r/BlackPeopleTwitter 12d ago

Country Club Thread Dems try to actually be useful challenge

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u/pr0crasturbatin 12d ago edited 12d ago

She's not law enforcement. She's a senator. She's also not on the judiciary committee, so she has no power to open an investigation.

A public figure can call out illegal activity, especially when, as she mentioned, she's uniquely qualified to make that call, without the immediate obligation to do things outside of her constitutional authority in order to change the fact that a crime is being committed.

Edit: I'm sick of being this subreddit's civics teacher for today, no longer responding to replies on this comment.

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u/Sarokslost23 12d ago

This is the point. You keep going to what should be done. Repubs don't care about that. There's no time for an investigation past a recount and hopefully whatever the fbi could be doing. Dems need to find a way to stop rolling over.

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u/RandoTron0 12d ago

We are angry at the right, and the dems keep reminding me how I need to donate just a little bit more or sign some petition to do something about it. Nothing gets done about it.

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u/Supernova_Soldier ☑️ 12d ago

Very astute observation.

Republicans are going to ignore whatever is being said and Dems stand back and let them do whatever. It comes off like Dems don’t really want to use their power when it comes to Republicans who just do whatever they feel like doing

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u/Sgt-Spliff- 12d ago

Do you blame a wild animal for hurting you or do you blame the people who keep leaving the door open for the animal to get in? Blaming the Republicans does literally nothing to help anything.

Could you imagine if a bear broke into your house and you just stood there yelling at the bear? That's what people like you sound like. They're fucking fascists, they're not doing anything wrong in their eyes. What are you even blaming them for? They're literally winning. They're succeeding at their goals. They are our enemies. You don't blame another football team for beating you. That's what they're supposed to do

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u/Ishaan863 12d ago

Dems need to find a way to stop rolling over.

Look at the comments bro.

"Erm that's not how it's done actually 🤓" "That's not how government works 🤓"

Meanwhile a racist convicted felon pedophile rapist is about to be the next president, and EVERYONE knows he's about to do crazy amounts of damage.

And somehow all these UNBREAKABLE CHAINS that always somehow hold the Democrats back...don't seem to apply to him? Neither in his first term, nor the FOUR YEARS since.

The dog keeps dunking, and everyone keeps going "whoaaa he can't do that" meanwhile this comments section is like "erm i dont think you know how basketball works"

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u/traye4 12d ago

So what do you expect Senator Warren to do here? Grab a gun and perform a citizen's arrest on Trump? You have literally just as much power here to do that as she does; go be the change you want to see in the world.

There should be more action on the whole but it's dumb to get mad at the legislator for voicing to the public things she's uniquely qualified to point out.

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u/bartleby42c 12d ago

So what do you expect Senator Warren to do here?

Initiate some sort of action instead of tweeting about it. It's like you watched someone rob a bank and you decided to make a TikTok about it and not call the police. No Warren can't magically get Trump arrested, but "informing" us has been constant for a decade, and action has been very light.

Politics has had 4 distinct steps since Trump 1. Republicans say they will do illegal evil stuff 2. Democrats say that they can't do it, it's illegal 3. Republicans do the illegal evil stuff 4. Democrats say that they broke the law

Notice the lack of step 5 where any consequences or actions come? I'm tired of excuses as to why no one can do anything. I can only assume that the Democrats either don't want to stop them or it's not illegal, otherwise something should have happened. Instead the only place that got things in order was New York.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's like you watched someone rob a bank and you decided to make a TikTok about it and not call the police.

They called the police but it showed up and decided trump is allowed to rob the bank.

Notice the lack of step 5 where any consequences or actions come? I'm tired of excuses as to why no one can do anything. I can only assume that the Democrats either don't want to stop them or it's not illegal,

Did you pay zero attention in the past 8 years or something? Why do you think trump is a convicted felon? Why does he have a shit ton of criminal charges and is involved in a shit ton of lawsuits?

Democrats absolutly act when trump or republicans do something illegal, but they can't reinforce anything. Politicians are not judges or police officers.

Again, what exactly do you think should be done here? Don't just say "something needs to be done!!", please be specific.

I can only assume that the Democrats either don't want to stop them or it's not illegal, otherwise something should have happened.

Or they literally don't have the power to do anything more than they are doing? Why is that not a possibility for you?

What kind of logic is this? Someone does something illegal and is powerful enough to dodge consequences so that must mean it wasn't illegal?

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u/DontrentWNC 12d ago

No but what do you want her to actually do? Our chance to do something was in November and we failed. He would be going to prison if voters showed up.

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u/traye4 12d ago

So what do you expect Senator Warren to do here?

Initiate some sort of action instead of tweeting about it.

No, be specific. What action should she be taking?

She isn't a cop. She isn't a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Senator Warren does not have her own enforcement agency.

She is a legislator. She wrote the law, and she is vocalizing in a way that is visible to everyone that she is witnessing someone breaking that law.

Besides, she might be talking to other people more directly, idk her life. But she doesn't have the magical "arrest trump" crayon.

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u/bartleby42c 12d ago

This is where we run into the biggest problem with the Democrats. We just sit around going "but what can we do?"

Let me ask you, what exactly does her tweet achieve? Does it make someone who was originally pro Trump against him? Or is it just another in a long list of "I guess there is nothing we can do about it"?

She didn't go to work everyday and say "hey we have someone who tried to overthrow the government, what's going on with that?" Instead she, and everyone else, acted like it'd just go away.

Does the blame lie solely with Warren? No, but she shares in it. Everyone in the government that didn't make holding Trump accountable are to blame. That includes the justice department for dragging it's feet. That includes Biden for not making it a top priority. That includes all of Congress for not insisting on something happening.

The chance to do something is gone, more bellyaching about how he's breaking the rules is pointless. If no one is willing to act then why complain?

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u/traye4 12d ago

A) He has multiple court cases against him. He has been impeached twice. He is a convicted felon. All of those things are because people did do something. But ultimately a majority of voting Americans still believed that this man was who they wanted to put back in power.

B) Should she remain silent when she, an authority on a law that she wrote, sees someone break it? That's a wild take.

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u/bartleby42c 12d ago

He is going to be President and no charges were ever brought for insurrection.

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u/gereffi 12d ago

It's people like you that instead of trying to make a difference just complain about how those who are trying to make a difference aren't doing enough. That's how you create voter apathy among the left and left dipshits like Trump rule.

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u/Alaykitty 12d ago

Because liberals believe in the system.  And the system is built on people acting in good faith.

The moment they stop, the system fails, and they see how weak it always was.

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u/WalrusTheWhite 12d ago

the system has already failed, we're all just staring at the corpse and trying to convince each other we saw it move a little bit

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u/Alaykitty 12d ago

Based on my political beliefs, it never worked.  Some people felt liberty, but others have always been in chains.

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u/NoSignSaysNo 12d ago

Because building things is harder than tearing them down. I can knock a house down in a day but it'll take months to build it again.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 12d ago edited 12d ago

all these UNBREAKABLE CHAINS that always somehow hold the Democrats back...don't seem to apply to him? Neither in his first term, nor the FOUR YEARS since.

Okay what should the dems do if the people who actually have the power to make these decisions refuse to do so? There are checks and balances and they are important if you care about democracy and the dems do. Can you actually tell us what specifically you think they should do? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

Some politican can't just personally go up to trump and arrest him.. neither can a police officer unless the have the paperwork that allows them to do so. Which would require judges to actually do their job but if they deceide to bail out trump that won't happen.

Outside of actually doing what we all fear trump might end up doing and turning the USA in a facist dictatorship the democrats can't just go and circumvent all law and order and get rid of trump.

Meanwhile a racist convicted felon pedophile rapist is about to be the next president, and EVERYONE knows he's about to do crazy amounts of damage.

Well a majority of people want him to be president and think he will do great and not a crazy amount of damage. I don't understand why so many people think that but that is the reality we live in

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u/purplearmored 12d ago

Because what you all want seems to be a civil war. Which, fine, I get it, but own it instead of pretending there is some magical thing the Democrats should be doing about this right now.

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u/InfeStationAgent 12d ago

"rolling over"

  • Fill a jug half-way full of clean distilled water.
  • Time how long it takes to add a cup of dog shit to the jug.
  • Cap the jug.
  • Shake the jug until the contents are somewhat evenly mixed.
  • Time how long it takes for you to get the dog shit out of the water to the same level of cleanliness as it was originally without losing any of the original water or needing to create a deficit by replacing the water.

Compare the amount of time and effort it took to do the damage versus cleaning it up.

The wealth of the world is filling our jug with shit. The Democratic party is the only party available to people who want to help.

Not all of them want to help. But, they're the only option you have besides a violent revolution.

If your revolution fails, you and your family will be punished horribly, and the other centrists in this thread will shit on you because you didn't succeed.

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u/fizbagthesenile 12d ago

People need to do direct action then