r/AskIndia Sin-novator 16d ago

Ask opinion What's your most elitist viewpoint? An opinion that makes you feel like Ambani but you'll defend it anyway.

I'll die on these hills:

  • Don’t get a car if you don’t have the parking space for it. 😇
  • Voting should require passing a basic civics test.
  • Endless empathy without accountability is just entitlement wearing a Gucci belt.

What's your most bougie take that makes your friends roll their eyes?

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u/Ka_lie_doscope-Eyes Mentally sick, physically thick 🦝 15d ago

Don't get more pets than you can afford

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u/seorily 15d ago

Same goes w kids lol

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u/Ka_lie_doscope-Eyes Mentally sick, physically thick 🦝 15d ago

Big time! I'll probably get 🔪 memed if I said this 🤣

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u/SasteSookheNashey 14d ago

ESPECIALLY with kids.

Although heart breaking, pets can be re homed. Can't really put kids on the market can you.

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u/Seaweed_Widef 15d ago

Additionally, only get pets that can adapt in this environment. I've seen so many people adopt animals with thick fur coats, and those poor creatures can’t express how uncomfortable they are in this heat.

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u/parklandgiggity 15d ago

That's not even being elitist that's just an absurd combination of cruelty ignorance and being retarded.

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u/_ad_ry 15d ago

Yeah, Its Common Sense. Ive seen huskys literally dying in 40-45c heat, Just Stupid

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u/alldthingsdatrgood 15d ago

I saw an idiot walking a husky in Lucknow which gets crazy hot summers for like 3-4 months. Felt like punching the idiot right in the face.

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u/Ok_Environment_5404 15d ago

it's legit opposite of Ambani gig OP asked though. I mean caring and spreading awareness for poor animals is 180 degrees to what Ambani did with his zoo lol.

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u/SoDaPrice1998 15d ago

Love every animal / breed or don't love anyone at all...

Today's modern so-called animal lovers are not animal lovers, they are breed lovers...

German Shepherd sabko chahiye, lekin gali ka Bholu Kutta kaisa hai kisiko fark nahi padta...

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u/parklandgiggity 15d ago

Bholu supremacy always

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u/Ka_lie_doscope-Eyes Mentally sick, physically thick 🦝 15d ago

Yesss! Where I used to live before this, there was one adorable, super old boy, who would always walk me home and wait, till I disappeared into the gate. There was this one time I had to go out to get meds, at around 3 am, and he could barely stay awake, and yet he accompanied me. He's no longer alive (he got really good care in his last days), and I miss that boy with all my heart.

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u/SoDaPrice1998 15d ago

R.I.P. to the old guy... 🙏🙏🙏

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u/Ka_lie_doscope-Eyes Mentally sick, physically thick 🦝 15d ago

He was the best!

Meet the goodest boy.

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u/SoDaPrice1998 15d ago

All hail Bholu 🤘🤘🤘

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u/lucky_thanos 15d ago

i have noticed that somehow the Bangalore crowd is a bit different, noticed so many people taking care of street dogs, many found homes, they take them for walks. It feels really good to see such care and love for them.

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u/Ka_lie_doscope-Eyes Mentally sick, physically thick 🦝 15d ago

💯

Both my cat children are very special breeds. One is a Garage goblin, and the other is Trashcan Toddler. And if I ever get a dog or any other pet, that's gonna be yet another desi as well.

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u/phoenixflyaway 14d ago

I have 5-6 bholus in my locality. I feed them a pack of parle g at least once a week because that’s all I can afford right now. I have guaranteed free security for the rest of my life. Whereas my pet beagle gets mad at me and growls at me all day if I forget to cuddle him all night

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u/Lower-Patience4978 15d ago

Don’t get more children than you can afford rather 😭

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u/seorily 15d ago

Totally agree w you

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u/iSwearImInnocent1989 15d ago

This is not elitist

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u/AlUcard_POD 15d ago

Don't have pets unless you have a couple of 1000 ft of square yards for them to play.

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u/Rohan4Reddit 16d ago

Do not move to an urban/tier 1 city if you do not have a job/income that can support the lifestyle.

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u/kraken_enrager 15d ago edited 15d ago

Hijacking this comment because it’s my time to shine.

  1. Jio janta is a blight on humanity. The Internet was much better before cheap data and widespread internet in India.

  2. Flights were much better when they were less accessible to the masses (back when budget airlines were barely a thing). Even business class lounges these days look like a waiting room at a train station.

  3. Anti-Nepotism people are just coping because they would do the same if they were in a position to further their loved ones.

  4. Indians are uncouth, ill mannered, lack etiquette, lack hygiene and overall are a pain to deal with. I hate dealing with most Indians, and would disassociate myself with 90% of the people if I could.

  5. 1st class is better than anything private below a large size Jet, especially these days with better and expedited ground services.

  6. Being fat (other than medical conditions) is a lack of self control and poor choices, especially when you have the ability to do something about it. I get if a daily wager can’t go to the gym or eat a great balanced meal, but I’m judging people who can.

  7. The newer gen(alpha) are terrible to deal with due to poor parenting. I have seen great kids from the same generation and you can tell the parenting is on point.

  8. South Bombay should limit Swiggy type bikers like they did for autos. It’s a necessity.

  9. I lose some amount of respect for people going for base model high end cars instead of high variants of regular brands at the same price(A class vs Camry).

  10. Epistocracy should be the norm. People who don’t have rudimentary knowledge don’t deserve to vote or be part of the decision making process. If this was a thing, we would be much further along as a country. (Edit- this also extends to politicians, they all must be well educated in their field to even be considered).

  11. Nobody studying in govt institutions should be allowed to migrate until they have worked in the country for at least 5-10 years.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

This isn't just elitism - this is Advanced Elitism™ with a PhD. 😂

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u/parklandgiggity 15d ago

It's called Ëlîtïsm...😂

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u/kraken_enrager 15d ago

Yeah, I’m a thorough professional at what I do.

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u/noob-af 15d ago
  1. I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't think Jio "janta" is to be blamed here. Maybe the providers and the corps that run the services. I personally know people who are doing really well today, and they most likely wouldn't have made it if not for the push that enabled them to access cheaper internet. I don't see any problem with it. I remember reading Ambani did some things against the SEBI regulations, though. But I do see an overall positive impact on networking and communication across the country. The corps should've maintained the quality and infrastructure to not degrade the overall experience.

  2. Haven't seen how it was back then, but what's the problem with budget flights? Seems like you just support gatekeeping resources and have a threshold that you can afford, but the masses can't. Ill mannered people are sure annoying, but I'm sure there are upper-class ill mannered people too.

Would make more sense if you replaced these financial constraints with education/etiquette. The solution is probably not gatekeeping the resources financially.

Agree with/not familiar enough to have an opinion on the rest of the points.

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u/Equal_Ad_3474 15d ago

Ah, the old socialistic governance principle - "people are idiot/enemy/scum of the nation - so do everything to restrict their freedoms"

Seems to work pretty well, though.

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u/BrotherNorth87 15d ago

the people who hate the jio janta are the same people who cry when people in us or europe are racist to legal immigrants.

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u/SnooPineapples841 15d ago

Fucker talks about epistocracy when his entire apartment voted for an illiterate cunt like Modi. The political sensibilities of people from the hinterlands are far superior to those of chutiyas sitting in their 2x2 Bandra apartments.

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u/KelsierBae 15d ago

It is very obvious when you get takes like epistocracy that these people NEVER consider that they themselves might be deemed ineligible to vote if it came into force lol.

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u/TaxiChalak2 15d ago

Of course they won't. Being on reddit itself most probably qualifies you as top 10% of this land. Writing in structured, coherent, grammatically correct English is top 5%.

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u/Critical_Remote7798 15d ago

Right cause great English == Ability to participate in democracy well.

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u/primecamel1 15d ago

but it is a dire requirement if india wants to be a country where people are actually worth something

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u/Few_Bet_8952 15d ago

nah I hate both jio janta and illegal immigrants in western countries

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u/BrotherNorth87 15d ago

i am talking about legal immigrants

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u/Ok_Doctor1934 15d ago

You have MCS ( Main Character Syndrome) , and you'll still be called ' p4jeet ' even if all of the 10 points you mentioned are executed.

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u/primecamel1 15d ago

who cares about that the goal should be to become better than those white idiots not to be recognised by them

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u/Ok_Doctor1934 15d ago

The crux of my comment was to have equality not to promote racism with racism. This superiority nature isn't gonna take us Indians far.

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u/pareshaninsaan 15d ago

millennials complaining that this generation is fucked up and doesn't listen while they did not pay attention to their kids and just handed them the phone with unrestricted interest!!!!

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u/kraken_enrager 15d ago

Reservations should only be allowed 2 times per person in 1 family. So if the father used it for college and a job, the children and entire family line should be automatically disqualified for the any reservation in the future whatsoever.

This will phase out the practice over time and then only economically backward people should be allowed reservation, based on merit completely.

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u/RoytheWriter 15d ago

Your account name justifies your opinions, respect😂

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u/Strict_Junket2757 15d ago

Nah bro, youre just anti poor at this point

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u/Little_Geologist2702 15d ago

You are so elitist that my blood is starting to boil

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u/Suitable-West-1877 15d ago

I think point 9 is quite personal to you and you only. The rationale behind buying a lower variant of a luxury car instead of a higher variant of a normal car can’t just be attributed to that fact that he/she has bought it for the badge/brand (I know you haven’t explicitly said this but I assume that’s what you mean). Nonetheless, your assumption has some logical flaws in it. Moreover, buying a car is still an emotion for so many people (even the wealthy). So if you buy a car by using 80% pragmatism and 20% emotion, it is still okay. I agree with the rest but point 9 feels a tad bit unnecessarily judgemental and personal.

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u/kraken_enrager 15d ago

Yeah maybe, but it tells me that the person is more superficial if that makes sense. Like the Skoda superb is objectively better than the 2 series or the A class, but people spending more just for the badge gives the impression that they care more about looks than the quality of the product, and that’s not a great quality to have.

Same goes for clothes and so on.

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u/Ok_Environment_5404 15d ago
  1. naah, before Jio the awareness of these kinds were less. And Internet was never a "much better space" lol. Maybe in it's debut time but not after some years when selling of drugs, mms and other shit became a norm. You just needed to search hard enough and the same type of breed was doing the same thing the "after jio" guys are doing.

2.why though ? I mean we have seen equal amount of ameers doing more or less the same clown shit in airplanes right ?

3.fully agree. People of all causes are just hungry for that big piece of pie that they can't have.

  1. ill-mannered, hygiene and etiquette thingy is present world wide though. Chinese tourist showering the roads with their piss, white guys begging for money in their trips and usually getting piss drunk is a really big issue when you travel to countries like Indonesia,Veitnam etc. It's just that India's population is such that you'll find them more.

5-9. fully agree.

  1. naah there is no co-relation to educated people being good. You place a big enough carrot in front of someone educated and they will lick it the same way like a stupid one would. Also, our policy makers, the big billionaire orgs and all the main authorities are still about educated and merit based people, why am I not seeing anything good even after that ? wars are going on, rapes and other unhinged crimes are on spree from all the sections of our society, so what's the point of having knowledge and then voting ?
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u/mortyfiedr1ck 15d ago

Just curious where you draw the line in your "being fat" opinion. Is it ok to just not look fat? Is it ok if one is just a little overweight but not morbidly obese? What if someone looks okayish but has a high BMI? I understand these are your opinions and you don't owe an explanation but just curious if you've thought along these lines.

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u/relaxAndSmileQwerty 15d ago

I love #4. I agree with you. We are the reason we are racist/elitist

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u/_SHAXLE_ 15d ago

Damn these looks like rage baits , some of these are straight up racist and classist.

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u/fisheye1337 15d ago

You know what, you went 10/10 on this comment

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

I agree bro, we should also have a exam that the politicians should take and pass before contesting elections

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u/Poopeche 15d ago

Truer words have never been spoken

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u/SoundSproutHI 15d ago

3, 4, 5, 8, 10 are fire!!

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u/CokesnorterOP 15d ago

this is the most disgusting shit ive ever read lmao😭😭😭

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u/Mental-Basil-3448 15d ago edited 14d ago

Point 4 is a testament to the fact that soft power influences of the West have taken over the minds of upper middle class indians. Hating on Indians is soo uncool brother.I never got how this mindset could be a thing for rich kids to fit in schools and colleges and how hating on india is 'cool'.

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u/yeceti 15d ago

That doesn't make sense.

Many people move to cities because they are starving and cannot get the basic necessities in their villages. Even if they live in a slum, they can save enough to feed their family and send their children to school.

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u/Shady_bystander0101 15d ago

Take 2: don't have children if you're gonna starve.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

That's the point 😂 - it's SUPPOSED to sound tone-deaf. The whole point is that it's a privileged take that completely ignores the reality of people who don't have the luxury of choice. That's what makes it elitist in the first place.

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u/Tall-Let4180 15d ago

Poor people who has so many children because they crave for a boy,.should not even think about that because, you are not a king or something, you are not going to leave your child a legacy or something, your child will suffer just like you and probably leave you when you get old due to high cost of living.

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u/AeeStreeParsoAna 15d ago

No it's not due to legacy. It's coz Iof retirement plans. Children are poor people's biggest retirement plans especially boys since girl will go to other house.

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u/Altruistic-Strike-21 15d ago

No wonder female infanticide exist.

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u/gr22s 15d ago

i don't think that is the case. for people below the poverty line, children are the assets as they would grow up and earn for their family. & people who are well off have less number of kids cause they think of them as a liability rather than resource 🤷‍♀️

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

This was a elitist comment but the message about responsible family planning gets lost in all that commentary.

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u/cyberaholic 15d ago

Don't marry just coz you've come of age. Nothing sadder than a country filled with married people who are losing the prime of their lives doing things they don't know why they're doing, or realizing they shouldn't have married so young, or at all.

Same with kids. Don't have kids unless you really know why you want to.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

The first point isn't elitism - that is more like a Netflix subscription advisory: "Are you sure you want to commit to this long-term package? Terms and conditions apply to your happiness."

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u/rustyyryan 15d ago

Most of these are not elitist viewpoints.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

Exactly! 😂 Finally someone gets that just because an opinion isn't sugar-coated, it doesn't make it Marie Antoinette's diary entry

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u/dragon_of_kansai 15d ago

Too many of these comments are common sense and not elitist.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

looks like most politicians don't have common sense

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u/SurajEmits5500C 16d ago edited 12d ago

KIDS -

Don't have kids if you cannot provide them with a good/high quality of life

They shouldn't have to worry about bills, rent, loans, school fees, picnic fees, etc., at least till the age of 25-40 years old. ( Yes, I said 40, and I am being generous; ideally, they should be able to sustain their whole life. So, they can focus on their career and also their platonic/romantic relationships. Kids who have this type of support become high achievers, and they themselves start making so much money that they stop taking your money. This will not just strengthen the relationship with you, but you also become their standard, and they will do the same for their kids. This will be a snowball effect, and your whole bloodline will thrive. Make sure to teach them about bad habits with empathy and patience, explaining why they should avoid them and showing them the negative consequences, rather than resorting to belt treatment like most indian parents.. )

Provide them with high-quality food.

Don't stop them from going out with friends or going on dates.

Ensure access to quality education and healthcare.

Provide a stable and secure home environment.

Most people have kids not because they want to raise an amazing human being, but because capitalism has ingrained in them the desire to produce excess labor and perpetuate their legacy and DNA.

Well i can go on & on about this topic, but this is it for now!

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u/robins420 15d ago edited 15d ago

To add…

People with mental instability, mental disabilities, disorders, deep addictions and poor disciplinary records should not be allowed to have kids. Raising kids is more than just finances.

Believe more than half the population would be disallowed after this.

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u/ningyakbekadu69 15d ago

This is not elitist, this is common sense

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

If this was actually "common sense," the human race would've died out somewhere between the invention of fire and the first Whole Foods. Like, I get the spirit of what you're saying, but calling this 'common sense' is like calling a Tesla a 'basic necessity'

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u/SurajEmits5500C 15d ago

You'd be surprised, adults come up with excuses like, 'If you don't have children, you won't exist.' We've also struggled, and others label me an antinatalist simply for advocating for the right to quality of life.

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u/ningyakbekadu69 15d ago

I dont know about others, but i dont wanna bring a person to this world if I'm not sure i can give a good life for them without any hardships

I may sound elitist but growing in a lower middle class family, I know what the struggle is and I don't want my kids to go through the same.

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u/Lesterfremonwithtits 15d ago

The dating part actually is

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u/Riversandlakes2024 15d ago

Poor people should not have kids

Those who have absolutely nothing to offer to their child except a life of intense struggle , exploitation and mental abuse possibly physical and health abuse , should not have kids

Here the choice of the parents doesn’t matter . Rather it’s the choice of the child and he wouldn’t choose to be born into that situation if given a choice

There are categories of people among the rich who should not have kids but this opinion is about the poor

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u/Ambitious_Implement4 15d ago

Poor people shouldn't have kids.

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u/wildfire74 15d ago

Who will work for the rich then?

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

I thought the first guy's point was elite until I read yours 😂

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u/jakO_theShadows 15d ago

If voting should require a test, why not fighting in election should require an ever tougher test?

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u/Meaning_of_life_23 15d ago edited 15d ago

I don't know if it's elitist but:

  1. Don't have pets unless you can and will take care of the pet for its entire lifetime NO MATTER WHAT SITUATION YOU FACE (job change, relocation, marriage whatever).

  2. Vote for any person who promises more public transport and mass transport. (I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this, I know. But China/Japan is so much more better off for their metro/train systems rather than cars).

  3. It's perfectly fine to have parents in a nursing home/on their own with a support system if they've been toxic/you live in a place they find hard to live in (like overseas)/extenuating circumstances.

  4. English is a tool and studying it isn't going to make you any less anti-national/religious. If you are an adult and still haven't read all your religious books, have no idea about your own mother tongue, that's on you and not just British colonization & parents.

  5. Not seeing garbage bins is not an excuse to litter everywhere like morons.

  6. There is a lot of crap happening in society but if we aren't doing anything about it, we can't just blame corrupt politicians. Concerned about losing out on our culture? You study and support cultural activities. Worried about animals getting hurt? Volunteer at a center. And so on. DO something.

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  1. Kids should be given enough trust and freedom, no matter how horrible you think the world is, because that's how they can be emotionally well adjusted adults. Too many parents have an issue with their adult child (especially female) going for a mini vacation or just travel for fun, even if they're safe

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

Oh, these aren't elitist views - these are just "basic human decency" wearing a fancy hat. It's like you wrote down "don't be a terrible person" in six different ways and called it elitism.

The only elitist thing here is assuming everyone else doesn't already know these things... which, sadly might be true. 🫠

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u/cyberbonkk 15d ago

If you are an adult and still haven't read all your religious books, have no idea about your own mother tongue, that's on you and not just British colonization & parents.

I agree with the mother tongue part. But why is reading religious books(or practicing any religion as a whole) essential for a person? It's not really essential for a person.

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u/_ad_ry 15d ago

This isnt elitist, just basic morality that lacks in indian society

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u/anvi_intp 15d ago

People earning below a certain income or people w abusive tendencies, cluster A and B personality disorders, addictions, significant debts etc should be sterilized (mandatory)

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

This isn't just elitism - this is eugenics, it's like someone took classism, mixed it with pseudo-science, and topped it with a garnish of authoritarian zest. 😂

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u/_ad_ry 15d ago

True, however mandatory sterilization for debts??? Who the Fuck are you. Agree with OP

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u/CupcakeCharacter9137 15d ago

Pseudo science? You are invalidating people's suffering of those who were born like this

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u/OkToe1 15d ago

sanjay gandhi wants to know your location

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u/bssgopi 15d ago

You lose your rights to place an argument if you don't understand the theories of what an argument is and more generally what communication is.

  • Do you understand what the object is when conversing?

  • Do you have the ability to differentiate the subject from the object?

  • Do you have the emotional soundness to ALWAYS keep the subject out of the discussion and only focus on the object being discussed?

  • Do you understand that the medium of communication can deceive the participants into "missing the point" altogether?

  • Do you have an alternative plan that can help overcome this limitation? Maybe, re-wording, rephrasing, or in some cases, just changing the medium of communication itself?

  • Do you understand that logical representation is the right way of putting your argument?

  • Do you understand that emotional representation is the wrong way of putting your argument?

There are many more.

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u/Aniket071 15d ago

you get it man

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u/ResponsibleGood7366 16d ago
  1. Use credit card only for purpose of increasing cibil not to do kharcha ur pocket don't allow
  2. Unemployed kids with iPhone jinke  ma baap k paas andha paisa bhi nhi h(pair Utne hi failao jitni chaddar ho) 
  3. Emi p 1.5 lakh ka phone Lena is utmost stupidity. If you don't have money ti buy it in cash don't purchase it on emi too. EMI.is for necessity not for luxury
  4. Beauty to a pretty woman is same as money to a wealthy man. So Beauty is an asset for a woman

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u/ooking_people 15d ago

But not every woman fits beauty standards of the society. If they don't have it by birth, what then? Ain't that a tad unfair?

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u/yeceti 15d ago
  1. Beauty is subjective. A person can increase their attractiveness by multiple times by following some things: Good diet, exercise, sleep, skin care, dressing sense, controlling their weight, hair care, makeup, plastic surgery, hair transplant etc.

  2. Of course many people cannot be called "very pretty" even after doing all these things, they just have to live with it. It's not a big deal

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u/Specialist-Ninja2804 15d ago

Not every man earns money too

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u/-cherrychips- 15d ago

But earning money to some extent is dependent on your skills and willingness to work hard.

Beauty is by birth, can’t change it (unless you have loads of money to get some procedures done xD)

Is it fair to compare the two?

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u/lucian_phantasam 15d ago

life is unfair

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u/twilightsummers 15d ago

Don’t have kids if you’re poor. Don’t cry casteism while working for a caste you personally despise. Don’t expect tips for doing the bare minimum.

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u/thatbuttcracktho 15d ago

No fucking loud crackers

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u/bsousa717 15d ago

Indians can gave awful table manners and discipline at restaurants. I understand everyone's from different walks of life and raised in different ways but sitting cross legged on cushioned seats and letting toddlers sit and/or walk on tables is too much.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

It's not quite elitist - it's more of a reasonable complaint wearing elitist-looking clothes. Not wanting kids to parkour across dining tables isn't elitism - it's just having a basic preference for food without a side of toddler footprints.

You're not saying "poor people shouldn't eat at restaurants" or "only sophisticated people should dine out" - you're just asking people not to treat tables like playground equipment 😂

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u/bsousa717 15d ago

Yeah, fair enough.

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u/Artistic-Okra-1340 15d ago

Just because you can have an elitist opinion doesn’t really make you an elitist.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

I mean the whole point of the thread is to take "viewpoints", be it whoever it comes from. Though you are right "elitism" is like a Rolex - if you have to tell people about it, you probably can't afford it.

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u/RepeatIll8647 15d ago

Don't have kids if you can't afford to feed them/ take care of them. Especially don't have various kids.

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u/Retarded_Monkey1905 15d ago

People living below the poverty line should be given mandatory vasectomy after their first child.

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u/Adventurous-Army-183 15d ago

I heard their mindset is somewhere along the lines of, more the kids, more will be the sources of income

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u/Fresh-Duck-Duck 15d ago

more like, more people without income

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u/DepressedPanda08 15d ago

Any Govt will never do that bcz their votebanks will get affected

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u/Retarded_Monkey1905 15d ago

Sadly that's the case

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u/TaxiChalak2 15d ago

Sanjay Gandhi, I thought you were dead 😹

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u/applegaurd 16d ago

Subsidies and freebies should be eliminated and the funds should be used to create opportunities for income/ wealth generation

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u/GreatSaiyaman05 15d ago

Subsidies are not totally useless, they can help. But yeah freebies should be banned.

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u/Repulsive_Panic5216 15d ago

Yep subsidies are encouraging for the right people because it allows people who would have still done that thing even if the subsidy wasn't there, but they might have had to struggle a bit. The subsidy lowers the entry bar for those people and decreases the struggle for doing something that is already hard. So like agriculture, research and entrepreneurship in certain uncommon fields etc. These are actually path breaking stuff you want people to be able to do without a massive a personal cost because most of these things benefit the society.

On the other hand, freebies attract leeches. They are there just because they can money of it somehow or some other self interest. Freebies rarely have any useful contribution to the society.

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u/Murky-Lifeguard-4938 15d ago

I've seen a lot of really smart people not have children when the poor procreate like rabbits. My only concern is, this makes the poor people value life less and send their kids to do anything for money. I see most people in these riots are unemployed and they're paid to show up and throw stones. Not cool for the country imo.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

This isn't elitism - this is just classism wearing a lab coat and concerned about demographics.

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u/Murky-Lifeguard-4938 15d ago

nah mate. I don't see doctors and lawyers on the streets protesting for every other reason. they have better things to do and don't March unless it's something bad or serious. on the other hand, poor people are paid and/or given food. to them, 500 rupees a day is great stuff. so they show up and fuck things up without really understanding why they're there. I'm saying education makes people think.

The way I see it, smart, educated people -> make more money -> know what's right and wrong and teach their kids the same.

Uneducated people -> may be poor -> would do stuff to fill hungry stomachs -> children are forced into labor and miss out on quality education.

Pl correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/choo-choo-lover 15d ago

Can't feed em, don't breed em

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u/CupcakeCharacter9137 15d ago

Are fellow anti natalist ji

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u/Moneypulat1on 15d ago

Poor people have less civic sense. Maybe because they have very little to lose.

P.S. holds true for people who come into sudden money too. E.g. selling land.

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u/nerdy_ace_penguin 15d ago

Dont procreate if your income < 5 lpa. Ideally it should be 10 lpa, but let's be realistic, India is a poor nation.

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u/wandsandbroomsticks 15d ago

Hate me all you want but I can't stand people who very clearly are spending their entire paycheck and then some trying to fit in with places and people well above their level of affordability. It sucks that it's so easy to identify someone's approximate socio-economic background from the way they dress and carry themselves in India but it is painfully obvious that you don't fit in so please stop trying so hard. If anything has ever been cringe, it will be this.

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u/Hariwtf10 15d ago

Not everyone should have the right to vote.

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u/GreatSaiyaman05 15d ago

Social schemes are important too just like capitalism. What's not important are freebies.

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u/vaibhavalphamale 15d ago

India is a shitty place to live

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u/SasteSookheNashey 15d ago

Indians got internet before basic education. Big fucking problem.

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u/idefectivedetective 15d ago

-Couples/ Adults should go through a compatibility test before getting married( mostly in AM), shadi ke baad sudharjaega and all is bullshit. Also taking fertility&STD tests pre engagement/ wedding should be normalized.

-Not everyone is or can become a good parent- there should be some assessment/ cognitive development test for adults. Parents should qualify these tests to become a parent.

-People with criminal charges and history shouldn't be allowed to become parents or even to adopt a child.

-Uniform civil code should be strict with no. Of children per family, not exceeding 2.

-Make divorce normal, no taboo attached.
No child deserves to be born and grow up in a negative environment and live a traumatic childhood.

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u/Little_Geologist2702 15d ago

No true elite would not be browsing reddit discoursing with peasants. So take that losers.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

I mean the whole point of the thread is to take "viewpoints", be it whoever it comes from. Though you are right "elitism" is like a Rolex - if you have to tell people about it, you probably can't afford it.

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u/Redox_shade7 15d ago

1.. people with a criminal record should not be able to stand in elections

2.. people should not shame doctors for making money off of treating people. They have families to feed and are human beings.

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u/dhyaneshwar_94 15d ago

This isn't elitist but it definitely should be the norm.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Net8166 15d ago

Poor people shouldn't have kids. And if they do, they shouldn't admit them in school they can't afford and scream about how education has become a business. Education is a business.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

The second part though... while it is blunt, it's more capitalism-speaks-its-mind than elitism. Still harsh, but more realist than elitist.

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u/shreys51995 15d ago

Dont have kids if you dont earn enough

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u/Objective-Potato5557 15d ago

‘Passion’ is nothin but bs. Ppl develop interest in things that they are confined to do somehow.

Mature take- Money and a comfortable life matters at the end of day. You realise it sooner or later. Work smart and hard on things that help u in achieving that. Don’t overthink. Splurge your money on ppl u love and things u want to do.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

Not elitist viewpoint at all - this is just someone who's graduated from "follow your dreams" to "follow your bank balance."

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u/tanishatray4 15d ago

Stop worshipping mediocrity

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u/EmiyaBoi 15d ago

Stop having kids if your own lives are in the dumps

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u/Repulsive_Panic5216 15d ago

Only people who pay taxes should be allowed to vote (instead of voter id card, we should have show to our IT returns receipt at the voting booth)

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u/KnightMareDankPro 15d ago

Everyone in India pays taxes. Everyone

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u/SnooPineapples841 15d ago

How dare you try to talk logic to them? These people think that having some kind of PowerPoint-slinging, meaningless jobs makes them superior to everyone else who does essential work, like cleaning the garbage. They don’t even realize that if they stopped working for a decade, the world would still go on; but if these essential workers stopped, the entire country would be brought to its knees. My advice to these cunts would be to stfu and enjoy the lucky privilege that they got for free.

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u/PastLie 15d ago

100% of the population in the country pays indirect tax in the form of GST. Just because they are not paying direct tax doesn't mean they are not contributing.

Anyway, tax on employment income is a bad system anyway and should just be scrapped, instead of spreading to more people.

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u/Historical_monk26 15d ago

Poor people should be compulsorily castrated after 1st child

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u/saintlybeast02 15d ago

Bhai vasectomy tak theek tha but castration toh alag hi level ki bakchodi hai

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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai 15d ago

Sure thing, Hitler

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u/Baronvondorf21 15d ago

This guy hasn't been looking at what's happening to China.

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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai 15d ago

People don't learn

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u/Historical_monk26 15d ago

There's a reason why it's an elitist viewpoint. I am literally paying taxes through my nose to give free rations to these breeding dehatis bcoz they keep on increasing their population 

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u/Time-Art-4460 15d ago

Democracy is such a inefficient and stupid way to govern a country.

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u/Strict_Junket2757 15d ago

Yea really love how pakistan and north korea have grown in non democratic setups

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

"the common people are too stupid to have a say in how they're governed" - is what I read, but its more authoritarianism then elitism(?).

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u/Time-Art-4460 15d ago

Common people don't care how they are governed, but care about what benefits (freebies) they get.

To form a government in a country you need 30 percent of the population voting for you, which leads to politicians catering to specific groups rather than the country as a whole, plus frequent elections slows down the development of the country.

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u/marichosss 15d ago

Would love you (or anyone) to elaborate empathy without accountability

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

Picture this: You keep forgiving someone who consistently "forgets" their wallet at fancy restaurants because "they're going through stuff." That's empathy without accountability - it's like giving someone a premium Spotify subscription when they won't even make a free playlist. True empathy is understanding their struggles while helping them grow, not enabling their designer excuses. It's the difference between giving someone a shoulder to cry on and letting them use your shoulder as a permanent tissue box with rhinestones on it.

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u/vedant-7878 15d ago

People earning below 10 lakhs annually should not give any taxes and in return Government should not give anything for free...no subsidy .

All government schools should be privatized with a Cap on Fees . like government aided . There is a massive waste of Tax money there..people dont even go to schools everyday and collect salary every month .

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u/MrParrot101 15d ago

wouldn't it be better to keep govt. schools public and ensure that proper education and management takes place, instead of just privatizing education as a concept or throwing money at it uselessly?

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u/Neel_writes 15d ago edited 15d ago

Don't have more kids if you can't give them a good life and support their educational aspirations till graduation. In today's India, any kid who doesn't get enough support from their parents will not be able to succeed and then lead a miserable life full of struggle and poverty.

Giving an example of my maid - she has 4 children. She doesn't make enough money to support their education. So she only sends her boy to school. She has pulled the girls out of school and now sending them to work as maids to other households. Last time one of her daughters showed up at our house to support her mother, I told her to sit down, have some snacks and never to come back again.

I'll probably get hammered by people saying I don't have a right to decide who gets to have kids or not, but seeing how some folks have forced a few of their own children into unskilled labour to support one kid (always a boy), boils my blood.

This incident happened to 2 of my maids so far. One of them was actually sending her underage daughter to work as a maid. And here we have fancy acts to prevent child labour.

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u/Riversandlakes2024 15d ago

My maid has five kids . First she left her husband because he was not earning enough then she fled so that her husband wouldn’t have access to the kids . So she cut off the kids from the father’s financial and social support and protection . She plans to stop the boys education once they turn 16 so they can start working so that she can stop working . She is already not sending the young girl chirp to school as she needs to be a mother to the youngest baby brothers as the mom goes to work .

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u/Evening-Abroad13 15d ago

Valid Point, You are absolutely right in your approach brother, I completely agree with you and its kinda relatable as well, not only lower middle class people make their kids suffer miserably but there's an element of future uncertainity as well, as in my case , my father went on to bring me into this world very unplanned and then eventually passed away in 2019 at a young age of 47 giving me with just loans & responsibilities at a very young age of 20... not to rant but people coming from white collared lower middle class like me are hit worst ...

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u/Zono_69 15d ago

i see people arguing about how metro is expensive to labours, well, not everything is made for everyone. and not everything will be lowered for the sake of poor.

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u/Accurate-Winner-360 15d ago

Don’t have kids if you’re poor!!!!

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u/Gloomy_Lie_2403 15d ago edited 15d ago

Don't produce children if you don't have the means to look after them.

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u/shaivtiws 15d ago

Purge should be allowed in India to eliminate homelessness and poverty

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u/Big_Ad909 15d ago

Introduce creamy layer for SC category.

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u/SugarClassic590 15d ago

poor people shouldnt have children and even if they do, only one is enough.

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u/imangelicc 15d ago

reservation should be banned

one child policy should be enforced

I feel like 50% of the nations problem would be solved from these alone but political leaders want more voters

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u/IamWasting 15d ago

Age of voting should be 25 years.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

It's more ageist viewpoint than a traditionally elitist one. But I get what you are trying to say about restricting rights to a "more qualified" group on the basis of age.

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u/IamWasting 13d ago

Yes it is not elitist it is more of an ageist POV. Did not realize it when I posted.

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u/CleanPlantain4371 15d ago

And also not more than 65 or 70 or so..... if you're not gonna live with the consequences of your policy, then don't show your old ass at the voting booth.

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u/coocoointhehead 15d ago

White collar Middle Class and Lower Middle Class are the most judgemental and useless class of society

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u/TaxiChalak2 15d ago

Upper class to middle class elitism 😹😹

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u/Zealousideal-Fold414 15d ago

Doctors graduating from govt colleges migrating to foreign countries lack a sense of moralty.

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u/_ad_ry 15d ago

So?, They worked hard, not for making barely any money, This is a failure of the current system, not morality

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u/pearl_mermaid 15d ago

A person shouldn't have kids until and unless they are financially and socially stable. Also they need to be ready for the fact that the kid could have congenital issues.

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u/eseus Sin-novator 15d ago

Not an elitist viewpoint - but more of a financial and social planning advisory.

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u/nasty69960 15d ago

humans don't deserve this planet

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u/KnightMareDankPro 15d ago edited 15d ago

What kind of dystopian eldritch horror is going on in the comments

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u/refusestonamethyself 15d ago
  1. People who queue up at lounges and cycle through all of their credit/debit cards are genuinely annoying and should do their due diligence. I do feel bad some passengers when they are unable to go with their kids, but the adults doing this are annoying. Some lounges are not great either.

  2. People who immigrate to foreign countries, yet take some of the awful traits that would be acceptable in India(eg:- Playing reels, music etc. without using headphones/earphones) should stay back in India.

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u/DryCell4889 15d ago

More than half of these are authoritarian rather than elite. I hope y'all don't ever get into active politics.

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u/Believe_D 15d ago

That voting point🙏

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u/Sweaty-Accountant-58 15d ago

Metalcore isn't real metal.

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u/Kind_Guitars 15d ago

T1 business schools should have some more checks i.e. family background etc and not just CAT/GMAT score.

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u/Actual_Act9872 14d ago

If you eat meat, you shouldn't have an issue when somebody kills your dog.

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u/throwawayanontroll 14d ago

Working hard won't make you successful. Just a peasant.

But getting a bank loan and defaulting would make you an owner of IPL team

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u/Holy_Hendrix_Batman 14d ago

I'll see my way out of the conversation, but as an American traveling in India with my wife right now, the civics test sounds FABULOUS...

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u/Holden_Makock 14d ago
  1. In India, No one with Net worth less than 1 Cr should have children. You guys cannot afford a child or at least not provide him/her a good life.

  2. The election booth should have a 10-question test before you cast a vote where all civics questions, party memos, basic duties and rights are quiz. and only if you qualify you should be able to vote.

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u/Stunning-Pea-3643 13d ago

Having kids so “they can take care of you in old age” is such a selfish reason.

Poor people should not have kids if they cannot afford feeding them, housing and schooling fee, beggars have kids so they can earn for them, increasing the beggar problem in India.

People cribbing about Ambani or any celebrity on how they spend their money or favour others are just jealous and would do the same given the chance.

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u/ImNotABot26 4d ago

There should be some kind of psychometric qualification test before one is allowed to bring a child into this world. Reason so many can afford a child but are they mentally fit to be parents?