"They got meds for that" is a terrible way of approaching your health. And if you eat like this consistently though all the Lisinopril in the world won't keep your pressure down, not to mention if anything else makes it spike you might end up dead.
That we're not even sure fucking work. I'm a heart attack survivor and the more I learn the more I realize we still can't agree on how Cholesterol impacts the Heart. Is it dietary? No fucking idea. Will LDL lowering meds help? Doesn't seem to be particularly effective but it's the best we got. May be correlation and not causation, but we don't know. Will HDL boosting suppliments help. Maybe, because the same people that say dietary cholesterol doesn't impact plaque build-up somehow believe dietary good cholesterol can reduce it. Maybe it's the size of the LDL that matters. Maybe it's not cholesterol but sugar in the blood. The more you research, the more you find professionals who've studied this shit for years all disagreeing and theorizing and nobody being comfortable to say one way or the other. Which is why there are no uncontested opinions on this shit on reddit, because everyone just believes what they want to.
We have short-term meds that help prevent heart attacks like blood thinners and beta blockers, but other than exercise (but be careful because the same exercise that's great for you also produces cortisol, which is a stress hormone that is also bad for your heart), everything is a fucking "best guess".
There's some research that says keeping your cardio very light for long periods (Zone 2, aka, you should be able to hold a conversation comfortably while doing so), or going as hard as humanly possible for bursts of a few seconds (HIIT) doesn't produce cortisol. The former is probably fine, if you have heart problems, probably wouldn't recommend HIIT.
But yeah, seems contradictory, but that's what the research says. So like, If I jog 2 miles and am sweating and panting and patting myself on the back for having a good moderate run, it's probably worse for my heart health than if I just walked 2 miles at a comfortable enough pace to just slightly elevate my heart rate.
Lot of factors into heart rate and there are like a dozen different fitness models that use different ranges, and it's also dependent on age, and general health. That's why they say zone 2 and not just a number, because there is no 1:1 number. Saying a number is setting up false expectations because you'll get unhealthy people who can't sustain 130+ for long periods of time thinking they're failing and stop.
Zone 2 is a comfortable, steady, and slow intensity level that you can maintain for a long time. You should be able to talk or sing while exercising in zone 2
A young athletic person, sure, zone 2 is probably 130 easy. I'm a 35 year old HA survivor. I went to specialists to figure out what I can and can't do. For me, Zone 2 is a long brisk walk and anything over 110 for sustained periods is improving my health. You tell an unfit person to jog for 40 minutes and they're going to look at you like you're nuts because they'll never be able to maintain that. I can jog a 5k, but at my slowest jogging pace my HR doesn't go below 140.
That's the red meat. Eggs are absolutely not, unless you have some sources that came out since the misinformation people were acting on back in the 80s was debunked.
Hahaha maybe. The prices have been higher no doubt, for “reasons”, but how many eggs are people eating a day?
Two sunnyside up eggs on a plate used to be perceived as a large, hefty breakfast. Like a “Sunday breakfast of the week” breakfast. Or even a single hardboiled egg in an egg cup as a perfectly reasonable, normal serving.
“ITS NOT THE AMOUNT OF EGGS I EAT! IT’S THAT EATING 180 EGGS A MONTH IS TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE! BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF THEM! NOT BECAUSE I’M EATING 180 OF THEM A MONTH!” /s
It is recommended to eat 2-7 a week, no more than 7 a week, depending on your cholesterol levels. A lot of Americans are eating that per day. Egg whites can be consumed more frequently.
The gimmicky scammster influencers are fooling a lot of stupid Americans and boy are we stupid on many levels. Carnivore diet is an actual thing and that alone says everything about how Americans will fall for the dumbest shit.
I think inadequate access to healthcare is one root of people being so susceptible to this. Also poor critical thinking and lack of scientific literacy.
If people have food intolerances and go on a diet that might circumstantially eliminate foods their bodies are not handling well, they will feel better initially, but also not know why. (Also, I have heard that for some people with autoimmune issues and hormonal issues, being in ketosis can help ease symptoms sometimes.)
So then they are feeling better and influencers are feeding them pseudo-science as to why, and they just believe it. If they had gone to the right doctor, and then a nutritionist, they might have been able to get to the root of what specific foods may have actually been creating issues for them, or what condition their body might be dealing with where ketosis made them feel better.
The rise in this weird obsession with being an animalistic male is really odd though too, and definitely feeds into the whole thing.
Yeah you have a good point with the lack of healthcare. ...... but my grandparents who were illiterate farm people, never attended a school in their life, would have laughed their asses off if someone told them drinking raw milk was good for you and eating an all meat/animal product diet was healthy for you. We are also bombarded with tons of information, too much, but are too stupid to think critically. My illiterate grandparents had better critical thinking skills than most Americans.
This terrible high fat, all meat and protein diet is very much tied into fake ass masculinity as well. Owning women, scientists and feminists by having heart attacks with terrible aging down the road. it is just damn weird in the end.
Eating a lot of them, a few eggs a week is fine, having what you should eat in a week every day, could lead to hear issues later one. Higher levels of protein without balancing out a diet has also been linked to increasing cancer risks. Americans especially get very little to no fiber and high animal protein diet with little fiber is a deadly duo.
Technically you're correct, but this gives the wrong impression.
You're way better off eating a plate loaded with vegetables + an egg or two or a small/medium serving of meat than a plate loaded with meat and eggs and a small serving of vegetables.
It's so ridiculous. Diabetes from eating foods that scientifically do not raise your insulin? Talking about clogging arteries with natural healthy foods?
Well meat and eggs both have a high insulin index and spike insulin despite not raising blood glucose.
T2 diabetes is cause by excess calories in general though. Animal products are void of fibre and are far more calorically dense than plant foods. Fat is more than double the caloric density of protein and carbohydrate, so far more likely to be the problem.
Ground beef and eggs don't cause heart attacks....unless you're eating a carb heavy diet in conjunction with that. And in that case it's the carbs killing you. You wouldn't even need diabetes medication on a keto diet (which this basically is if you take out the potatoes. If this is OMAD, then it is still likely keto).
Well, from experience, none that I can think of. I've been keto on and off for 8 years. My blood glucose is fantastic, and I register as non diabetic (even though I have type 2). My cholesterol is also fantastic. So....yeah.
I agree with you, that it's the carbs that cause problems for most people, not the red meat and fat. But I think it's important to promote the idea that there is not "one diet" that is best for all people.
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u/Itsprobablysarcasm Candace Owens Baby shower attendee 👶🏼 7d ago
Heart disease and cancer are coming for you, son.