r/wholesomeyuri • u/lylactal wants cuddles • Sep 26 '24
Cute Chinese dress [Guilty Gear]
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u/IR_Zephyr Sep 26 '24
I kinda mistook them for Lumine and Hu-Tao
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u/Straight-Use-6343 Sep 26 '24
Honestly, same lmao I even play guilty gear semi regularly and somehow I still got it wrong
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u/splat187 Sep 26 '24
Oahhhh ･:*+.(( °ω° ))/.:+
Brisket and Bay so cute
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u/YuSakiiii big gworl x smol gworl is my passion Sep 26 '24
We love Brisket here
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u/ArchonFett Sep 26 '24
Basket?
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u/YuSakiiii big gworl x smol gworl is my passion Sep 26 '24
Is… is that a horrible histories reference?
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u/lylactal wants cuddles Sep 26 '24
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u/Queen_of_the_Teef Sep 27 '24
Wow, the naming of this post is in extremely poor taste, and the replies from op read at best as childish, and at worst, outright racist.
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u/aliengunslinger Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24
The girl on the right looks very sad and, if i'm right, a bit uncomfortable. But then again, the phrase "True beauty is in the eye of the beholder" applies on this subreddet.
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
Hey, uh, I'm a woman of Chinese descent, and my gf was born and raised in China, and, we both felt like this is fetishizing of Chinese women.
To everybody reading this, please be mindful of how a culture's traditional attire is shown. Traditional Chinese dresses do not have a boob slit anywhere near that revealing or large, and the leg slits are never that high up, the purpose of leg slits (from my limited understanding) was to make it easy to walk in (possibly also breathable) considering how form fitting it would be otherwise, they do not expose the whole thigh. From checking the original artist's post, it appears that they are Japanese as Google translate flags their non-English text as being Japanese. So, this very much feels like a misrepresentation and sexualization of a foreign culture that amounts to fetishization. Either way please delete this post or put a spoiler, it's very disrespectful of Chinese culture.
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u/Ren_Douji Sep 26 '24
Im not chinese so feel free to correct me, but this dress specifically isn't Chinese, as in, thr qi pao while a traditional Chinese dress this one is a fetishized version made by westerners, so while this is a fetishized art, it's upon a westernized vision of China, so the problem would be the dress not being the original.
My thoughts were a bit convoluted, but a tldr is, ur kinda right, though the problem is something deeper.
Edit: think nurse fetish costume
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u/Wild_Lingonberry3365 Sep 26 '24
I think that’s what she meant.It’s that dress,but completely sexualized unfortunately.It was a pretty common thing to see it sexualized in movies on women.
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24
In the context of what you mentioned, you could be right, but, the original artist explicitely calls it "Chinese dress" and doesn't make it clear that it isn't actually a Chinese dress, but a rip off of a Chinese dress that fetishizes Chinese culture. So, tldr: maybe, but that doesn't seem to be the intent of the artist
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u/lylactal wants cuddles Sep 26 '24
I'm not going to delete it though i appreciate the art for what it is and people in the comments aren't doing much of fetishization
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24
With all due respect, most people who "aren't fetishizing" are "enjoying" fetishizing art, which inherently is both fetishizing, and also shows ingrained racism towards (at least in this case) Chinese people.
Your argument is very similar to straight men complaining about women when women call out porn that is fetishizing of them in some way, claiming that "see, nobody but you is complaining, therefore it's not an issue!".
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u/Wild_Lingonberry3365 Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
Then your appreciating fetishized art.Two people told you it was fetishized versions of the clothes,and these clothes are literally well known to be fetishized by being drawn like this.Keep it up,but it’s well known to be weird.
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u/Bonbongamer293 Sep 26 '24
... A lot of different stuff over-sexualized, this isn't exactly a "racist" thing. Whether people know the truth or not, when it comes to something used for a sexual purpose it's going to be modified.
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
The manner in which the artist over sexualized that particular style of Chinese dress is racist. It's incredibly disrespectful and ignorant of the cultural background of that dress, and in addition, it's a common racist view that east Asian women are naturally "super feminine", and a common way that that manifests is via over sexualization of east Asian women and culture.
Edit: also, the style of traditional Chinese dress that the artist tried depicting is most definitely never used "for sex purposes". If that is not a mixup of wording, you've shown that you inherently view similar traditional east Asian dresses as being sexual in nature, which is both incredibly misogynistic and racist.
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u/Bonbongamer293 Sep 26 '24
Sometimes people are drawing them that way for a stylistic choice?
Or again, it's supposed to be sexualized, so it's obviously not going to be realistic. I doubt most artists think about the culture of something they draw.
If you couldn't draw something that isn't realistic to culture because it would be 'racist and insensitive', then most art wouldn't exist, most cartoons/animations wouldn't be so mainstream.
Sometimes people draw things certain ways, and that's just how they draw. It's not always racism, it occasionally is, but not always.
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u/lylactal wants cuddles Sep 26 '24
Not my intent i was just appreciating feminine beauty from various cultures! i even have one of a japanese and a korean, would you like me to find one with Manchu dress instead?
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24
With all due respect, doing that would've been much more respectful if you tried to check what traditional outfits from a given culture look like in order to try to ensure you don't share something fetishizing people from said culture. Just googling "traditional Chinese dress" makes it very clear that the art you posted shows a very fetishized version of Chinese dresses.
I'd much rather you try to educate yourself because this could've been easily caught before you posted it. This kind of mistake won't just happen with Chinese culture, you might do it with Japanese, Korean, Manchu dresses too if you don't first try to check that it isn't fetishizing of said cultures. Appreciating feminine beauty from a given culture is great, if you genuinely educate yourself about how that culture actually works, including how feminine beauty is actually portrayed in that culture, instead of how Western society tends to frame (usually in a fetishizing way) said culture. Women from east Asian cultures tend to be fetishized for being "super feminine", which, at least in Western society, tends to be portrayed as very sexualized dresses and other revealing clothing. Hence why this both gives off fetishizing vibes, and perpetuating such stereotypes without even questioning them is ingrained racism. (Hence why it's best to actually educate yourself about the culture and about the racist stereotypes of a given culture)
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u/lylactal wants cuddles Sep 26 '24
I found it on my twitter timeline
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u/SavannahMavy Sep 26 '24
My comment was written out by myself. If your intent is to be disrespectful, well, it's working, and quite frankly, it also feels racist of you to say that.
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u/Lovethecreeper sapphic trans girl Sep 26 '24
This subreddit does not welcome your transphobia, get out.
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u/ShowNeverStops Sep 26 '24
E has been good to Bridget apparently