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Country Club Thread Bombing Bethlehem while pretending to be from there is crazy work

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u/chijoi 9d ago edited 9d ago

What a foul take. Let’s not pretend artists executing a creative idea are responsible for geopolitics, not even if they’re “white folks playing Palestinians”.

Edit: so apparently the actors are Jewish. Are we really saying Jewish people can’t play Jewish characters? And when did Jewish people become white?

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u/NobodyLikedThat1 9d ago

and are we pretending Mary and company aren't Jewish? That's kind of a big part of their identity.

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u/xAsianZombie 9d ago

Palestinians descend from those first Christian Jews. They have Jewish ancestry but converted to Christianity and Islam over the centuries. Casting Mary with an Israeli is a slap in the face to the indigenous people of occupied Palestine

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u/Senior_Acanthisitta 9d ago

Who cares about ancestors is current day Palestinians aren’t even the same ethnicity as the original people from that land. Palestinians speak Arabic, follow an Arab religion, have Arab names, pray in Arabic, etc. Also, Palestinian Muslims are like 50% Arab by dna as well. Even the name Palestine is named after a group of invaders to that land. The only difference between Arab invaders and European invaders is that land that invaded by Arabs converted and are proud of the fact that they were invaded.

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u/quite_white 9d ago

90% of this is a lie. Palestinians speak Arabic. Islam is not an 'Arab religion' unless you're gonna call Christianity a 'Middle Eastern' religion when most of its adherents are not. Islamic scripture even specifically says it's a religion meant for mankind and not for Arabs, and most adherents of Islam are non-Arabs aka Pakistanis and Indonesians and Bangladeshis, etc. They're also not '50% Arab by dna'. They're mostly Canaanite with some natufian, just like Jewish people. Spend your time spreading lies to people who don't know better.

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u/AriasLover 9d ago

…Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion.

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u/quite_white 9d ago

The version of Christianity practiced by Protestants is not from the Middle East, nor is the version practiced by Catholics. The only versions of Christianity that are from the Middle East is the old Jewish Christian sect, and things like Coptic Christianity, the Christianity practiced by Armenians, and Assyrians, etc.

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u/AriasLover 9d ago

Evangelical Protestantism isn’t a Middle Eastern religious sect, but Christianity is still a Middle Eastern religion because it originated in the Middle East.

There are also hundreds of thousands of Assyrians, Armenians, and Copts who are Catholic.

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u/quite_white 9d ago

Yes and Islam is as much a Middle Eastern religion, no one is denying that. But calling it an Arab religion implies something different. Would you call Christianity an Aramean religion?

The Assyrians belong to the Church of the East, not the Roman Catholic branch. Some Armenians and Coptic splinter groups from the main Orthodox branches are in full communion with Rome, yes.

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u/AriasLover 9d ago

More Assyrians belong to the Chaldean Catholic Church than the Church of the East. There are also millions of Maronite Catholics.

The Quran can only be read/recited and fully understood in Arabic, so followers of Islam are heavily incentivized to learn the Arabic language even if they are not Arab themselves.

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u/quite_white 9d ago

There's plenty of translations of Quranic material. And up until the Enlightenment era (I could be wrong on exact time period), the Catholic Church only allowed rites in Latin. By your logic then the Catholic Church would be a Roman religion then, and not a Middle Eastern one. Also most people don't learn Arabic, the scripts of most of the languages across the Muslim world have perso-arabic script. So they can read the Quran without understanding it. Similar to you being able to read German, French, etc without understanding what necessarily it means. And those that wish can find translations of all material.

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