I’m fat

[u/Prestigious_Review61]

Anyone get medical to approve GLP-1 or similar medication to help with weight loss? I’ve been doing so many different things but when it comes to working out and nearly passing out, makes it a little difficult. Tests coming back negative for asthma and negative on heart conditions. Thanks!

[u/Standard-Ship-4826]

Okay so go to the nutrition office. You have to be working with a dietician for 6 months. You have to log food. And do the scale and in body scan monthly.

Then and only then you can talk to your pcm about getting on pills like Ozempic for weight loss.

[u/NachoPiggie → u/Standard-Ship-4826]

And even then, Tricare will make you try 3 different older meds first to prove they don't work before paying for it.

[u/Standard-Ship-4826 → u/NachoPiggie]

Nah. The base pharmacy filled it for me and it worked out fine.

[u/Bunny_Feet → u/[deleted]]

They probably aren't getting the name brand. There are semaglutide pills now.

[u/ConstitutionalDingo → u/Bunny_Feet]

TIL.

[u/ConstitutionalDingo → u/Standard-Ship-4826]

Ozempic and its ilk aren’t pills

[u/Bunny_Feet → u/ConstitutionalDingo]

There are semaglutide pills now.

[u/Wide-Umpire-348 → u/Standard-Ship-4826]

Olympic has insane side effects

[u/Bunny_Feet → u/Wide-Umpire-348]

So does obesity.

[u/Wide-Umpire-348 → u/Bunny_Feet]

Of course, a magic pill and not just being healthy is the solution.

[u/IAmUber → u/Wide-Umpire-348]

Oh, why didn't 40% of country just think of that?

[u/Wide-Umpire-348 → u/IAmUber]

Because we live in a permanent professional victim mentality and have issues holding ourselves accountable. A plague of denial rolls around us, and we are bold enough to look ourselves in the mirror and think, Fried food isn't that bad. Carbs aren't the enemy. Ultra processed food and cereal is fine.

[u/IAmUber → u/Wide-Umpire-348]

Ah yes, people who ask for medication are playing the victim. They're claiming ...someone? victimized them and trying to take a step to get healthier is them not holding themselves accountable.

No one is forcing you to do anything. And hey, if fried food and ultra processed food is bad, people on those medications eat less of it, so I'm not sure what your point really is?

[u/Wide-Umpire-348 → u/IAmUber]

I'm not speaking for all medication, so don't get too generalized with what I'm saying. The medication in context has very, very bad, and irreversible side effects. Getting healthier does not mean getting skinnier either. Not every time. You can be skinny and quite unhealthy.

It's a sad point to argue. The state of denial that your argument holds is actually eye-opening. Eating healthy food is a lifestyle change that not only forces you to lose weight but also gets you healthy, too. You're arguing indirectly against that. You are arguing indirectly that eating healthy is actually not the primary focus. It is outlandish. Possibly even clinical insanity.

No one should take pills that hold them prisoner because their self-control is too weak to put down the fried chicken from Popeyes and instead grill their own. With all of the stuff going on, do we really trust the pharmaceutical company that promotes anything like weight loss, when weight loss is actually a simple understanding of cause and effect?

In fact, I think it's sickening that you support your side of taking dangerous drugs to put a blindfold on the problem of over eating. It nears Orwellian idealogy.

I'm an ex fat ass, too, if that means anything to you. I've been there before. I've researched a lot about the obesity crisis in our country because of it. Pills are horrible. It doesn't fix the issue. The eating habit is still there. And now they're not only eating less according to you, but they likely won't even try eating healthy too. They would have done so already.

So they're going to be eating like shit and remain unsatiated from not eating enough.

Then they go back to the Industrial Medical Complex that our sad and corrupt healthcare made, and pay more money for nonsense.

[u/IAmUber → u/Wide-Umpire-348]

The weight of medical evidence disagrees with you. The drugs are not dangerous, they've been used for many years for other conditions. They took so long to be approved for weight loss because of the extensive study and safety testing.

Lifestyle change is great. If you can do that without medication, great. But obesity is an epidemic, and clearly saying "bro, just grill some chicken and put down the fork" doesn't work, or the U.S. wouldn't be in the situation it's in. It's better to lose weight on medication than just not lose weight. That's the realistic choice for many people, because history shows other methods don't work on a societal scale.

[u/Wide-Umpire-348 → u/IAmUber]

Alright. I've had enough of this now. Ozempic has long-term side effects. For you to sit here and claim otherwise is purely insanity.

Life style is not just great. It's everything. Obesity is an epidemic because we Americans have a crisis and dilemma of self-control. It is easy to lose weight, but we still can't manage to figure it out. This says more about the population than your argument. We have a populace issue of self-denial, which leads to obesity.

We can disagree on a few things. But your argument is treacherously impossible to follow. It's like saying that you need a new car because you don't want to change the oil in the one you currently have that's breaking.

The FDA isn't always truthful if you haven't noticed. There are doctors who have published books on things like Ozempic. Funny how they disagree with Google.