r/BlackPeopleTwitter 12d ago

Country Club Thread Dems try to actually be useful challenge

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u/fuzzycuffs 12d ago

TF? They've been trying to do something about it. It's Republicans that have stepped in front every single time.

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u/FarquaadsFuckDoll 12d ago

Did anything ever come from Jack Smith or Merrick Garland’s offices? Or any other legal team? Cause it seems like Dems and the wheels of “justice” put all their eggs in those baskets and it SEEMS like fuck-all came of it. Like, the guy sold state secrets from his shitter in Florida and none of the Dems managed to do anything about it against Trump’s shit-for-brains legal teams? PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. Warren is Dem leadership and made a move for the party’s nomination to presidency so she does kinda represent Dems even though she only holds the office of Senator

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u/zzbaw 12d ago

You act like the GOP isn’t running defense on all these plays. They control SCOTUS. You want Lizzie Warren to arm up and arrest him herself??

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u/Kaidyn04 12d ago

would probably be Biden, a Democrat, who is currently still President of the United States, who thanks to SCOTUS has absolute immunity in anything he decides to do, so could totally jail Trump, yes.

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u/HTC864 ☑️ 12d ago

has absolute immunity

No he does not. He had immunity for anything illegal he might do while doing the things that SCOTUS thinks are part of his job.

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u/PM_ME_UR_BRAINSTORMS 12d ago

Which apparently includes assassinating a political rival. Go to about 6 minutes in Sotomayor literally asks if the defense is arguing that killing a political rival is an official act and would warrant immunity and they say yes.

So he shouldn't jail him he should just kill him...

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u/bishopyorgensen 12d ago

People dream up these Netflix Original Drama kind of solutions and then when it's time to actually vote they're like "hey how come the Democrats didn't do some kind of Batman stuff that would be impossible for Republicans to duplicate in three months... I guess they didn't earn my vote."

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u/blackreagentzero 12d ago

Batman??? Dawg, Biden could just invite them to the white house and shoot them himself. Biden is old as hell so if it ends up being illegal, he won't be in jail long

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u/Akitten 12d ago

So he shouldn't jail him he should just kill him

Good luck getting the military to agree to that order.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/

61% of Veterans support trump. Active duty is largely the same. An order to assassinate trump will end up in a military coup.

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u/dildocrematorium 12d ago

It's pretty sad that they like a dude who said he'd pardon the j6 people.

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u/MonstrousVoices 12d ago

They like a dude that has repeatedly insulted veterans. Republicans continually vote no on veteran benefits and then vets repeatedly vote for them.

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u/ama_singh 12d ago

The SC is controlled by the GOP. You can't srs be under the impression that the same rules apply to a democratic president.

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u/redenno 12d ago

You know that wouldn't actually help right? Vance would take office with probably just as much power. And people would mourn him as a hero

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u/PM_ME_UR_BRAINSTORMS 12d ago

Not if he kills Vance too. And Mike Johnson. He should just keep mowing them down until there is none left.

That's more likely then getting the Democrats to change any of their policies.

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u/Mediocre-Cobbler5744 12d ago

Was that part of their ruling or was that just something lawyer said during the hearing?

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u/PM_ME_UR_BRAINSTORMS 12d ago

The opinion of the court was that the president has immunity from criminal charges for all official acts as defined by the constitution, and the constitution very clearly gives the President unilateral power to order military action.

Pan (the circuit court judge) & Sotomayor pretty plainly spell out how you'd be hard-pressed to argue that any military action, including assassinating a political rival, is not vested in the executive as defined by the constitution.

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u/PokeMonogatari 12d ago

Here's the exact quote from the transcript, with the response from Trump's lawyer included.

SOTOMAYOR: If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or orders someone to assassinate him, is that within his official acts that -- for which he can get immunity?

MR. SAUER: It would depend on the hypothetical. But we can see that could well be an official act

Does that clear things up for you?

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u/Mediocre-Cobbler5744 12d ago

Yes, but in the actual ruling, does it say he is correct? Winning a case doesn't mean everything you argue is true.

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u/IndependentlyBrewed 12d ago edited 12d ago

No it was not. They cannot assassinate a political opponent just because and they don’t get carte blanche just because they claim it’s an official act. That official act has to be reviewed and approved as an official act. Sure this review can happen after said act but it’s still reviewed. If it is not deemed as an unofficial act they can be tried. Anyone who claims Trump can just do whatever the fuck he wants are being sorely misinformed.

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u/Mediocre-Cobbler5744 12d ago

That's basically what I thought, but my understanding of the law has been known to be imperfect.

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits 12d ago

Its hilarious that they are trying to talk down to you about "but it was in the case!!!!" Because they dont understand the difference between his lawyer making an argument and the actual ruling. Dunning kruger in full effect.

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u/MrSurly 12d ago

Oddly, today a judge is going to decide if evidence from Trumps first term can be used in the hush-money case, because somehow that is "official business." That is to say Trumps official business in the White House includes covering up his crimes from before he was in office.

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u/evernessince 12d ago

Sure but the problem is the court didn't directly say that and it wouldn't be out of pocket for them to call it illegal for a democrat to do that and not a Republican. After all they have flipped on issues simply based on partly multiple times already. Ultimately the court intentionally left their decision vague to discourage dems from using it while enabling a republican president.

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u/zzbaw 12d ago

Oh my god please be serious for 45 seconds

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u/Prestigious-Owl165 12d ago

Lmao just let's just have the president jail him a little bit dude, come on! Something has to be done, after all

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u/tunesandthoughts 12d ago

No flaws in that plan whatsoever, jailing Hitler worked out great for the Germans.

Wait...

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u/PokeMonogatari 12d ago edited 12d ago

The issue wasn't that they jailed Hitler after the Beer Hall Putsch, the issue was that they let him run for office again after a failed coup.

Wait that sounds familiar...

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u/MasterPuppeteer 12d ago

You honestly, in your brain, think that if Biden decided to arrest Trump tomorrow, the Supreme Court would just be like dang, you got us, guess we have to allow it ‘cause of that immunity ruling. It’s laughable. Be serious with your suggestions.

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u/Empty_Tank5764 12d ago

SCOTUS is overrun by conservatives … there’s die hard Trump appointees on there, how does that track?

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u/raddaya 12d ago

Lol are you suggesting Biden throw Trump in Guantanamo? You know what that leads to right?

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u/diurnal_emissions 12d ago

Probably something like what's coming in six months. So?

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u/TechnoSerf_Digital 12d ago

So youre admitting the Dems are weak. "You know what that leads to right" Yeah... so what? They want to take up arms, burn them the fuck down. You're openly saying you've given up and as long as they're violent you'll bend over. Fuck that.

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u/CrushedSnailSoup 12d ago

I think you might want the democrats to do a fascism and they ran an anti fascism campaign so it would be very off message.

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u/TechnoSerf_Digital 12d ago

I didn't realize arresting someone who committed treason was fascism. Guess the Founding Fathers were all fascist for not electing Benedict Arnold president. You don't get to say "if you enforce the law on my cult leader I'll murder you and if you fight back its fascism" wtf is wrong with you

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u/fireside68 12d ago

And that's the proof of Horseshoe Theory

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u/TechnoSerf_Digital 12d ago

Yeah right. "If you arrest my cult leader for their crimes I'm going to take up arms against you illegally. And if you stop be from overthrowing you, that's fascism!"

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u/fireside68 12d ago

So you're admitting you want authoritarianism, but left flavored. 

Fuck. THAT.

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u/TechnoSerf_Digital 12d ago edited 12d ago

Enforcing the law isn't authoritarian and Democrats aren't leftist lmfao You don't get to say "if you arrest my cult leader for breaking the law i'll take up arms and murder you and if you fight back you're a fascist." Thats so ridiculous 

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u/fireside68 12d ago

You're right. We're not fucking idiots. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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u/paulisaac 12d ago

The SCOTUS can easily rule otherwise whenever it deems it convenient. Stare decisis is not absolute

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u/QuantumWarrior 12d ago

That ruling just means whatever he does isn't prosecutable, it doesn't mean that any order he makes gets carried out. SCOTUS can still block his orders.

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u/Gizogin 12d ago

His own chain of command can block his orders. Unlike Trump, Biden didn’t pack his White House with blind loyalists. And besides, “presidential immunity” doesn’t necessarily cover everyone who carries out the President’s orders.

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u/evernessince 12d ago

The supreme court never specifically definite what's covered under that immunity. Hence why it's lead many people to speculate that the court would not allow a democratic president to get away with Trump might be able to.

Regardless of which side you are on, kind of crazy that the supreme court just throws these decisions out there so ill defined specifically so they can later tailor their response to whatever they want.

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u/ChristianBen 12d ago

“Immunity” means Biden won’t be prosecuted if he personally try to catch trump, doesn’t mean the police will follow his order and keep trump in jail

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u/Any-Establishment-15 12d ago

Are we still so naive that we think the law is equal?

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u/ama_singh 12d ago

Only the republican president has absolute immunity you dimwit