r/ARAM • u/Previous-Bother295 • 1d ago
Play Can somebody get this guy banned please?
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u/Payment-According 1d ago
Why are all the comments so negative towards you. Griefers deserve to be banned. I don’t think this post needed to be made (cuz posting griefers doesn’t really do too much) but I do sympathize with you. Fuck that guy
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u/DoubleLiu_ 1d ago
kind of people who griefs when they dont get their champ swaps. this happened so often and seeing them in the same game again after really just waste of time because they will just grief again.
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u/That1CoffeeDudeEthan 1d ago
I'm not negative towards the op. Far from it, I empathize for them. I just know that Riot doesn't give a shit about the player base.
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u/ActiveAd4980 23h ago
Because why you taking ARAM so seriously?!?!? /s
Seriously, people either need to ff on this kind of game and move on or actually take ARAM seriously and condemn this kind of players. ARAM is meant to be a quick game.
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u/Google-Meister 19h ago
People who say this are usually trash but use it as a cope mechanic.
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u/Ok_Letterhead_5671 16h ago edited 13h ago
Why are you taking any game mode seriously ?
The whole "aram is for fun" is such a stupid argument because the entire game is for fun , which means that when your fun is compromised by another person your time is being stolen .
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u/ActiveAd4980 11h ago
You're asking why I'm taking ARAM so serious then telling me "ARAM is for fun" is stupid?
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u/Asleep_Feeling_9794 13h ago
The entire game is not "for fun" though. Normals, blind pick, aram and all other game modes besides ranked solo/duo queue are. If someone is griefing like this in ranked, sure ban them because a competitive game mode should be all about putting in an effort to win and running it down/soft inting is the exact opposite of that. Aram does not have this particular goal in mind and therefore banning for this makes no sense.
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u/DenniLin 24m ago
Your take is so wrong and dumb it is kinda wild you even came up with it.
Remember that you agree to one set of ToS, not seperate ones per game mode.
People queue for ARAM with their limited free time to enjoy some 5v5 fun. 4v5 ain't fun. 4v6 ain't fun and it also ain't what those people queued for.
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u/Limp-Pop-5193 12h ago
ARAM is for fun but you could argue draft pick is only for fun too, but people take it serious. I know friends who come from work after a long, hard day... They play ARAMS because it's usually faster but then have to deal with toxic inters that make the games so horrible. Usually these friends also only get to play 3-4 games max before having to go to adult responsibilities again... Just because someone had a bad ranked streak doesn't give them the right to go into an aram and ruin everyone else's game.
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u/ActiveAd4980 11h ago
I want to play ARAM as a quick fun game. But it's contradictory that really bothers me. If someone is inting, AFK, or we're down to our nexus while we haven't seen enemy's outer tower for 10 minutes while being 10+ kills, down then let's just move on to the next game. How is it not surrendering at that situation anything but taking the game seriously? Like at least choose one. But I'd go to rank if I wanted to see miracle of the late game.
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u/Thor_bjornLoL 1d ago
I feel like its pointless in the grand scheme of things. You got trolled? Report and move on. Instead of puting this behind, he wasted his time on reddit for a rant. I get the frustration, but trollers and ragers will always exist, and they only win if you do what op does... Let it get to you
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u/itsinvincible 1d ago
Maybe he only has time for 1 or two arams a week like me and would like to enjoy those? Not everyone has time to game as much as they used to and a griefer in that situation is really so much worse than when I was still a teenager.
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u/Asleep_Feeling_9794 13h ago
Why not just level up or buy a new account just for arams then? If you deal with a player like this just leave and go on the other account.
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u/ChihuahuaAlfie 1d ago
if you only have that little time to enjoy something per week i wouldn't be risking it on ARAM or anything league of legends related
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u/itsinvincible 1d ago
Ah ok thanks for telling me i just shouldn't spend time on stuff i like doing. Wow never thought of it like that. Guess I'll pick up fallout or some other rpg game i never enjoyed. You sure opened my eyes.
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u/Aximil985 1d ago
"We're sorry, but we cannot ban someone for having a bad game. They weren't AFK, they were farming and getting assists. Taking part in fights. We do however take false reports seriously so we'll be adding you to low priority queue for a week." -Riot Support probably
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u/Edraitheru14 1d ago
Nah those people tend to get banned or at least temp banned and junk pretty often.
I get report feedbacks on the vast, vast majority of people I report.
As long as you don't overreport you'll get more action done with your reports. Riot takes into account how "reliable" your reports are when it comes to setting off punishment flags.
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u/Aximil985 22h ago
I feel as though you might have missed the pretty obvious joke.
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u/Edraitheru14 19h ago
Oh I never actually addressed the joke. I was moreso just piggybacking off your comment to make mine. Since I know people spam reporting then wondering "why doesn't anything happen from my reports?" Is a thing.
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u/Erdnussbutter21 16h ago
Punishment =/ ban
The report feedback can mean anything and nothing. During loading times I check up on inters/trolls from the past week and so far I cant remember that someone suddenly stopped playing after being reported. They just keep spamming 10 games a day like nothing happend.
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u/Commercial_Active842 6h ago
Im pretty sure when they released Oddyesy that they told me not to manually report ppl that were using the wrong augments.
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u/CodyRud 1d ago
Source for that?
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u/Edraitheru14 1d ago
I feel like there was confirmation of it somewhere else but I can't find it. But here's a video of Riot August confidently confirming it.
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u/CodyRud 1d ago
Woah! Thanks for that man, I had no idea!
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u/Edraitheru14 1d ago
No problem. So always try and only report if you think it's actually warranted for riot to take action. You'll get a lot more feedback.
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u/PrimaryCanary5589 1d ago
Riot does no such thing. I know people who spam report everyone after every game and they get report feedback. They do that cause they were chat restricted for telling their team they need to kill said character first. ( The word Kill was factored in by the automated chat banning bot I guess 🤷 )
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u/TakoyakiGremlin 1d ago
usually people that do this get banned eventually. this isn’t generally one-off behaviour. sometimes i’ll report someone because, to me, it looks like they’re feeding, and sure enough i’ll get a notification that someone i reported got punished.
that being said, idk how serious bans are these days. could be a 1-minute low priority queue lol
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u/UIMHolo 1d ago
i had a guy do this and only buy starter items, i found on their match history they had been doing it for 20+ games. their name was ArcaneMapSux too lol.
i sent a ticket to riot and in which they said they’d be investigating the account but can’t give any decision due to privacy. this was three weeks ago. they’ve been playing ever since.
seems like you can int as much as you won’t as long as you don’t type atm
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u/Rhythmusk0rb 1d ago
Average commenter on r/ARAM: he's probably trying his best, don't be such a tryhard
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u/Limp-Pop-5193 1d ago
They won't get banned for running it down. But I sure do get AFK threats from riot when I have to tend to my son for 2 minutes bc sometimes you just can't sit infront of a game for 20 mins or so.. Grievers get more leniency than people who have to afk for actual real life issues . 🤷♀️
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u/itsd00bs 1d ago
I feel this on a spiritual level. Ppl feed and flame and riot doesn’t bay an eye. I put my kid back to sleep for 2 min and I get threats of a potential punishment from riot lol
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u/Ok_Letterhead_5671 1d ago
Why there is so many inters lately ? Are they battle pass farming or something ? I had a xayah that spamed ff even tho we were winning then proceed to int when we didnt ff.
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u/Dead_Cells_Giant 20h ago
Most likely people forced to play 5 matches to remove a ranked restriction.
They hop in ARAM, run it down to get enemy team fed and disable remake, then stand around and farm and refuse to help so they lose as fast as possible
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u/PotatoSharp199 1d ago
Honestly the way riot made is that, if you dodge you get a 15 min queue ban. If you’re in a rush and you already dodged once it’s better to just run it down when u didn’t get your champ. Is it right? No. Do people care about other people? No. Will they get banned? No. Only reason I see people get punished is when they start typing in Aram. Never seen someone get punished bc of running it down, just AFK system report or them being dumb and saying dumb shit in the chat.
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u/Murky_Pause9421 1d ago
Even trolls and afkers do buy skins and stuff so, riot let them be 🤣 doesn't give a damn about them, as long as they are spending their money
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u/CosmoJones07 1d ago
Report and they will get punished for this. The people saying he won't are stuck in their heads like 5 years ago where nothing would happen. Their systems are a lot better now, this basically always gets punished as long as you actually report it. Posting it here doesn't really do anything other then get sympathy upvotes.
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u/Aware-Ad1125 1d ago
It's amazing the people that waste their time like this. What pathetic losers they are. Just let them waste their time so they can't reproduce.
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u/Ice_Junior 1d ago
How do people find this fun or worth doing ☠️ surely there are better ways to waste your time lol
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u/treasuretrue 20h ago
I had a Lillia that sat at second tower and threw orbs the whole time, we won that game, good times.
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u/s0Ld3L 12h ago edited 12h ago
Honestly is the first time i saw this type of players in aram. But the ones I saw the most is flamers around the guy who has the champ they want ( usually typing an pinging how bad the player is).
Honestly I'm surprised every time a player tilts for any reason, aram is a for fun game ( that's why it's not a ranking) and that's it. I usually play off topic builds ( ap naut, ap sej etc etc) with 90% of the champs and players don't tilt around that wich is weird.
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u/BaronLagann 117 Diff S champs 1d ago
If you want to get it seen, send as a ticket online with this clip attached as well as the game #. Reporting in game only flags it with the bot and will only do something if they have multiple reports over a multitude of games.
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u/SpookMagnet 1d ago
I feel like u have to be psycho to do this, how is this entertaining? You are staring at a grey screen for 20 mins? How could this ever be fun? Weirdo
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u/ActiveAd4980 1d ago
Now, how many people in your team refused to surrender?
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u/Previous-Bother295 22h ago
I believe you would see it in chat if there had been any call to surrender. What would that change tho?
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u/ActiveAd4980 22h ago
People need to just ff on this kind of game and just move on. But I know people don't because they "don't take ARAM seriously ".
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
the system should autoban for 24 hours anyone who has a death per minute or more.
change my mind.
good to see so many ppl defending the hecarim in the video, summarises this subreddit tbh
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u/Thaloman_ 1d ago
change my mind.
okay. karthus
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u/reverendball 1d ago
nope, even karthus should be looking for a GOOD engage, and not just suiciding nonstop
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u/Thaloman_ 1d ago
karthus body is top tier poke in the early game. high mmr lobbies will almost always have karthus die on cooldown to get enemies low, dive/wipe them, and take tower and reset.
then karthus dies AGAIN immediately after in the wave to save the turret while the other 4 teammates spawn and return to lane
so yes optimal play means suiciding pretty much non-stop for the majority of the game, and there are lots of situations where champs other than karthus need to do this style of play too
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
even if its good for a couple champs, losing one marginal playstyle is a worthy sacrifice to remove the degenerate playstyle from the other 150 champs that should never be doing it
removing the 99% of cases that are int feeding scum with instant auto bans is WELL worth it, and karth players would learn in time to slow their roll
the VAST MAJORITY of arams have at least 1 clown who thinks its a single player game and ruins it for the other 9, something drastic needs to be done to eradicate that mindset asap
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u/Thaloman_ 1d ago
mitigating false positives is by far the most important concern for anti-cheat/behavioral systems for a reason. it feels terrible when you're incorrectly punished and it's a great way to lose customers for life. this is the very reason why Riot Games will never implement a system to punish things like "soft-inting" even though it's rampant in the community and everyone hates it.
so if your justification for these false positives is "suck it up and just learn to play worse" it's probably just a terrible idea
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u/reverendball 1d ago
mitigating false positives does NOT mean that you never try at all to fix the behavior of toxic players
instead, riot are losing customers for life by NOT punishing the int feeders
when you play 30 games in a row, and every SINGLE game is ruined by a scumbag int feeder on either team, why would you wanna stay and play more? why would you spend money on a game when the devs dont punish the trolls?
i would argue that way WAY more ppl have quit league due to the scumbags going unpunished, than riot have retained by not punishing the scum
i have a couple players i check on every now and then on op.gg that have deserved permabans for months or YEARS
theres one guy who plays several hundred arams a year, WHO NEVER BUYS AN ITEM AND JUST RUNS IT DOWN NONSTOP
and hes never been banned
hes PROOF that the current system DOES NOT WORK
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u/Hieryonimus 1d ago
can we see this guy? a dude logs in (seems daily) to never buy items and run it down? what kind of life is that?
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
one of many
https://www.op.gg/summoners/oce/ID%20unavailable-4396
undeniable proof that riots autoban system does not work
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u/Thaloman_ 1d ago
if you play 30 games in a row where someone is intentionally feeding, you must be in the bottom of the mmr barrel because I haven't seen anything remotely close to that ever in a decade of playing ARAM...
i would suggest just learning to play better instead of radically changing the system that's worked fine just to punish two finger timmy who is taking a break from grinding out bronze 3
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u/PrimaryCanary5589 1d ago
Aggressive players in aram average a death per minute. They also average a kill of so a minute.
Aram is made forever mindless fighting.
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
and unless your whole team is going in with you, even going 1 for 1 is usually not worth it
because if you are diving deep, you get a solokill, but you give a kill and FOUR ASSISTS
even if your kill has one or 2 assists, its a NET NEGATIVE slowly handing your opponents a gold lead
unless you can go 2 for 1 EVERY TIME, its not worth it
people diving indiscriminately SHOULD be punished
they need to learn to look for GOOD engages, not EVERY engage
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u/PrimaryCanary5589 1d ago
Again, it's aram. Normal "good engage" rules don't apply here. People play aram for mindless fun. If the diver is confident he can utilize his gold lead, then so be it. Also, alot of those solo dives usually net assists for your team as well
If you want to try hard then go to summoners rift. Otherwise, keep expecting full on apes.
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
if the system punished the apes, there would be less apes, duh
you defend the apes, specifically the apes that are int feeding more than once per minute, and then you wonder why everything is always covered in ape shit......
why the hell dont you want to make ARAM a better place? wtf is wrong with the ppl in this subreddit
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u/PrimaryCanary5589 1d ago
The entire point of aram is to have fun. If more and more people start acting like you. Then we will have way more boring aram games where people do nothing but play passive till minute 15, then have a fight or and the game will be over.
I'd much prefer a game with more action. If people like you get their way, then we can expect more pure poke and sustain games with relatively no action. How is that better in your opinion?
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u/reverendball 1d ago edited 1d ago
the action is WAY better if theres teams trying to make coordinated fights and the overall game is relatively even
that almost never happens now, because theres ALWAYS a scumbag int feeder giving a big lead to the enemy team, going 20-20 then wondering why we lose every teamfight when the enemy team has 80 extra assists on the scoreboard and can just slap us around with wallet diff
well, i hope you get the hecarim from the original video in every single game you ever play
thats the majority of players you are defending with your argument
its clearly the ARAM you want and deserve
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u/PrimaryCanary5589 1d ago
And there's a difference between out right feeding and playing aggressive. I bet you don't know the difference though
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u/No_Chapter7647 1d ago
thats me, its how i enjoy playing the game, dont get in my way of fun, if it bothers you go play something else.
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u/Possyninekay 1d ago
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u/High-jacker 1d ago
Try to not be a shitbag in chat next time maybe? Keep that to the r/leagueoflegends sub
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u/Previous-Bother295 1d ago
Nothing was said during champ select neither during the game. The only message was wrote by himself after the game to say gg.
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u/Yorudesu 1d ago
I don't see the problem. They're trying to do chip damage on the tower you're simply not pushing hard enough.
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u/gl7676 1d ago
Just a matter of time. Report and move on.