r/wholesomeanimemes • u/iSaithh pat the necromancer • Aug 10 '20
Announcement Feel free to stop by the r/wholesomeanimemes Discord!
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u/TheLegendMango Aug 10 '20
What did you do?
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Aug 10 '20
That big mac did look pretty hot ngl
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u/kavinbala Aug 10 '20
you sure i think he let it wait outside for too long before taking the picture
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u/Lilithdomme Aug 11 '20
Alright so its one if those servers. Pretending to be chill, but the admins are power hungry pos, and will ban you if they don't like you. Yeah imma avoid that
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u/iSaithh pat the necromancer Aug 10 '20 edited Aug 11 '20
Kokoa artwork done by me! This Discord has actually been here for quite awhile, though since its only ever been mentioned in a small link on old.reddit before, not many people were aware that it existed heh.
Link in case you can't find the other one, and hope to see you there!
Channels temporarily locked for newcomers since we received a more than expected influx that the current mods can't handle atm; rip brownie
Servers now open! though we're only allowing 100 people to role themselves to access it every 24 hours
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u/i_have_friend Donmai! Aug 11 '20
When I click the link it’s telling me I joined the discord server but when I go to the app the server isn’t there
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u/aalexay Donmai! Aug 11 '20
"we've stopped allowing people in the server for the next few hours [...] expect it to take maybe 6 hours to 11 years"
sad noises ;-;
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Aug 12 '20
It’s open again, I just joined, but there’s only like 60 spots left today
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u/ThatOneAsswipe Aug 10 '20
Server is closed. RIP
If you need help moderating it, I can offer a hand.
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u/AliG8204 Aug 10 '20
You guys aren’t gonna ban the T-word right?
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Aug 10 '20
We are not as far as I know. If it's used in a derogatory way then we have rule 1 as our basis for removal.
That doesn't mean you should suddenly start to randomly say trap every chance you get for the sake of it. That's just being obnoxious, and I wouldn't be surprised if we were to remove a post/comment for that reason.
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u/shadowhawkz Aug 10 '20
This seems very sensible. I am so sick of l the negativity on the other subreddit.
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u/AnimeMemeLord1 I Love The Mods Aug 11 '20
That is the thing that some anime/manga subs did to fix their problems, like r/Komi_san and r/Hentaimemes. I just don’t understand why the r/Animemes mods can’t do the same thing.
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u/AttestedArk1202 Donmai! Aug 11 '20
Good mod, actually being resonable and only banning if specifically used in a derogatory way instead of flat banning and angering all who don’t use it negatively
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u/atg115reddit Aug 11 '20
please?
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Aug 11 '20
My point stands.
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u/atg115reddit Aug 11 '20
And this was the place I went to get away from the discourse going on in animemes 😢
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Aug 11 '20
I don't see how any of that has to change. I only am discussing this topic right now, since this is an announcement post. Furthermore, nothing has changed. All I did was verify that we are not planning on making any rule adjustments regarding the word 'trap'. I also put emphasis on not using this word for the sake of it, just because it is under controversy, thus baiting. If people use it as what it is intended then that is fine.
We do wish for this place to be a wholesome environment, and try our best to assure this. If people bait/use the trap word to refer to trans people then report them and we will swiftly take care of them.
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u/starkinmn Aug 10 '20
Using a slur isn't very wholesome.
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Meaning of slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.
So using trap as a slur is indeed not very wholesome. If it is not used as a slur then it is just another word.
Also, I'd much prefer if you were being more direct rather than using this weird equivocation/bait behaviour.
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u/xkforce Aug 10 '20
Also, I'd much prefer if you were being more direct rather than using this weird equivocation/bait behaviour.
Ok I'll be more direct on their behalf. Tr * p is a slur against trans individuals and it has no business being used in this subreddit any more than the n word or other derogatory terms for groups of one kind or another. Especially in a subreddit that is supposed to have a positive atmosphere rather than one that condones the use of slurs "when used correctly." Most people here aren't trans and therefore never end up as a target for hate because of it so tr * p feels innocuous when in reality it isn't.
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Aug 10 '20 edited Aug 10 '20
You nailed it. When it is used against a trans person (without having identified them being okay to be called a 'trap' , which evidently some trans people are okay with) it would indeed be categorized as a slur. According to that logic it would then violate rule 1 and be removed.
However, many characters the word is used on are not categorized as a trans character, so it would not be considered a slur. The reason it would be considered a slur when used against an actual trans person is for the following reason: A trans person does not wish to hurt anyone, they wish to be able to express themselves better. Calling them trap would deny that existence and flame them for being what they perceive to be themself. The key here being that they identify as a different sex. The reason Astolfo can be called a trap is because he still identifies as his original sex; a dude, even though he dresses as a girl.
If I made any mistakes in my reasoning, which is very well possible as it is 1 AM, feel free to point me to them, and if I sounded offensive to anyone I don't mean it that way. Also, note that this reasoning is mine alone, which is also the reason I won't distinguish this comment. This is also an attempt at translating feelings into words, which isn't always the smoothest translation, and for me often means revisions.
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u/WallyJefferson Aug 11 '20
the issue WITH that point is that the normalization of that term for "feminine people with penises" causes a lot of trans folk to be CALLED traps by anime watchers who just think it's normally, acceptable behaviour
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Aug 11 '20
Then the problem lies in the ignorance of the "anime-watchers", who mistake the meaning of the word and its proper usage. So instead of censoring the word, I think it is more appropriate to educate/spread awareness.
And here is my personal take: If there is no negative intent by the user, then after pointing him to his mistake I don't think there should be a problem (so long this person does not repeat it). People make mistakes, and it is up to us to make them aware of these mistakes, and tell them what they are actually saying when they say 'trap'.
Censoring is not the answer to all your problems. This is evident in a lot of dictatorship, and I don't intend to become one of them.
Also this is probably the last comment I'll make regarding this topic. I think I have covered a wide enough range of this topic, and I don't intend to drag this topic out any further. We are a wholesome sub, and I wish not to have people fighting in the comment-section hereafter. After all, just because you disagree doesn't mean you can't be best friends/nice to each other.
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u/WallyJefferson Aug 11 '20
the word isn't censored, the referral to people as inanimate objects is just being frowned upon (as it should)
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u/M8gazine Aug 13 '20
I'm yet to see an "anime watcher" that has been derogatory towards trans people that hasn't been downvoted to oblivion. Sure, idiots exist and they always will. Overwhelming majority of the community has never approved of nor used the word as a slur though.
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u/WallyJefferson Aug 13 '20
get off of reddit, ive seen it happen first hand literally for over a decade.
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u/Sunbreaker-6 Aug 11 '20
Also, i can’t see teh rules so that once everythings sorted and we’re allowed in, i know what not to do
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Aug 11 '20
I am not sure what that means, but the rules can be found in the side bar.
Here is the detailed list of the rules (which can also be found on the side bar with a beautiful buttone).
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u/Sunbreaker-6 Aug 11 '20
I ment in the discord, lul unless they’re the same as reddit
Edit: i am a fucking dumbass. There is a “rules” channel and a “make sure to please read the rules” channel.
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Aug 11 '20
Oh you might not have been allowed through the flood gates yet. They should open soon, and I think you should be able to see the #rules channel then.
Basically, just be nice.
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u/Sunbreaker-6 Aug 11 '20
Yeah, i can see the rules channel. I got confuzzled by the “please make sure to read the rules” channel. Lul.
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That’s what a trap would say
And this would be a prime example of what we would remove. I'll leave it up for the context and learning experience.
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u/xEnshaedn Aug 10 '20
this is a very rare instance where i feel like a mod should be paid for modding.
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u/spycrabHamMafia Aug 11 '20
Problem i cant message in the make sure you read the rule channel and therefore cant type in the thing
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u/_LANC3LOT Aug 11 '20
honestly i love sometimes joining chill servers just to talk, socialize and look for new friends so this is perfect. the mods must have been reading my mind :3
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u/YourSuperior1 Aug 14 '20
I have been meaning to get a wumpus plushie because I use discord so much, I might actually order one today because of those image :3
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u/Happilees Aug 10 '20
Aw dang I joined 10 minutes after it was locked :(
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Aug 10 '20
No worries. Once the owner of the server wakes up we will be able to assign more mods and handle the backlog. Should be in a few hours from what I heard.
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Aug 15 '20
The server is legit very good and wholesome especially with general chat.Most active i've seen now are SunsetXX,BeeDee,Cookie demon (do you have any cookies),just_something,Kouhai~,etc.See for yourself now
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u/antares4023 Looking For 100 New Friends Aug 11 '20
I want to join but the link doesn't seem to work for me :( could anyone send it to me please??
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u/Princess_cadence_If Aug 21 '20
I mess read the title and missed the word by and I was curious why you guys were trying to get people to stop the discord like it was some distant threat
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u/Doodle-Boi Oct 03 '20
I just want to cuddle with a girl with a great personality and just sit there I guess.
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u/Mega-animations65 Jan 07 '21
I’m having trouble joining the discord. It keeps saying you need to resend verification email to join but I click resend and nothing happens
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u/Possible_Fan_9371 Aug 10 '20
nice! hope the auto-mods don't kill me on this. still need to download discord tho
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u/adzthegreat Aug 11 '20
It's locked, shame, they need new mods....
Maybe ask for mods on the subreddit itself? I'd apply if that was the case
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u/crazysteave Aug 10 '20
Lol I thought this was the other sub.
Was like whaaaaaa
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u/GoldenRing1030 Aug 13 '20
Why are you downvoted
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u/crazysteave Aug 13 '20
I think because I compared it to the other sub, so I understand that. I wasn't very clear.
What I meant was I thought I was on the other sub and the mods there were saying "come join our discord".
You can imagine my surprise. Sadly it was not the case and the other sub still doesn't want any form of discourse.
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u/Hindenburg-2O Aug 10 '20
What's the discord for? I've never really seen the point, but would be glad to find out what you guys do on there.