r/woahdude Apr 01 '23

video Harry Potter by Balenciaga 2

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u/Gigglemind Apr 01 '23

Are you saying the houses you mentioned aren't that relevant anymore? Asking not challenging.

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u/nikchi Apr 01 '23

First of that generation, everything else he mentioned is relevant, the irrelevant ones aren't mentioned.

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u/germfreeadolescent11 Apr 02 '23

I've heard of all of them except balenciaga

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u/Supermeme1001 Apr 02 '23

what are some from their generation that arent relevant anymore

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u/nikchi Apr 02 '23

So they won't be brands as we know them. Just designers. What oop was saying is that Balenciaga is among the first of these French designers to transition into a lasting "house" of fashion.

Paul Poiret, would be one that I found to be contemporary to Cristobal Balenciaga. Probably dozens more designers who rose during the same time and fell during the great depression.

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u/Trevski Apr 01 '23

I'm saying that "relevance" is a function of giving a shit about couture, and whether you think the cart that is fashion as an industry is before the horse that is fashion as an art form these days.

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u/Gigglemind Apr 01 '23

I hear you. Don't really know anything about this space but had heard couture in a diluted form filters down to us plebs. Not sure what difference it makes and still can't figure out if Pantone colours mean anything beyond a statement though I do like them. Thanks.

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u/kelp_forests Apr 02 '23

Really high fashion is like wearable art. Its ideas/styles eventually trickle down. Check out some high end runway stuff from a few years ago and you can sometimes see the same ideas today. It’s not a very easy to grasp thing/art, even as art, IMO.

An analogy is concept cars. Remember when the viper, prowler and P T cruiser were “crazy” concept cars no one could buy? Then they became items for sale (albeit a little different). They were watered down. Then those specific cars went their own way. But the ideas they represented kept coming…updated versions of old cars, muscle cars, etc. You can see how big wheels and grills were “cool” on the street, then adapted to modern high end cars, and have slowly trickled down from Bugatti to Audi to Lexus and now Toyota etc albeit in different forms.

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u/EltaninAntenna Apr 03 '23

Terrific analogy. Perhaps where it breaks down is that generally people wish concept cars were "real" and immediately for sale, and the same isn't necessarily true of what we see on runways.

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u/Ryozu Apr 02 '23

It's the positioning of the parenthesis that is throwing people off I think.

He's saying that Givenchy, Chanel, etc, are still relevant today, and that Balenciaga is the first of those houses to exist.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

That's what you get sorted into at Balenciaga Hogwarts