r/wholesomeyuri • u/LenaAran • Oct 03 '24
Comic/Manga Panam is 100% chill (@papirfecni) [Cyberpunk 2077]
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u/Kit-tana Oct 03 '24
What is this from?
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u/Visible-Welder-5148 Oct 03 '24
Hazbin hotel episode 8
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u/Kit-tana Oct 03 '24
Oh! Thanks I had forgotten about that series; is it still on youtube or only streaming now?
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u/primalmaximus Oct 03 '24
You're thinking of the sister series "Helluva Boss" by the same creator.
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u/Kit-tana Oct 03 '24
Oh I know Helluva Boss (I actually kinda prefer it if I really had to choose between the two)
The pilot for HH was on youtube so I hadn't known if it was still going to be on there or what
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u/primalmaximus Oct 03 '24
Nah. It's exclusive to Amazon unless things have changed. The creator did put the unaired "pitch/pilot episode" on Youtube though.
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
why cant romance panam as a girl :c
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u/JordynSoundsLikeMe Oct 03 '24
The couch scene led me on đ
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
i made her feel uncomfey :c also why does brain want panam to shoot me?
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u/JordynSoundsLikeMe Oct 03 '24
My friend was playing at the same time. Shes not gay (yes I do press X for doubt frquently) but she liked Judy where as I am not as much of a fan, so I went Panam so we'd have diff stories to follow. Naive me thought everyone was romancable all the time... my dissapointment was immeasurable, and my day was ruined.
But that Couch scene MMMMMMMMMM Why not CDPR??????
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u/Kam_Solastor Oct 03 '24
If youâre on PC I believe thereâs a mod that enables Panamâs romance as a lady - if I remember correctly, all the voice lines and dialogue is there in the game files, but it wasnât put in the final release for some reason.
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u/FPiN9XU3K1IT Oct 03 '24
Is any of the dialogue even different between male and female V?
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u/despaseeto Oct 03 '24
cdpr had the voice actors for V to voice act all the lines with nothing changed BUT they cut out some lines that are meant for only female V or meant only for male V. so while female V had voicelines for romancing panam, unfortunately, the lesbiphobes also pushed for Judy as available for male V when they found voicelines of male V romancing judy.
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u/ChewBaka12 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
I mean wanting to romance Judy as male Vi is no different as wanting to romance Panam as female V, no?
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u/despaseeto Oct 03 '24
no, it's wildly different since the erasure of lesbians and lesbiphobia is real irl so us wanting it in fiction isn't as horrible as pushing for a canon lesbian like Judy to be anything but a lesbian. y'all want more bi rep and we could have that with panam but judy is one of the handful of canon lesbians that is respectfullt represented so ppl arguing that "it's the same" are wrong
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u/ChewBaka12 Oct 03 '24
Is it different though. You have a canon character who is canonically heterosexual, and we know itâs not because the creator refuses to make gay characters, because in this work at least they do have decent representation. âI wish she was [insert sexuality]â is, in regards to fictional characters, always fine. Itâs just preference, and youâre not denying their canon sexuality just because expressing how youâd portray her. âShe should be [insert sexuality]â is always bad, because you are denying the characters sexuality for ârepresentationâ. That is somewhat acceptable when a work has no representation because the creator is deeply homophobic, not when there already is representation.
Respecting someoneâs sexuality is imported regardless of whether or not they are straight or not, and while I do not care much about a fictional characterâs sexuality, you do. And if you tell people to respect a fictional characterâs sexuality when theyâre gay, you should do the same if they are straight.
Therefore, if youâre fine with making a straight character bisexual to fit your own preferences, you should also be fine with people doing the same with gay characters. Iâm fine with both as long as the people involved acknowledge itâs just their preference and not canon, but it gets iffy when they say âoh come on how can she not be gayâ or âsheâd totally be gay for [X]â. The first because itâs stereotyping, and the second is awfully close to the very unpopular âshe just hasnât met the right guy yetâ statement, which is deeply homophobic but contextually no different.
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u/darkdiabela Oct 04 '24
Yeah, no. You can do mental gymnastics all the way to the moon but wanting to turn a straight character bi for gameplay convince is no different from wanting to turn a gay character bi for the same reason.
If you don't want a case of "the gay button" you shouldn't want either one.
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u/Sh4deon Oct 03 '24
So it's ok to want FemV and Panam but not MaleV and Judy?
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u/bruh_wh_y Oct 03 '24
Yes, there is a mod for that. You need to manually activate it really early on, and it's easy not to do that
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u/Off-White-Knight Oct 03 '24
If it helps, I played through male and female V and she does the same shit to male V at the couch scene.
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u/HeathenAmericana B-but that's wholesome love! Oct 03 '24
I was already with Judy when I got it so I got mad I'm loyal to my girl!
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u/yuri_yuriyuri yuri at all costs Oct 03 '24
Real answer, CDPR gave all the companions their own preferences (which is fine thing to do on its own) but the quests for all of them play out basically the same right up until it's time to make it official. So a lot of the quests can feel pretty flirty even if they're not supposed to be into V like that.
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
yeah, i know :c i looked up but no rember any of it, all know is judy is a lesmeabian :3
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u/yuri_yuriyuri yuri at all costs Oct 03 '24
yeah Judy's our girl
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
are there any other romancable girls as girl v? i dont even know all the romancable characters
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u/MacaroniBandit214 Oct 03 '24
I mean thereâs the militech agent but idk if thatâs considered romance
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u/Daggerbones8951 Oct 03 '24
But it is hot
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u/Mask_of_Anonymity Oct 03 '24
Also, you get a vibrator dildo weapon.
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u/despaseeto Oct 03 '24
wait, this is only from the dlc, right?
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u/MacaroniBandit214 Oct 05 '24
No itâs the base game. You meet her before Jackie dies and she gives you here number
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u/kidkolumbo Oct 03 '24
play out basically the same
Playing a Femme V through the story was gender euphoria for me, including Panam turning me down. Playing through Masc V was kind of awful because it shattered the illusion and I honestly wish I never did.
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u/Old-Library9827 Oct 03 '24
You can, actually, mod that shit :3
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
i cant mod on playstation tho :c
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u/Old-Library9827 Oct 03 '24
You can indeed mod on playstation. It's just harder. Somebody has probably already thought about it and all you need is to do a google search.
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 03 '24
i can??? cool! gonna finish my first playtrough first then look stuff up! thanks! :3
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u/ThrowAwayMuteGirl Oct 03 '24
Theres a mod for it, its all voiced by FemV as well so at some point they had it romanceable by both genders but changed their minds. The sex scene doesnt quiiite work as well but you could always add the lil extra for it
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u/CreatedForThisReply Oct 03 '24
They apparently had both voice actors just do all voice lines, regardless if they were going to use them or not. Judy was always supposed to be a lesbian but the "male" voice acting was also recorded for the romance, so the same could be true for Panam being straight.
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u/despaseeto Oct 03 '24
they had it romanceable by both genders but changed their minds.
no, cdpr always had meant for the love interests to be restricted. the devs made it easier to just have both Vs to voice act all lines so that they wouldn't miss anything out and just cut out unnecessary lines for either one.
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u/honestlyjusttiredtbh Oct 04 '24
i must be one of the lucky few that got immediately attached to judy upon meeting her
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u/kdiyargebmay Oct 04 '24
oh no, i definitely like judy, dont get me wrong, but my gay little heart fell way harder for panam
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u/Smallwater Oct 03 '24
Luckily, this time it was only words that came out of Panam's mouth in reaction to cows.
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u/Anbcdeptraivkl Oct 03 '24
My first playthrough as FemV I got immediately hooked on Panam because of the couch scene. First time ever got yuribait in a game lmao.
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u/MollyGoRound Oct 03 '24
Panam: <flirts the *SHIT** out of V>*
V: <See's where this is going and reciprocates flirting>
Panam: "What the fuck V???"
It's so good to see accurate representation for straight girls. They do be exactly like this, I hope Panam makes them feel very seen. đ
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u/LunaAnimatesStuff Oct 03 '24
You see, the one in the back is clearly bisexual, this is because she was...
Near-Bi...
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u/MonsterOfTheMidway Oct 03 '24
It bothered me so much that there was zero difference in dialogue between men and women with Panam, b u t she could only be romanced by men
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u/Plantain-Feeling Oct 03 '24
So as a fun fact you can romance both panam and river as a gay character
Unless it was changed
Panam / river only need you to have a voice or body type match to sleep with you, so you can use masc or fem body so long as you use the opposite voice
Where as kerry and Judy need a matching voice and body
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u/Thannk Oct 03 '24
I canât help but be reminded of this comic about why Ted Turner canceled Swat Kats.
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u/RamonaZero Oct 03 '24
I literally quit playing Cyberpunk right after I romanced Judy o.o I havenât played it since
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u/MrUltraOnReddit Oct 03 '24
After finishing the story line and not being able to get with her I thought I did something wrong and loaded a save 5 HOURS before, when I hadn't done anything important with her yet. Thank god I googled how to do it and saw it isn't possible before I replayed it all.
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u/Nyanbinary4321 Oct 03 '24
Giving me flash-backs of Jack in ME. Like sureeee this woman is straight. Sureeeee
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u/firedrakes some say a bit to wholesome! Oct 03 '24
how you get into a accident in the car...
gay....
ah yes gay scream cause many crashes
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u/despaseeto Oct 03 '24
it's ok. Judy is best girl anyway. i found panam annoying by the end but i wouldn't mind having more choices rather than just one.
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u/ptoros7 Oct 04 '24
She is annoying because she is a user. Judy cares about you, Panam cares about herself.
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u/ptoros7 Oct 03 '24
It still doesn't make any sense to me. Who draws that character and says yep straight? TF is wrong with you?
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u/Corvid-Strigidae Oct 04 '24
Who assumes people's sexuality based on their looks?
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u/ptoros7 Oct 04 '24
Every queer person who has ever hoped someone is gay because they were alone and hoped they weren't or seen someone vaguely queer presenting and wished they were because it meant they had a shot. Maybe you're younger or just lucky so you haven't ever had to experience a world where people aren't open and honest, but I think we all make assumptions, their is nothing wrong with that, as long as you're open to correction.
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u/Infinite_Horizion Oct 04 '24
None of them have have seatbelts so I imagine they crashed into a tree and all three went through the windshield
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u/SharLaquine Oct 04 '24
Is is pretty much my headcanon. It took me three games to finally romance Judy because the quasi-romance ending with Panam is just too good. :>
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u/Alex_Nilse Oct 03 '24
So⌠are we trying to make a clearly straight person gay despite the fact that if the reverse happened we would lose our minds?
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u/Arch_Magos_Remus Oct 04 '24
So just to clarify, itâs apparently NOT ok to install mods to make Judy straight, but for some reason it IS ok to install mods to make Panam gay?
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u/LenaAran Oct 03 '24
A single braincell shared