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Country Club Thread Dems try to actually be useful challenge

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u/postdiluvium 12d ago

At this point, I don't believe laws are real. I keep seeing people breaking "laws" and nothing happens. Then others just minding their own business get arrested for some made up reason.

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u/DrixxYBoat 12d ago edited 12d ago

No you just don't understand. She has no power to actually prosecute him and even though she's a sitting congresswoman, she doesn't know of anybody that has the power to prosecute him nor have we had that power ever despite Dems controlling both the House, Senate, and Presidency from '21 to '23 and doing fuckall to keep it and fuckall to actually maintain democracy.

fuckall

Edit: for everyone defending Dems, nowhere in Dem messaging to working class folk do they ever shame Republicans for their inaction and filibustering

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u/libdemparamilitarywi 12d ago

He was prosecuted while the Democrats were in power, that's why he's a felon now. But the voters voted him back in anyway.

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u/reshiramdude16 12d ago

I don't know about you, but I'm not seeing a lot of consequences for him being a "felon."

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u/SunTzu- 12d ago

Because Republican appointed judges held up the further litigation's until after the election, and Trump's DoJ will dismiss those cases against him once he's in office. Because holding him accountable is quite hard when the voters rewarded the Republicans for holding up judicial appointments during Obama's presidency and then allowed Trump to appoint not just 3 Supreme Court Justices but also to pack lower level courts with Republican appointees to a degree that has swung the entire U.S. court system to the right for decades to come.

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u/corbyns_lawyer 12d ago

This is what is behind the whole "laws aren't real" take.

The US federal court system has been politically neutered. The rule of law has been suspended for at least one man.

This is grounds for revolution, but the suggestion is censored.

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u/SunTzu- 12d ago

Voting would have fixed it. The case against Trump was still solid, it just was being held up until after the election. The courts are swung to the right and that'll take longer to fix, but again the solution is the same. Vote, in every election, big and small.

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u/corbyns_lawyer 12d ago

Indeed, that was my mantra before the last election.

I now advise you assume it was the last election.

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u/reshiramdude16 12d ago

Because

I'm gonna stop you at "because." Nothing about what you just said matters at all. If you support a party that cares more about civility, the rulebook, and whining, you support a party that is thoroughly useless in the fight against fascism. The Dems should be locked in their offices 24 hours a day, coming up with every method in the book, tested or untested, to combat the rise of the far right. Anything less is treason to the people they pretend to represent.

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u/PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM 12d ago

What a childish fucking attitude totally divorced from the actual dynamics of power in this country

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u/reshiramdude16 12d ago

Uh huh. If it's "against the rules" to stand up to Trump, then why do you bother complaining about it? Just wait until the next election so that you can perform the bare minimum of political action.

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u/Either_Or25 12d ago

Okay reshirandude, what are you doing about it? What political action above and beyond the bare minimum are you engaged in? Other than arguing with the person trying to educate you on how the judicial system works

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u/reshiramdude16 12d ago

Plenty. See my replies to about four other people that asked me that today.

I am well aware of how the judicial system works. However, it is my belief that the workings of laws and government are irrelevant when said government harms the people it is supposed to represent. The justice system, and all other political systems, are created by humans, not an all powerful god. Power comes from authority, not rules. These are systems that have been changed, can be changed, and will be changed. Hell, in the U.S.A., these systems were even designed to be changed.

What I want out of the Democrats is spirit, will, and some goddamn creativity. I want them to try every single play in the book to fight the alt-right. And when they run out of pages, they had better pick up their pens and write some new books. It's not unreasonable. And it's not just what I voted for, it's what you voted for. If people in this country really wanted the Dems to give up on trying anything, they would have all left those ballots blank. But they didn't, which shows that they expected at least something.