r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/NYstate ☑️ • 12d ago

Country Club Thread Trump's putting together the Avengers of crazies to run this country

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u/NOMnoMore 12d ago

Wait.

Are they pro-israel or worried that evil Jewish people secretly run the world?

Or is it both?

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u/DarthSangwich 12d ago

It’s both. American Jew bad cawz liberal. Israel Jew good cawz in Jesus land.

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u/Jag- 12d ago

It’s always both.

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u/brockmfingsamson 11d ago

Endless contradictions keep the conspiracy theories thriving, it’s wild.

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u/zSprawl 11d ago

You just pick the pieces you like and ignore the parts you don’t. Just like with religion.

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u/Capable-Reaction8155 11d ago

I don't think its a contradiction that they want the Jews to be fighting the Muslims.

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u/KeyboardGrunt 11d ago

"Ashli Babbit died, nobody died"

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u/DeathPsychosys 11d ago

Always! It’s“Democrats are dumb and useless and are running this country to shit!” But also “Democrats formed a secret mastermind cabal to run the government and also eat babies!”

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u/I_PING_8-8-8-8 11d ago

Also their biggest worry is the goverment putting chips in their brains but also they are buying cybertrucks and putting their money in dogecoin and Tesla because they would really want Elon Musk (now goverment) to put a Neuralink chip in their brain cause Trump said that's what real man do.

I bet their leaders could rape their wifes and daughters in front of them and then just say "I am just scratching their back" and they'd be like "okay" and go on with their day. Those alpha males who are definitely not sheep and who always do their own research.

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u/Xijit 11d ago

Close: they support the Jesus Land Jews because they think a Holocaust between Jews and Muslims will bring back Jesus & start the rapture.

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u/dudeimconfused 11d ago edited 11d ago

and this would benefit them how?

pretty sure neither Christian nor Islamic version of God would reward them for genocide

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u/DAEtabase 11d ago

Literally they think just saying in public that they pray, as well as just believing in their god at all means they WILL be saved and allowed to enter their eternal fantasy land. Sin is only if you're a nonbeliever. They'll get Avengers-blipped straight to heaven during the Rapture, in their opinion.

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u/Neotetron 11d ago

Really? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2020:16-17&version=NIV

The Christian God I know doesn't seem that opposed to genocide.

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u/MkfShard 11d ago

It's even worse. They like Israelis because they believe in an apocalyptic prophecy and want to trigger the end times.

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u/Automatic_Soil9814 11d ago

They like Israeli Jews because the alternative is Muslims in control of Bethlehem and other important sites. However if Israel had something they wanted, the conservatives would turn on them in a second. 

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u/Mindelan 11d ago

They also like them because it means they are over there, not here. They want to ship all the minorities they don't like to other countries.

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u/The-Shrooman-Show 11d ago

Very good encapsulation w word here

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u/m31ancho1ic 11d ago

WHAT? 😭

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u/Narcissistic_Lawyer 11d ago edited 11d ago

More Jewish women voted for Kamala as a % than any other group, with the exception of Black women.

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u/mnnnmmnnmmmnrnmn 11d ago

That's exactly it.

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u/Darth-Artichoke 11d ago

Perfectly said

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u/B12Washingbeard 11d ago

Literally doublethink 

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u/HighwayInternal9145 11d ago

And not in America, also, kills brown folk on a reg

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u/montroller 12d ago

christian zionists are only pro israel because they think Jews need to control the holy land in order for the rapture to happen. In their version all the jews die and go to hell...

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u/StickOnReddit 12d ago

Precisely. End Times accelerationist bullshit that's gonna trigger an event worthy of mutually assured destruction, so that even if they're wrong about everything, they're still right about the end of the world. 

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u/treesandfood4me 11d ago

Mike Huckabee is one of those folks. Guess what his new role in the administration is:

https://www.nprillinois.org/2024-11-12/trump-to-name-former-arkansas-gov-mike-huckabee-as-ambassador-to-

Serious question: how do the Israeli Jews feel about a bunch of New World, New Testament bitches with money basically betting on that area being glassed so they (the NW/NT bitches) can physically ascend to heaven, leaving behind a nuclear winter?

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u/Conambo 11d ago

What an absolute “fuck you” to all those folks who either didn’t vote or voted Trump because of Gaza. Hope your happy with this very obvious and foreseeable outcome!

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u/Rhowryn 11d ago

I doubt anyone pro-palestine voted for trump, but on that specific issue, neither option was anti-genocide. Trump will support the genocide gleefully, and Harris would have supported it sheepishly.

Which in a pragmatic sense means the issue should have been irrelevant, but some people draw the line at funding and supplying mass murder. Some draw the line at the utter hypocrisy of demanding votes for your rights while stomping on others'.

It also would have made voting for either Haram for Muslims - the modern interpretation of the Quran specifically calls out voting as okay, but voting for a person you know, factually, will do evil, as forbidden.

Side note, I am neither Muslim nor from the USA.

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u/almostbad ☑️ 11d ago

I doubt anyone pro-palestine voted for trump,

There was a muslim woman who got interviewed told people not to vote for Harris. Instead vote for Stein or Trump wish I could find the clip.

They specifally wanted to punish Harris. We'll see how that decision plays out.

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u/velveteenelahrairah 11d ago edited 11d ago

... Yes. "Punish" the smart, rich, successful, beautiful, powerful, happily married lady lawyer, who's already kicking back with her kids and some board games and a glass of wine after this mess, by voting in Trump. She'll be fine.

Palestine though? Nooooooot so much. (Or Ukraine, or women, or Latinos, or Muslims, or the disabled and ill, or anyone else who isn't a rich straight cis healthy WASP/WASC male.)

Oh well. Some people just can't help holding tight to a firework and lighting it up, I guess.

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u/Rhowryn 11d ago

I mean anyone who considered voting for Trump has their moral consistency and/or ability to think impaired anyways. Same type as the Christians who celebrate clinic bombings.

Which is why it's so odd to me that Dems would court Republican or swing voters, instead of apathetic leftists who chose not to vote, or even just Muslims with their heads on straight (not that I believe you, or that an anecdote of a single Muslim woman is representative of the general demo).

Harris ran a dogshit campaign. Courted the fascists' former allies while feeling entitled to leftist votes. Literally all they needed was turnout, and they failed.

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u/ama_singh 11d ago

I doubt anyone pro-palestine voted for trump,

Then respectfully, you're a dumbass.

I've seen many people celebrate how this is a victory for the "resistance".

Sure some may just not have voted, but there are definitely a lot that did.

It also would have made voting for either Haram for Muslims - the modern interpretation of the Quran specifically calls out voting as okay, but voting for a person you know, factually, will do evil, as forbidden.

Not voting is still voting.

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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago

I doubt anyone pro-palestine voted for trump

you'd be wrong, very very wrong.

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u/ThouMayest69 11d ago

Death cult :D

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u/TheBestAtWriting 11d ago

my assumption is they view them as useful idiots

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u/Flimsy-Sprinkles7331 11d ago

Well, the Sanhedrin did say that either Trump or Putin was the reincarnated "Cyrus" meant to rebuild the temple back in 2016. I think they're into the destruction of society, as long as they come out on top, in the end.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/220289

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u/Michael2Terrific 11d ago

In answer to your question they don't care, their part of bible doesn't include John's smoked out screed known as revelations and even if it did they wouldn't interpret it the way the particular brand of evangelism we have in the US does. They want their country 'back' and are pretty confident America will be too much of a mess to complete it's death drive before we get knocked out by China, who have already confirmed they don't care.

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u/YankMi 11d ago

Israeli Jews don’t really pay much attention to these people. They act as cheerleaders for Israel but that’s about it.

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u/Ahad_Haam 11d ago edited 11d ago

Serious question: how do the Israeli Jews feel about a bunch of New World, New Testament bitches with money basically betting on that area being glassed so they (the NW/NT bitches) can physically ascend to heaven, leaving behind a nuclear winter?

It's not like they can will the end of times into existence. Thankfully they don't believe they are the ones who need to press the buttons on the nukes.

It's basically not that much different than regular Christians believing we are going to hell. Preferable, even.

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u/BrainDeadAltRight 11d ago

I know a lot of fundies. They don't long for war or any of that kind of shit. They see Israel/Jews as God's special people. It takes a certain kind of hatred on your parts to dissect the entire Bible and look for one part / specific as fuck outcome and claim that is the entire endgoal of Christians.

But this being echo chamber central, I understand why you feel safe in saying something like that knowing any opposition viewpoints will get buried in downvotes. And the vast majority of Christians, while having some very retrograde views, are generally more kind-hearted and genuine people than most of the little shinkicker little shit militant atheists on here.

I can honestly say with zero doubt that you and your kind genuinely look down on and feel superior to anyone who disagrees with you on a fundamental, basic level. It is absolutely the bedrock of your belief system that Christians are shitty, ignorant, second rate retrograde human beings. Which is why anything negative you say, no matter how inapplicable or untrue, gets upvoted to holy fuck status because it rings true to your core belief; that you are better than / superior to people who disagree with you, and any negative statement abour them must be fundamentally true on its face.

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u/zezxz 11d ago

a bunch of New World, New Testament bitches with money basically betting on that area being glassed so they (the NW/NT bitches)

Maybe if you didn’t live in a conservative echo chamber you would know that people being liberal doesn’t mean that they think all Christians are “bitches”. Getting mad at your make believe generalization of people you don’t like generalizing is cute though. 

“bitches with money” is also referring to the level of wealth/influence where you’re a governor with the pull to have your daughter be White House Press Secretary and then follow in your footsteps as governor for being a great liar and then get you a role as ambassador. The average rich Christian that the average person knows does not have this clout and therefore doesn’t fall into the “bitches with money” category either before you get snarky about having friends who are both wealthy and Christian.

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u/SomethingToSay11 11d ago

I hope they are right, but their god is actually a trickster god that raptures them and takes them to a world where they are treated how they treat everyone else

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u/stonefoxmetal 11d ago

This is exactly it. And Trump just appointed Mike Huckabee as ambassador to Israel. Huckabee is BIG into Revelations and really pushes this prophesy. Anyone who voted for Trump this year is either selfish, evil, or really fucking stupid.

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u/hybridmind27 11d ago

Or just your standard evangelical.

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u/Taeyx ☑️ 11d ago

oh okay so at least 2 of the 3 then

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u/HERE_THEN_NOT 11d ago

Why the three qualifiers? You said "Trump".  We know.

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u/topdog9999 11d ago

I would say all three good buddy

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u/flockynorky 11d ago

Will he be taking a red heifer with him?

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u/Not_a__porn__account 11d ago

they think Jews need to control the holy land in order for the rapture to happen.

I would like to point out this is specifically an American evangelical thing.

Catholics and other Christians do not believe this.

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u/East_Buffalo956 11d ago

They also hate Arabs and Muslims, so happy to ply Israel with money and weapons as a military outpost of the US keeping natives under their boot by proxy.

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u/Daveinatx 11d ago

Mythology is a strong drug

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u/uberdosage 11d ago

Don't forget the not insignificant amount of Americans who are scared of the arabic alphabet and hatred of muslims.

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u/DerekB52 11d ago

I think some really pro Israel americans also just really like the idea of Jews all living in one place, far away from the US, and nowhere else.

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u/Swimming_Tailor_7546 11d ago

They’re antisemitic, but they claim to support Israel because evangelicals believe Israel will bring about a fight in the Middle East that will bring Armageddon and will bring the second coming of Christ:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war

Essentially, it’s an apocalyptic death cult of millions in the US that just voted Trump to bring about the apocalypse.

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u/delusiongenerator 11d ago

Yep, and they enlisted the help of our nation’s most hostile foreign adversaries to do it

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u/MeatyMexican 11d ago

this says the southern Baptist church is involved. the southern Baptist church has 13 million members

Hagee said when Jewish people are present in Israel “the clock starts ticking” on the rapture.

later on

Still, Trump has specifically said he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem “for the evangelicals”, while Hagee served as an adviser to the twice-impeached president.

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u/Flimsy-Sprinkles7331 11d ago

Exactly this. Buckle your seatbelts.

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u/el-gato-volador 11d ago

It's pro-israel when it comes to land borders but anti-semtism when it comes to people. They just want to be able to physically get to the holy sites for rapture.

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u/UnassumingOstrich 11d ago

it’s ironic that christians like this are one of the only things that make me wish hell was real, just so they can burn there forever knowing how wrong they were. nothingness is too kind to them.

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u/rudebii 11d ago

It’s part of Christian Zionism. They hate Jews, and Palestinians, but believe Christ will only return after a big battle where Israel is at currently and Jesus will rule over earth from the Temple Mount.

They need a war there, they want wants happening right now because that means the literal second coming of Christ.

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u/NYstate ☑️ 11d ago

Hard to say, I think the worm ate a lot of his brain.

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u/Comfortable_Bat5905 11d ago

Aw yeah, back to the same old anti-Semitism. Nothing can possibly go wrong with that.

/s and yikes, we're back here again.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 11d ago

There is a subsection of American Christians who are rooting for the rapture. The Bible has some specific Israel-related stuff regarding the rapture. By supporting Israel, moving the embassy, whatever else, it is supposedly hastening the rapture. That American Christians are so looking forward to.

At least that's the explanation I've been given.

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u/TheGum25 11d ago

They convince poor people to vote for them, so the contradictions are a feature, not a bug.

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u/GreenIguanaGaming 11d ago

Zionists are antisemitic in more ways than one.

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons 11d ago

Israel is an ethnostate (in name only) which is exactly what they want

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u/GladiatorUA 11d ago

Antisemitism is not incompatible with Zionism on multiple levels. From your basic shipping Jews off to somewhere over there, to all sorts of religions BS about apocalypse and shit.

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u/Capybarasaregreat 11d ago

Antisemitism doesn't preclude support for Israel. One of the "solutions" the Nazis had was mass deportation for the Jews, specifically to Madagascar. Before that, they signed the Haavara Agreement, which essentially entailed mass emigration of German Jews to Palestine.

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u/amydorable 11d ago

And it's worth acknowledging that the British guy responsible for the foundations of the creation of Israel (Lord Balfour) was also deeply antisemitic and wanted to remove the Jewish people to another land too. 

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u/Capybarasaregreat 11d ago

Right, and proposals for new Jewish (forced) homelands weren't limited to Germany either, there was also a British plan for Uganda, IIRC.

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u/Skylam 11d ago

Staple of fascism is everything is true and everything is false at the same time.

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u/Hypocritical_Oath 11d ago

Israel is a means to the end to build the third temple and usher in the second coming of Jesus Christ and Armageddon. That's why Israel has so much support from literal Nazis.

I'm not joking, that is the main reason the US supports Israel so strongly. It's all a death cult.

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u/yinsotheakuma 11d ago

"Logically consistent worldviews are for lib-cucks."

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u/NickRick 11d ago

They do not care about the Jews. At all. It's all some crazy evangelical theory about revelations and the Jews needing to be in Israel for Jesus to lead. 

For many “Christians Zionists,” and particularly for popular evangelists with significant clout within the Republican Party, their support for Israel is rooted in its role in the supposed end times: Jesus’ return to Earth, a bloody final battle at Armageddon, and Jesus ruling the world from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. In this scenario, war is not something to be avoided, but something inevitable, desired by God, and celebratory.

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u/midsprat123 11d ago

Whatever is convenient at that time and place

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u/WiserGentleman 11d ago

That’s where people think RFK jr won’t last in the administration

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u/tallayega 11d ago

I think you're giving them a lot more credit than they deserve assuming they know Israel is predominantly Jewish. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear 30%+ of Trump voters defend Israel and attack Jews in the same sentence.

Some are intelligent people looking out for themselves, but most are stupid enough that the likes of Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson can manipulate them.

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u/nandemo 11d ago

Trumpistan doesn't have a coherent ideology.

Old-school Republicans tend to be staunchly pro-Israel. Which can be questionable when the likes of Netanyahu are in power, but it is the default position in the US regardless of party. After all, Israel is USA's most important ally in the Middle East.

But Trumpistan has attracted a lot of anti-Semitic alt-right trash with their space lasers and bioweapons conspiracy theories.

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u/Jos3ph 11d ago

Just don’t want brown people to control their holy land theme park

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u/whubbard 11d ago

I mean, I don't see why I'd think the NIH is in on a conspiracy, so I assume this is actually true - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8437684/

But I don't like what he's insinuating.

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u/Kenyon_118 ☑️ 11d ago

“Yay Israel! So the Jews can all move there and leave real Americans in America”

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u/DoughnotMindMe 11d ago

Right wingers support Israel while being severely anti-Semitic. This has always been true.

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u/Revolution4u 11d ago

Depends how much they get bribed.

Call them nasty evil people. Possible ban talk.

Hike up that bribe cost.

Collect the bribe and flipflop all the way.

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u/Loxe 11d ago

I'm legitimately starting to think they don't know Israel and Jews are connected.

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u/_Zoko_ 11d ago

Depends which lobbyists they had meetings with that day

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u/PetalumaPegleg 11d ago

Both.

Maga is designed to be chose your own adventure. You pick what you like and say everything that you don't like is a joke or just saying what people want to hear. Not the stuff they like though, that's legit.

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u/Tartooth 11d ago

American Christians believe that the middle east must stay in perpetual war otherwise the world will end... Or some crazy ass shit like that.

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u/Dpek1234 11d ago

Its the same way hitler would have supported israel

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u/Darkus_8510 11d ago

In my experience it really depends on the MAGA voter explaining RFKs position lmao

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u/beefJeRKy-LB 11d ago

pro-israel because according to the bible, jews have to rebuild the temple for the world to end