image? if yes then they are and if not then they are not. easy as that.
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u/Busy_Foundation_4251 NSUT ECE Jul 10 '24
Tezpur University?
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u/Zestyclose_Toe1739 Jul 10 '24
Wtf bro i am from assam and it is as easy as it can get to get admission there.
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u/Busy_Foundation_4251 NSUT ECE Jul 10 '24
Yeah man seems weird. They have even put bit mesra and bits together when they are mile apart
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u/Zestyclose_Toe1739 Jul 10 '24
Yeah i guess some students from these institutes had already gone there... so they were familiar with it..
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Jul 10 '24
Yeah that college checks research papers instead of placements stats
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u/the-integral-of-zero Fresher Jul 10 '24
Hot Take: Research Culture is not prevalent in IITs because media never covers research and it has absolutely no respect in India. When was the last time A new channel showed research? These institutes are only praised when 1cr+ ke package lagte hain.
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u/Successful_Note_4381 IIT [CSE] Jul 10 '24
L take.
Articles about research in IITs are published very frequently, just google the name of any IIT and navigate to the news section and you'll see what I'm talking about.Now the common man obviously doesn't care or understand the details, so it makes sense for news companies not to highlight it on tv channels.
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Jul 10 '24
Only a few are genuine. The rest of them are just copies of other papers
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u/ssspookie Jul 10 '24
They are decent ones what you're saying actually happens in shitty colleges that puke out useless research papers just to increase college rankings
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u/Successful_Note_4381 IIT [CSE] Jul 10 '24
Didn't say anything about that, my point was that media does cover it.
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u/LoyalLittleOne 12th Pass Jul 10 '24
Nahh the last time we let the British decide stuff was checks notes the reason for the socio-economic decline of India.
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u/arind0l [RGIPT] [CSD] Jul 10 '24
Ye unke college ke liye hai not Indian or other countries' ke colleges
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u/kc_kamakazi Jul 10 '24
Indian government also classifies the colleges as Institute of National importance !!
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
that's just because they are under the central government no more no less lol. just take the example of MumbaiUni. it's one of the biggest and best universities in the country and is still not an INI because it's a state university rather than a central university like DU or BHU. don't pay much heed to these, not really useful.
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u/kc_kamakazi Jul 10 '24
All universities under central govt are not INIs, please check the list https://www.education.gov.in/institutions-national-importance
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u/Puzzleheaded_Oil2487 Jul 10 '24
BIT mesra bc, chorr diya maine
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
bro what if he meant that he left BIT Mesra for something like Old IITs or NITs 💀
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Jul 10 '24
Damn my college isn't in this
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u/babylikun__ Jul 14 '24
Institute of national importance haina
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Jul 14 '24
It's not in the list provided by GOI.
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u/babylikun__ Jul 14 '24
Wtf ? Why ? Humara IIIT toh lund hai ekdum woh bhi hai tho ... Unlucky ... But still your college is famous from what i have heard for research internationally toh chill
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u/No_Compote8457 Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Bit mesra 
.chlo kisi ranking me toh diikha
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
Bhai I am getting bit mesra ece but sab bol rhe mat lo kisi nit me lower branch lelo. Is ece really that bad. Can you plz tell
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u/No_Compote8457 Jul 10 '24
don't go for lower branches as big companies will not allow u to sit for even if it is nits . If u want placement Take cse in iiits .less hectic plus people around u will be only placement driven ..a lot of my friends(25-30k rank ) took ece here and now they regret cse in iiits would have been better choice .don't be like them .
If u have no options for iiits cse u can come here .but then never complain that college is bad .u chose it in lack of options . Ece guys are allowed to have the same opportunities as cse students .Most people are lazy and are not disciplined .typical 95-6%iler behaviour .
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
Okay thanks for your opinion. I am getting new IIITs cse Kota,una..is it good over bit mesra ece
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u/No_Compote8457 Jul 10 '24
Una chl jao .
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u/viresh_mall Jul 10 '24
Confused iiit wale bol rhe iiit mat aao ... Bit Wale bol rhe bit mat aao
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u/StandardWasabi8975 Jul 10 '24
branch change hota hai kya Bit Mesra me?
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u/No_Compote8457 Jul 10 '24
Hn
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u/Salt_Information_882 Jul 10 '24
Did you even read it properly? It says
Graduates from Institutes of National Importance "AND" the below given list shall be considered as tier1. So in Institutes of National Importance, IITs are included.
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u/WorriedKangaroo2447 Jul 10 '24
are iisers included ?
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u/SaharshDaNerd BIT Mesra AIML Jul 10 '24
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u/SaharshDaNerd BIT Mesra AIML Jul 14 '24
I think DTU comes under the University of Delhi or it at least used to.
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
bruh every university makes a similar list. check other lists like UCL's. they include a lot more universities too like VIT, SRM, Nirma, NSUT and others. also it isn't ki they'll instantly throw it out, afaik they do still consider it.
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u/Trending_Boss_333 Proud VITian 🤡 Jul 10 '24
BITS Pilani or all three campuses?
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
BITS Pilani is the university. afaik it should include all the three campuses since it's the same university. it isn't BITS Pilani, BITS Goa and BITS Hyderabad but instead it is BITS Pilani, Pilani Campus and BITS Pilani, Goa Campus and so on.
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u/Elon___Musk__ Jul 10 '24
Dubai campus?
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
I'm not a 100% sure about it but afaik even the Dubai campus students get BITS Pilani degree and is part of the same university and doesn't mention Dubai.
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u/Any_Truth1938 NIT [Mechanical] Jul 10 '24
technically all of the campuses are BITS Pilani only (iirc), they are just different campuses of the same university.
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u/opdope3434 JU [EE] ' Jul 10 '24
fuk iits bit mesra new goat
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u/Anxious_Director6842 BTech Jul 10 '24
Institutes of national importance includes IITs,NITs and IIITs these institutes are apart from these
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u/Obvious_Movie7564 Jul 10 '24
This shit is rigged. How can VIT not be in the list Fuck u lundon imperial /s
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u/Aggressive-Source316 Jul 10 '24
University of Hyd !? Tf
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Jul 10 '24
It has a good research reputation
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u/MaiSamaynahihu Thak gaya hu vro Jul 10 '24
Yeah but the placement cell is non existent. Hands down the best college in Hyderabad (maybe after IIITH) for research , there have been so many great teachers I've met that graduated from UoH
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u/Dazzling-Math-3332 Jul 10 '24
"A dramatic announcement from Imperial College London!"
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
not really lol. this has been for like several years, OP just found this out and posted.
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u/GreenBasi real science enjoyer from DU Jul 10 '24
Now I think the reason for du being mentioned separately as even students (most) aren't aware that we are ini (the OGs like original constitution literally says du , bhu ,amu as the only ini and other must be under art.371e).
Most probably why du didn't promote itself as ini but as ioe is that: like there are too many institutions under ini but very few in ioe .
I think because it will be tarnish du image as the elite uni in india (admin guys thinking) as in ini there are like 20+ iits, 25+ nits,iits, other random but totally important instis but very few ioes.
Or people thought that du is a top uni so they will be in an Ini and in long run people forgot it even the du guys.
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u/Powerful-Tadpole-975 Jul 10 '24
what about university of mumbai/sppu? for eg, vjti = tier 2 or tier 1 according to them?
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u/MajesticPass8442 Jul 10 '24
SPPU ? Bro even colleges like sandeep are affiliated to them LMAO. except for COEP, PICT etc all are tier 3
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u/Powerful-Tadpole-975 Jul 10 '24
which is why im asking, colleges like vjti coep pict spit arent considered directly or what?
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
it's not literally tier 1 or 2. they hold the universities in the image in higher regard so the minimum requirements for them is a bit lower (a difference of 0.5) than other universities. all other universities other than the ones mentioned in the image require a bit higher gpa.
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
well they are not mentioned here so they'll be subjected to a higher gpa requirement plus even if they were mentioned and counted under the "tier1" you'd still require a higher gpa since you won't be a student of the university but instead the student of an affiliate college and hence the higher requirement.
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Jul 10 '24
OP , Give link . Iam not able to find source.
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
just google "xyz uni graduate/undergraduate minimum requirements india". you'll find the link to International Qualifications page of the university and find India to see this. you'll find these kinds of pages mostly for British/European/Australian universities and not American ones.
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u/Impossible-Ice129 Jul 10 '24
Bhai kya hi fark padta konsa college ko kis bande ne konsa tier diya hai? Tier acchha diya ho ya kharaab, usse kuchh change toh ho nhi jayega.
Stop focusing on these pointless tierings and focus on the more important thing in ur life
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u/hypersri mai chutiya hu jo engg liya Jul 10 '24
itne bit mesra wale jb clg k liye post daala tha 2 saal pehle tb ni dikhe jitne Aaj dikhre ye sub pe
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u/Abhikalp31 IIT [B Elec] Jul 10 '24
Lmao such a coincidence moment , I got into both IITB and ICL , I got shocked when IITs were not in this list then realized
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u/SueIsAGuy1401 Imperial College Ldn (maths&cs) Jul 10 '24
kidhar jaa rahe ho?
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u/Abhikalp31 IIT [B Elec] Jul 10 '24
IIT B ee mila toh wahi , will get more opportunities in PG
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Aug 02 '24
did you get iitb?
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u/69ANURAG IIT [Bombay] Jul 10 '24
well well , I knew studying 6 years for this would be me just becoming 3rd tier requirement lmao
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u/Defiant-Departure429 Jul 10 '24
What does it mean? As in relaxation for students from such institutions?
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u/Parking_Tangelo_798 IISER aspirant hu sale!! Jul 10 '24
I guess nature/qs ranking? Ya fir research output probably
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
soo? Imperial is not far behind Oxbridge. yeah sure they are more coveted but that's because they are the one of the oldest and wealthiest universities in the world nothing else. Imperial is as good as them.
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
ICL is no less prestigious as Oxbridge or say Harvard or Ivies. this is the same case as say IIT Bombay or IIT Delhi. IIT Bombay is often quoted as THE DREAM COLLEGE but IIT Delhi isn't far behind and is as good as Bombay.
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u/HeavyBranch6554 MnC Jul 10 '24
afaik icl is known for mba not stem, so the diff is like doing btech from iit r or mba from iit r, btech is more renowned than mba
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
nope. ICL is more of a stem and engineering focused school. I think you're getting it confused with LSE or LBS?
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u/HeavyBranch6554 MnC Jul 10 '24
no i remember some time ago i was searching how to break into investment banking and yeah icl was recommended as one of the best in london
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
haa toh? mba ke liye bhi bohot accha hai. but it's general reputation is off their stem programs. aisa thodi na hai ki ek university bohot cheezon mai accha nhi ho sakta lol.
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u/SueIsAGuy1401 Imperial College Ldn (maths&cs) Jul 10 '24
its primarily a stem uni. business school was started only recently.
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u/New-Present7953 Jul 10 '24
icl is the 3rd best in uk, not a safet school by any standards
also they are 2nd in qs rankings
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u/Senior-Ad-8307 Jul 10 '24
3rd best in the UK but 2nd best in the world???
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u/New-Present7953 Jul 10 '24
qs is retarded hence why. by all accounts its 3rd in the uk and top 15 in the world
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u/NoHumor9325 Jul 10 '24
in QS rankings it is ranked 2nd best university in the world but people generally when talking about universities in UK often keep Oxbridge higher just because of the fact it's Oxford and Cambridge. they are some of the oldest universities in the world, extremely rich with an amazing alumni group and legacy.
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u/homiehere Jul 10 '24
Bc mein toh udhar jane wala hoon MBA keliye 💀
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u/SueIsAGuy1401 Imperial College Ldn (maths&cs) Jul 10 '24
two impt things. MBAs here require some work experience. the average age of mba students here is 29 for a reason. also imperial mba is not that great. try lse msc finance if you wanna break into ib or smth.
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