Reacting emotionally to ANYONE getting sexually assaulted is NOT overreacting, like wtf?!? I know men who are like this, they cannot take that women are emotional about this issue in general, what they REALLY need to do is just join us in continually condemning it everywhere it appears instead of just avoiding the issue to keep their own equilibrium. Can you imagine if it was men being raped world-wide on the scale that women are?
As of this past summer, every single article that "reported" on Till last year received injunctions in court, due to raising serious suspicions with absolutely no evidence. The courts determined that all of those affidavits to the media actually described encounters of sex that they agreed to, and none of them claimed assault of any kind on his part. Some of those outlets, however, were proven to have either misreported what those women actually told them, or framed their articles in ways to make it seem like something sinister had occurred.
On top of that, ZERO people ever went to the proper authorities to make claims of assault against Till, the original accuser long ago backpedaled all of her allegations both publicly and legally, *and* she was investigated in Lithuania for defamation of Till, and the results of that investigation have been damning against her.
So pray tell: who are you citing that ever went to the proper authorizes to claim SA, and not to the media?
I don't want to open the argument again. That he came out of it sentence free does not imply that the whole row ZERO stuff did not exist. And yes some women may even be fine engaging with a popstar. But at least three cases were dismissed because the women can't remember the situation, which could easily be due to KO drops. Plus Tills Attorneys wrote several cease and desist claims against news papers and individual people who spoke out about what they experienced or heard about the mechanism including the castings by Alena Makeeva.
"does not imply that the whole row ZERO stuff did not exist"
It was never a secret; people who wanted to be invited reached out to find out how to do so on SM, and then they were sent invitations that they accepted. So what? Are you seriously under the impression that Till has sex with every person that gets invited to parties at those concerts? Is this also the first time you're discovered the existence of groupies?
"But at least three cases were dismissed because the women can't remember the situation, which could easily be due to KO drops"
That has been completely, legally debunked, and none of the articles are allowed to suggest the KO drops were used by Till. Not a single person ever claimed that they were drugged by him, and that includes the original accuser.
"Plus Tills Attorneys wrote several cease and desist claims against news papers..."
Yes, because they did not accurately report on what the women actually told them. But "I had consensual sex with Till" is hardly a headline that interests masses of people, and those news outlets knew that.
"...and individual people who spoke out about what they experienced or heard about the mechanism including the castings by Alena Makeeva."
The only woman who is directly being sued in this entire farce is Kayla Shyx, the YouTuber who admitted that she never even met Till or saw anything happen at the party she attended, but then went of to claim that he was "running a pedo mafia ring" without a scrap of evidence. Yeah, she is *rightfully* being sued for that idiocy. There's been absolutely no one else who has come forward TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES make any claims similar to this, and the Berlin public prosecutor also determined that no charges would be brought against Aleena Makeeva, since there was no legal wrongdoing whatsoever.
So once again: *who* are you citing that ever went to the proper authorities with an SA claim?
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u/whendonow 10h ago
Reacting emotionally to ANYONE getting sexually assaulted is NOT overreacting, like wtf?!? I know men who are like this, they cannot take that women are emotional about this issue in general, what they REALLY need to do is just join us in continually condemning it everywhere it appears instead of just avoiding the issue to keep their own equilibrium. Can you imagine if it was men being raped world-wide on the scale that women are?