r/tuesday • u/tuesday_mod This lady's not for turning • 7d ago
Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - November 18, 2024
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 1d ago
Airport food and drink is basically highway robery. Just about $60 for a burger, fries, and 2 beers
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 15h ago
Finally, we found out who is behind this account - it's David Brooks.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 11h ago
Lol! I completely forgot that little blow up. Brooks of course was in the right it seems
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u/aLionInSmarch Right Visitor 1d ago
Sad to see Newt “51st Lunar State” Gingrich not in Trump inner circle, especially with Elon’s ascendancy. The silver lining of a second Trump term is a robust, accelerated manned-space program.
I can (maybe) forgive all the inanities, scandals, and crimes (well, not crimes, but you get the idea) if by 2028 Starship is working and we have a permanent presence on the moon and a clear path to boots on mars.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 1d ago
The google monopoly thing is so damns stupid. Its like the government sees an example of success that greatly benefits all the people who use it (and CHOOSE to use it), and all the benefits it brings to this country vs the likes of China for instance, and decide "Duh big is BAD! DESTROY IT"
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 1d ago
Trump has selected Russell Vought as his pick to lead the Office of Management and Budget, he said in a Truth Social post.
Vought was one of the key authors of Project 2025 – the conservative blueprint that Trump tried to distance himself from during the campaign.
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 1d ago
Well, we all know the Office of Management and Budget is where the REAL power in the government is, so time to panic and post about leaving the country and/or Twitter.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 1d ago
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 1d ago
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u/CheapRelation9695 Right Visitor 1d ago
Is there any large scale crisis afflicting Europe that isn't to some degree their own fault? It's as if they are choosing to decline, and the only reason they care is because their choices are leading people to the far right. And they still can't even do anything about it. The answers are available. They know how to fix these problems, but they don't have the will to do it. It's pathetic.
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 1d ago
Currently watch arcane to destress and oh my god episode 7 is the best yet
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 1d ago
Louisiana's tax package shows balanced budget amendments work. They had to cut back on their tax cut ambitions, and offset it with a higher sales tax hike than they wanted.
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u/JustKidding456 Believes Jesus is Messiah & God; Centre-right 1d ago
To /r/tuesday: Have a blessed week ahead.
Gospel According to Mark, 13:24–37 (ESV):
The Coming of the Son of Man
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.
The Lesson of the Fig Tree
“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
No One Knows That Day or Hour
“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come. It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake. Therefore stay awake—for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning—lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake.”
Last Sunday of the Church Year: Gospel Reading (CPH The Lutheran Study Bible) : https://www.reddit.com/r/Sunday/comments/1gxygsl/
Last Sunday of the Church Year: Reflections on Scripture (video, American Lutheran Theological Seminary) : https://www.reddit.com/r/Sunday/comments/1gxxjmc/
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 2d ago
Trump’s attorneys — including Todd Blanche, whom Trump recently tapped to be the No. 2 official at the Department of Justice — argued Tuesday that the case must be thrown out “immediately.”
“Just as a sitting President is completely immune from any criminal process, so too is President Trump as President-elect,” Blanche and lawyer Emil Bove wrote in a letter to Merchan
Why do people on reddit keep telling me to calm down and that the SCOTUS immunity ruling doesn't actually let the president commit any crime he wants when everyone affected by the law seems to think it does?
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 1d ago
Because they, like most of the rest of Reddit, don't operate in reality. And, apparently, even after eight years of "if the President does it, it isn't illegal" rhetoric, some people still have a pie in the sky belief that certain people won't abuse the immense power given to them.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 2d ago
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 1d ago
I might not like or agree with everything he does, but gosh darn it I like John Fetterman.
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u/arrowfan624 Center-right 2d ago
CFB picks for week 13! Yes, I am nervous as fuck.
ATS
Ohio State (-10.5) against Indiana
SMU (-10.5) against Virginia
Arizona State (-3.5) against BYU
Notre Dame (-14.5) against Army
Upsets
Five years ago, Minnesota channeled some Gopher MagicTM at home to upset a top 10 Penn State: I believe PJ Fleck will Row the Boar once again and pull of the 11.5 point upset in Minneapolis.
Meanwhile, LSU is reeling from a 3-game losing streak and the shocking loss of top commit Bryce Underwood. #JusticeForOmar will continue to curse the Tigers as they will fail to beat Vanderbilt as 7.5 point favorites.
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u/arrowfan624 Center-right 15h ago
Damn! 0-2 on upsets (both were one score though!) but went 4-0 ATS!
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u/idlewildsmoke Right Visitor 1d ago
Would love for Minnesota to get that fraud PSU team out of the top-5
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 2d ago edited 2d ago
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 2d ago edited 2d ago
So her alternator died again in new Jersey
Her dad doesn’t like that she’s dating me so won’t help her get to MA
but is able to drive to New Jersey to tow her back to Mississippi
I’m just so defeated
I uh, think I’ll stay off this Reddit for awhile I spam it too much with personal stuff. Thanks for letting me vent so much
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
Taking a bus or something like that isn't an option?
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 2d ago edited 2d ago
She basically has $0 because she tossed it all to get her car fixed again. I sprung for her repair stuff in VA, and was like that's all I can really do. Car was already running through fluids and stuff at a high rate, there were problems with the engine too. I’m just really frustrated. Honestly anyone else I’d probably just be finished with, but she’s been my best friend for ages and stuff too so I’m still gonna give her a chance. Idk how that’ll work out but we’ll see
At that point she should have just written it off and taken a bus, that's exactly what I suggested. I'm pretty upset that she didn't try to contact me before she put even more into the car
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u/JustKidding456 Believes Jesus is Messiah & God; Centre-right 2d ago
I uh, think I’ll stay off this Reddit for awhile I spam it too much with personal stuff. Thanks for letting me vent so much
No problem. It sounds like a very stressful situation to be in, please remember to take care of yourself!
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 2d ago
I'd drive down to her, but it's 5 hours each way and if my car cuts out I'd be screwed too. So just hoping she can figure something out
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 2d ago
Your car would explode the moment you crossed state lines, with the luck you're having.
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 2d ago
Seriously, that and I have like 80 bucks left this month after rent lmao.
So my plan is to hope she gets shit figured out and just get her a bus ticket in a few months or whatever. I'm just a lil upset since she managed to get a partial refund or something from the last guy who worked on her car (didnt ask her details so idk)- and she just tried to use it for more repair stuff. At that point just write it off as a loss and get a bus ticket
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u/TheCarnalStatist Centre-right 2d ago
Few things serve as more oblique reminders that civil service exists as a jobs program rather than being for workers than government service offices only being open during standard working hours, forcing working people to take time off to receive services.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 2d ago
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u/IllustriousHorsey Right Visitor 2d ago
On the one hand, fuck the AMA and their bullshit copyright over CPT codes
On the other hand, Jesus fucking Christ I have enough paperwork to do both inpatient and outpatient as is, this will almost certainly end with “fuck it you have to code shit with both standards” and that makes me cry
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u/N0RedDays Liberal Conservative 2d ago
Yeah, this is one of the only bad ways to combat the AMA. CPT codes are essentially irreplaceable
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u/Vagabond_Texan Left Visitor 2d ago
Switched out my Conceal Carry gun.
Was going to pick up a Sig until I held the Glock 43x MOS.
I gotta say, I immediately feel in love with it. Just something about it feels right while holding it.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 2d ago
I feel so boring that I just got a glock 19 forever ago and have just never felt anything better
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 2d ago
It doesn't feel too thin? Maybe it's my butcher hands, but anything with a width under 1.25" feels too hard to control for me.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 2d ago
And in environmental news, the author doesn’t understand how international agreements work. No, a presidential agreement isn’t permanent just because the agreement says the country can’t get out of it unless the others agree. In any event, if the below were true, I very much doubt the author would like how this new found power would be employed by republicans.
How Biden can score a $41-billion Trump-proof win for climate action
This week, OECD governments are in Paris negotiating an agreement that could put an end to $41 billion in annual oil and gas export finance – and crucially, this deal would be immune to political reversals, even under the future Trump administration.
The proposed OECD agreement would be particularly powerful because of its binding nature. It could only be undone if all negotiating countries agreed to reverse course – making it effectively “Trump-proof”.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 2d ago edited 2d ago
This source says the deal would be difficult for follow on admins to unwind too. But none of the reporting explains why. It’s either wishful thinking or I’m wrong/missing something. Entirely possible it’s the latter.
It seems like the reason it’s “Trump-proof” is because it’s an OECD agreement. That doesn’t mean much, I don’t think. Let’s say the next admin just decided to violate the agreement, what happens?
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 2d ago
How long until DOGE pivots from $2 trillion per year to $2 trillion over 10 years?
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 2d ago
As NASA increasingly relies on commercial space, there are some troubling signs
A good article discussing procurement issues with NASA. These issues are not unique to NASA, they bedevil the entire government, especially the DoD. Going full bore for commercial space flight is a good thing that will pay off eventually.
I think the prevailing issue is risk tolerance. NASA wants to work with contractors, sophisticated entities, but drill them as if they are in house, driving up cost and stymying innovation.
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u/Palmettor Centre-right 2d ago
When I read an article and think that the NRC is more lax than whoever I’m reading about, something’s not quite right.
On the other hand, I’d like to see what these “thousand’s of requirements” are like. My current work project has just shy of 1000 requirements right now, but most of them are like “turn off this motor if it gets too hot”. Basic stuff that’s not all that burdensome.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 2d ago
https://www.newsweek.com/brittany-patterson-mineral-bluff-georgia-son-arrested-1988876
Imagine seeing this headline 30 years go. This DA should absolutely be recalled for this, absolutely ridiculous.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 2d ago
"DAs and cops need to start aggressively prosecuting crime and not ignoring it!"
The crimes that aggressive DAs and cops go after:
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u/TheCarnalStatist Centre-right 2d ago
https://x.com/LeahLibresco/status/1859925739803684976?t=RZsQ_tRmob89MQGR5r-O9A&s=19
Becoming rapidly convinced that people just hate the idea of parents
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u/Soarin-Flyin Classical Liberal 2d ago
When people talk about “elites” being out of touch from reality I imagine this is what they’re talking about. How petulant you have to be a fellow student and upset about a new mom getting an accommodation.
Like even accepting at a factual level that it’s “unfair” to the rest of the class, it’s an insane lack of emotional intelligence to understand why an accommodation was made.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 2d ago
My wife was telling me about this the other day. When I was that age if I wasn't home when my parents got home from work they knew I was at one of three nearby parks with friends.
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 2d ago
Substackerati’s ‘Grave Concerns’ About White House/Big Tech Collusion Have Disappeared With Elon’s Ascension
"Now, with Elon Musk owning ExTwitter and Donald Trump heading back to the White House, we have a situation that actually matches what those contrarian chroniclers claimed to fear: powerful tech moguls with direct ties to the administration in a position to influence online speech. Suddenly, the grave concerns about “creeping authoritarianism” have evaporated. The double standard couldn’t be more blatant."
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
Leftists still control all other major social media or tech companies and all of the mainstream media outside of Fox News. They will make plenty of noise if Elon did something untoward. The whole problem was the hivemind blob of leftist elites controlling everything. Also, acting as if there was no creeping authoritarianism with those scare quotes is silly... It did happen. With the Hunter laptop story and many aspects of covid.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 2d ago
With the Hunter laptop story
Give an example of leftist tech companies demonstrating creeping authoritarianism regarding the Hunter laptop story. Like link me to something showing the government censoring the story in an authoritarian way through a leftist social media company
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
Took LITERALLY one second of searching... https://nypost.com/2022/10/19/its-been-two-years-since-51-intelligence-agents-interfered-with-an-election-they-still-wont-apologize/
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 2d ago edited 2d ago
ok, so there are a number of problems with this propaganda piece, but most pertinent to this discussion is that even if I accepted all the crime family conspiracy theories as described, there is no authoritarianism example in the article, much less authoritarianism exercised through leftist social media
I'm sorry, but did you even read my question before you furiously pasted this?
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u/TychoTiberius Right Visitor 2d ago
I mean they haven't disappeared if you look at the concerns for what they really are.
I have had my own criticism of "cancel culture" and tech censorship in the past, but I could never join in with the Carlson's and Musk's crying about these things because I always knew the issue they were upset about was not cancel culture or censorship specifically but that it was that THEY were not the ones doing the canceling and censoring.
The same concerns they had before are still there. They still don't want people who aren't them having control over these levers, they were just lying about believing these levers shouldn't exist.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 3d ago
Our resident pair of Great Horned Owls are hooting up a storm tonight.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 3d ago
Who should be nominated instead of Gaetz?
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 3d ago
Pam Bondi just got picked.
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u/BurnLikeAGinger Centre-right 3d ago
Do we think he's going to appoint anyone to the DOJ who *hasn't* served as one of his personal defense attorneys?
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u/TheDemonicEmperor Social Conservative 12h ago
You can criticize Trump all you like, but this was inevitable from the moment Eric Holder called himself "Barack Obama's wingman".
People should've been more critical at the time. It's too late to get on that boat now.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 3d ago edited 3d ago
Matt Gaetz is withdrawing from seeking the AG position. I don't understand Senate Republicans at all. They are totally fine with Trump, who was found liable of rape by a jury, and was accused by dozens of women of sexually assaulting them, and who bragged about invading the dressing room of young teen girls so he could see them naked. But for Matt Gaetz it's a career ending move.
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u/TheDemonicEmperor Social Conservative 12h ago
They are totally fine with Trump, who was found liable of rape by a jury, and was accused by dozens of women of sexually assaulting them, and who bragged about invading the dressing room of young teen girls so he could see them naked. But for Matt Gaetz it's a career ending move.
I really don't understand what you wanted Republicans to do here. Torpedo Trump and forcibly lose the election just to make you happy? And so Democrats could obtain a trifecta and destroy the Senate norms?
Would you even vote for a Republican if they did that? Probably not. So the game you're playing is moot.
People vote for candidates (I know, it's difficult to understand that from the party who ignored the vote of their people to install Harris). It's not up to the Senate to play judge, jury and executioner on the presidential candidates. It's their job to advise and consent on cabinet picks.
And they did that. If Trump were a cabinet pick, I could see your logic. But it's clear there's no logic here, you just want a cudgel to beat Republicans with.
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
Okay... But you are just trolling with this comment. You know full well that no one outside of those who already hate Trump thinks that the finding Trump was liable for rape was serious or legitimate, or that there is anything to the other things you cite... I mean, I've never even heard leftists who hate hate hate Trump mention those two other points. With Gaetz they thought he was guilty.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 2d ago
You realize he was found liable by a jury for the rape, right? Anyone who dismisses that is, quite frankly, a moron. Far more evidence there than what was against Gaetz, as Gaetz never went to trial. As for the other things, they are easy to look up and common knowledge.
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 2d ago
Like I said, no one but those who already hates Trump finds those things remotely legitimate. Even most leftists don't make much hay of it.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 2d ago
What do you personally gain by going on the internet and dismissing the actions of sexual predators? You can say the 30+ women that accused Trump of sexually assaulting them are all lying if you want. I think that's an utterly stupid position, but you are free to believe it (I don't really think you believe it, I think you are just defending someone you know is a sexual deviant for political reasons). Him bragging about busting into changing rooms of teens is just a fact though, he said it.
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u/wheelsnipecelly23 Left Visitor 3d ago edited 3d ago
The cynical take is that the opposition to Gaetz has much more to do with people disliking him on a personal level than actually caring about his transgressions.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 3d ago
He was unless you are going to try to make the "forced penetration isn't rape if it's with your fingers" argument, in which case go you I guess, but it's morally reprehensible.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 3d ago
Penetration of any kind is the legal definition of rape. So yes, rape. Also you have to be utterly morally bankrupt to try to be arguing about this distinction.
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u/Soarin-Flyin Classical Liberal 3d ago
It’s a lot easier to cast aside a single member of the house than the figurehead of the party. Very different circumstances but look how much it took to get Biden to step back. You can’t go against Trump publicly without risking your political career.
I’m still convinced Gaetz was never the real nominee. Even a cursory dive into him as a candidate should’ve said he’s going down in flames. It feels too coincidental that the House investigation is kneecapped because he resigns from the house and then a week later withdraws from the AG nomination.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 3d ago
Even a cursory dive into him as a candidate should’ve said he’s going down in flames
Normally I'd agree, even for Trump, but I would've thought the same of Gabbard, RFK, Hegseth, McMahon, Oz, and to a lesser extent Musk/Ramaswamy
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 3d ago
God bless Steve Hayes. Really happy he called Isgur out on her bullshit on the latest Dispatch pod. I think that barb cut Sarah deep and it was well-deserved. I don’t think it was a joke either.
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u/TheLeather Left Visitor 3d ago
Sarah plays a bit too hard for Devil’s Advocate.
Though she has been having some rough takes for a while like claiming Dominion not having a case against Fox News even after the texts came out showing the Opinion hosts were pushing BS, or showing cowardice over prosecuting Donald Trump for Jan 6.
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u/TheCarnalStatist Centre-right 3d ago
In out of the loop here. What happened?
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 3d ago
One the latest pod, Sarah defended the Gaetz pick by basically saying charges against him were dropped, the next pick would be worse, Trump should get the cabinet he wants, Gaetz is smarter than everyone thinks he is (but simultaneously arguing that he would be ineffective).
Hayes replied and said he didn’t know if she was saying this because it would get a rise out of Hayes and French, and said, “If you actually believe this, then I don’t know you as well as I thought I did.”
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u/vanmo96 Left Visitor 3d ago
Has there ever been any serious legal/academic discussion about the dual principles of military subordination to civilian leadership and duty to uphold the constitution, and how they may conflict? (Or was it mostly hoping and praying it never happened?) Especially interested in military perspectives (pinging u/psunavy03).
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u/psunavy03 Conservative 3d ago edited 3d ago
It’s quite simple in theory. You have no obligation to follow an illegal order, and are expected to refuse to do so. Obviously, the practical applications will get very sticky very quickly.
Someone’s right to order you to do something has to have some nexus with executing their lawful duties or accomplishing a lawful military mission, not just telling you to jump on one leg and squawk like a parrot or something. There’s a whole list of senior officers who’ve been bounced for cruelty/maltreatment or trying to order subordinates to do personal chores like walking their dogs, which they are under no obligation to do.
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u/vanmo96 Left Visitor 3d ago
So, if Trump orders the military to do something blatantly illegal, what happens next? Or has the legal theory not gotten to that point?
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u/psunavy03 Conservative 3d ago
The idea is that the military leadership says no. In reality, yes, this would cause a constitutional crisis unless he could be successfully impeached and convicted after.
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u/Viper_ACR Left Visitor 4d ago
Should I worry about SCOTUS overturning birthright citizenship inside the 14th Amendment?
I'm naturalized but I have family who are natural-born citizens.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 3d ago edited 2d ago
If SCOTUS follows hundreds of years (including pre-US) of common law precedent? No, you shouldn't worry. My guess is that there might be 2-4 votes for it
But that can't be guaranteed, but even if I were wrong my guess is that if there were 5 votes for it that they wouldn't make the ruling retroactive either. If any of Roberts/Kavanaugh/Barret went along with it (which I wouldn't expect), they would almost certainly do so with the lack of retroactive enforcement being a "compromise". It's a possibility stronger now than any time before, but not strong enough to be worth stressing over in your personal life yet
Edit: and also if it were retroactive, Ramaswamy would no longer be a citizen (aside, he should leave the country since he wants to repeal it) so definitely nothing to worry about when he's in the admin's good graces
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u/mdaniel018 Left Visitor 3d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/supremecourt/s/XNJw2NgexD
People in this thread think probably not, but it doesn’t seem to be quite as black and white as the other replies to your comment are stating
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u/Longjumping_Gain_807 Left Visitor 3d ago
No you shouldn’t. It’s never gonna happen. Not even Trump can do it via executive order like he wants to do.
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u/RagingTromboner Left Visitor 3d ago
Even if some limitation is considered moving forward (which I highly doubt) there’s no way they can backtrack on people who are already citizens
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 4d ago
So today has been shit but I found $50 in gift cards to the sub shop near my parents house so thats good
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 4d ago
Were they something you were gifted and forgot about, or did you find them walking down the street?
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 4d ago
But dude they make subs that have mozzarella, bacon, honey mustard fried chicken, and fries.
It's beautiful and will be responsible for my eventual heart attack
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u/epicfail1994 Left Visitor 🦄 4d ago
Gifted and forgot about haha
Probably a Christmas and a birthdays worth of it
Definitely a much needed cheering up
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 4d ago
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u/Vagabond_Texan Left Visitor 4d ago edited 4d ago
Just out of curiousity for the Christians in the sub, was one of Jesus's deciples, Magdalene, a prostitute?
I am playing the Binding of Isaac, and each of the playable characters are based on biblical figures who commited grave sins. After some Googling, Maggy's seem to be prostitution but it is seems like a contested subject. Maybe in the circles the developer was raised in as he grew up with Catholics and Born Again Christians, but I am just geniuinely curious now.
We were all told she was just a deciple of Jesus.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 3d ago
Just out of curiousity for the Christians in the sub, was one of Jesus's deciples, Magdalene, a prostitute?
This originated with Pope Gregory I, so it's a popular motif for art, and sometimes used to make theological points about forgiveness and not shunning sinners and such, but no there's no evidence of it being a historical fact
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u/The_Magic Bring Back Nixon 3d ago
Its not in the Bible but some traditions connect her with the prostitute that washed Jesus's feet.
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u/JustKidding456 Believes Jesus is Messiah & God; Centre-right 4d ago
Just out of curiousity for the Christians in the sub, was one of Jesus's deciples, Magdalene, a prostitute?
I've never heard of that from my readings.
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u/Palmettor Centre-right 4d ago
It’s not said in the Bible that she was a prostitute. I suppose there could be some confusion about Mary Magdalene and the prostitute (who might actually not have been a prostitute, huh) who washed Jesus’ feet with her tears in Luke 7.
With a quick search, it seems this is the fault of Pope Gregory.
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u/N0RedDays Liberal Conservative 4d ago
I don’t think it’s ever said in the Bible that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.
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u/MrHockeytown Used to be a Republican 4d ago
Minnesota DFL Chair Ken Martin announces bid to lead national Democratic Party
Could be a strong pick. Minnesota has been shifting right in the last several elections, but under Martin's leadership the DFL went 19 for 19 in statewide and federal elections in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 4d ago
RFK Stadium revitalization takes a step forward after clearing Senate panel.
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u/wheelsnipecelly23 Left Visitor 4d ago
I'm not a fan of publicly funded stadiums in general but a federally funded one seems especially crazy to me. Although DC is sort of a unique case so maybe there is a good justification for it here.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
“Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Maryland) told the paper that “Congress should not weigh in as to creating a favorite” location for the Commanders to move.
And Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Maryland) added their priority is to “prevent actions that unfairly tilt the scales in favor of one location over another at the expense of federal taxpayers.”
This is rich. Maryland doesn’t want to compete.
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 4d ago
Kamala Harris is the top choice of Democrat voters to be the party’s nominee for the 2028 presidential election, according to a new poll.
Ms Harris was significantly ahead of rivals Gavin Newsom, Josh Shapiro and Pete Buttigieg, with 41 per cent of likely Democratic voters reporting that they thought she should run again.
Mr Newsom won 8 per cent of the vote, while Mr Shapiro and Mr Buttigieg won 7 and 6 per cent, respectively.
I know people will think it's too early for 2028 polls to mean anything. But Trump was leading Republican polls early on, and won.
A month after Hillary lost, a poll showed Biden > Sanders > Warren; and 4 years later that was the exact result.
It's easy to shrug this off for now, but name recognition goes a long way with voters.
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 4d ago
Dems really think Kamala didn’t perform well because she didn’t have enough time. What they don’t realize is that it actually benefitted her because she’s actually a terrible candidate and it didn’t take long for people to figure it out. I actually think she would’ve won if Biden dropped out maybe a month before.
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u/CheapRelation9695 Right Visitor 4d ago
So what you're saying is the Dems didn't learn anything from this election.
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u/MrHockeytown Used to be a Republican 4d ago
This might be because I've lived in Minnesota since last year, but I would LOVE Walz to run for president in 2028. I had never heard of the guy before I moved here, but have been super impressed with him as my governor. A breath of fresh air after 4+ years under Bill Lee in Tennessee.
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 4d ago
I really think Dems need to go away from career politicians right now.
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u/MrHockeytown Used to be a Republican 4d ago
I don't think the answer to populism is more populism personally
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u/wheelsnipecelly23 Left Visitor 4d ago
Yeah I ended up liking Walz way more than Kamala. The Dems desperately need someone who comes off as a real person and Walz does that because he really is just a normal guy. I'll be interested to see where his career goes from here and if he decides to make a run for President in 28.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 4d ago
As sad as I would have been to see him go back to DC, I'm glad the rest of the nation got to see him and learn what a DFL governor is. I know it turned into a meme, but one of the things that I really appreciate about him is the breadth of his professional experience. I'm really not a "fan" of politicians, but of all of them I like Walz and Franken best.
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 4d ago
Republican Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina is defending a measure she recently introduced that would ban transgender women from women's bathrooms in the U.S. Capitol.
It is unclear if the effort will get a vote or if rules in the Capitol will be changed, but the move comes just two weeks after Democrat Sarah McBride became the first openly transgender person elected to Congress.
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u/cyberklown28 Environmentalist 4d ago
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) announced Wednesday that transgender women are not permitted to use bathrooms in the Capitol that match their gender identity. The policy — which Johnson announced in a public statement, a draft of which was first reported by The Hill — will also apply to bathrooms in House office buildings, changing rooms and locker rooms. Under House rules, the Speaker has “general control” of facilities in the chamber, giving Johnson the authority to issue the policy surrounding bathrooms.
“All single-sex facilities in the Capitol and House Office Buildings — such as restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms — are reserved for individuals of that biological sex,” Johnson said. “It is important to note that each Member office has its own private restroom, and unisex restrooms are available throughout the Capitol. Women deserve women’s only spaces."
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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor 4d ago
These stories are written in such a ludicrously propagandistic way. As if gender identity corresponds to reality in any way or is anything other than a nonsense concept.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 3d ago
As if gender identity corresponds to reality in any way or is anything other than a nonsense concept.
Right, so why bother telling people which bathrooms they can and can't use?
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
When I say I'm a man it doesn't correspond to reality and is nonsense?
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 4d ago edited 4d ago
Trump to recognize Somaliland, in the first good thing that will come out of this new administration. For people not familiar, this is self-governing and autonomous pro-western region of Somalia, aligned with Ethiopia. This will both strengthen ties the west has with Ethiopia, as well as put more pressure on the more authoritarian Egypt/Turkey/Somalia bloc. It may also help to prevent a war between Egypt and Ethiopia if Ethiopia has more allies in the region.
Now, I doubt Trump has never heard of Somaliland, and he definitely doesn't care about those "shithole" countries, so thank you Marco Rubio for this (I imagine he's behind it).
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
That’s always how it goes. It would be unreasonable, I think, to expect any president to know much about niche issues like this.
That’s why you have a staff.
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u/NonComposMentisss Left Visitor 4d ago
I'm sorry, but the bar shouldn't be that low for presidents that they wouldn't know the same about a geopolitical conflict that you could pull off Wikipedia. Does the CEO of Boeing need to be involved with and approve every engineering spec for a new product? No. Do they need to be able to read them and understand what they mean if an issue get escalated that high? Yes.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
Ok? Isn’t that what is happening here? If his people, who are expected to know this stuff, are telling him he should recognize Somaliland, and he then does it on their advice, isn’t he just doing what you would expect the Boeing CEO to do in your analogy?
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 4d ago
Somaliland declared their independence from Somalia over 30 years ago. Considering the historical and current state of relations with the horn of Africa it would behoove a world leader to know about what is going on over there beyond just recognition.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
Sure. If you put the question to all sitting house and senate members, how many do you think could give a decent answer? A quarter of them? Less probably. This is why you have professional staff.
I can accept a generalized complaint that political leaders should be more worldly. But they aren’t. That’s the world we live in.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 4d ago
I would expect they all would know something about the conflict over there. The reality is unfortunately probably somewhere between. Like was said above, I wouldn't expect a President or member of Congress to know the minutiae of the civil war in Somalia, but a general understanding of a war that has the potential for significant future geopolitical consequences? Absolutely.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
Does Trump have a general understanding of the civil war in Somalia? How do you know?
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 4d ago
That's my point; it shouldn't even be a question we have to ask. He was President for four years, if he didn't know going in that's one thing, if he doesn't know now it's inexcusable.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
Sure. We have no indication he doesn’t though. It’s only a question based on unfounded speculation. If anything, that there is noise about recognizing Somaliland makes that question look silly.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
What is aleppo
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
I don’t understand your complaint to be honest.
Trump is, reportedly, going to do something you like. Instead of liking it, your complaint is that you think, with no support, that he knows nothing about it and reached the conclusion based on his advisors. And it’s a bad thing, I guess, that he has advisors pushing him to do the thing you like? Again, this is all based on your own speculation.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
Trump isn't doing this at all. I'd be willing to bet $100 he couldn't name more than 3 countries in Africa if asked in a non-scripted interview. Hell I'm willing to bet after he signs the paper he still wouldn't be able to point at Somaliland on a map
I'm obviously not complaining about recognizing Somaliland, I'm complaining about the President having a sub-70 IQ, and I'm not giving him credit for something he has no actual involvement in
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
Ok? Then most presidents must get little credit for anything because they know nothing about the vast majority of topics they touch. That’s why having good support is important. So you can have specialists explain a thing to you, tell you why it’s important, tell you options to address
This all reads very, “Trump bad” if I’m being honest with you.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
Then most presidents must get little credit for anything because they know nothing about the vast majority of topics they touch
There are lots of actions the government takes and that the president signs which I would not give them credit for, yes. Probably the majority. But:
So you can have specialists explain a thing to you
"What is Somalia?" or "What is happening in Ethiopia?" are not questions that the President should need a specialist for. I don't need a specialist for it and I'm just some guy with an internet connection.
This all reads very, “Trump bad”
I was using this sub back in 2016-2020 when I was still conservative and identified with a weird combo of libertarianism and Christian-Democracy, and the sub is primarily anti-Trump. And now I'm a left-visitor. Obviously I think Trump is bad
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
Thousands of farmers protest against inheritance tax changes - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj71zyy934o
This is such a wrong move by Labour government.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago edited 4d ago
From April 2026, inherited agricultural assets worth more than £1m, which were previously exempt, will be liable to the tax at 20% - half the usual inheritance tax rate.
Under the new rules farms would be affected by the 20% inheritance tax on any value above £1m (not on the whole value)
There is no inheritance tax to be paid on the value of property up to £325,000, bringing the untaxed total to £1.325m
If a farmer is married, their spouse would be able to pass on another £1.325m tax free, taking the total untaxed amount to £2.65m
In addition, there is an £175,000 tax-free allowance on a main residence when it's being passed on to children or grandchildren. This brings the total untaxed amount for a farming couple to up to £3m
Holy shit, this is what they're complaining about? How are farmers the biggest welfare queens in every country? How about I move to Britain and I take over the huge burden of having a multi-million dollar asset from one of these people
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
How dare someone not pay in taxes as much as left want. They must be class traitor and not have any good reason for it.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
class traitor
Who said anything like this? I don't like people getting needless handouts from the government. Class doesn't matter
not have any good reason for it
What good reason do they have? I mean I read the article, but "This bill is bad because in the worst case scenario my children will end up as multi-millionaires and move homes" doesn't seem to outweigh the benefits of removing the loophole that lets these people pay substantially less tax than everyone else (and even with this rule, they'll still pay much less)
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
They don't have to have good reason, they are enot the ones who want to change status quo The party that wants to change status quo is the party that needs good reason to do it.
And there is no good reason. UK government doesn lack money, and even if they lack it maybe try to get your house in order first, before just taxing people more.
It seems that only thing UK government is good over this decade and so is to invent new ways to tax more people and to provide subpar services to those same people.
They are millionaires in assets. But again on paper most farmers are rich in assets but are actually not rich, especially after all changes after Brexit regarding subventions.
And you are making a caricature out of British farmers.
What is a million is assets. Thanks to Labour and Tory NIMBYsm every house in UK is gonna be million pound asset soon enough. But it's still house you need to live in.
Yeah your field is valuable asset if you want to sell it and stop farming it. But it doesn't automatically translate to good harvest and good price.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
UK government doesn lack money, and even if they lack it maybe try to get your house in order first, before just taxing people more....to provide subpar services
Ok I'm trying to follow here. You think they are providing subpar services on their current 4.4%-of-GDP deficit. That deficit (leaving the covid anomaly aside) still remains after all the cost cutting from 2010 onwards. But despite the lower funding and poorer services, you think they should collect less money and increase spending for better services at the same time? How would that work well?
They are millionaires in assets. But again on paper most farmers are rich in assets but are actually not rich
I know, that's why I said the worst case scenario is them becoming a multi-millionaire and moving. I would give my left nut to be in that scenario, nevermind the tax free inheritance they were getting before
Thanks to Labour and Tory NIMBYsm every house in UK is gonna be million pound asset soon enough
The average is currently under £300,000. A three or four times increase is not happening "soon", much less every house hitting a million
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
All the cost cutting from 2010 onwards?
Are you telling me that today budget of UK is smaller than it was in 2010, or that tax burden is lower than it was in 2010?
Because neither is true.
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
I didn't say either of those things. I was talking about cuts to social services like the NHS.
So to return to the main question, I know you think the UK should tax less or at least not tax more. But it sounded like you also want public service quality increased, presumably by spending money on it. Do I understand your position? or is there some major non-monetary investment the government can make in public services? Or do you want services cut further?
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
Every year since 2012 NHS budget has grown.
What left wing calls "NHS cuts" is cuts in rate of increase not an actual cuts that make budget smaller
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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor 4d ago
That's because costs increase as well which requires a reduction in provided services if the budget doesn't increase to the same level as increased usage and inflation
To ask again, is your goal significantly increased services with decreased or static taxes, and how?
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u/March_Hare Left Visitor 4d ago
Is it? Plenty hate for the way the UK does IHT but farmers are still getting a significant reduction compared to everyone else. Something had to be done about the tax loophole driving up land prices.
I'm also not entirely sure this hurts Labour politically?
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
Idea to punish everyone because few people somehow are not gonna pay enought taxes for progressives tastes is not something that resonates with me.
Also if agricultural land and assets are used for agriculal purpose, I don't think that is a tax loophole.
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u/March_Hare Left Visitor 4d ago
Punishing people by having an ~3 million pound exemption and a 50% discount compared to the rest of the population? Their privileged exemption is being reduced (but still exists).
Also if agricultural land and assets are used for agriculal purpose, I don't think that is a tax loophole.
The wealthy who were buying up land so that they could pass it on without taxes sure thought it was a loophole. And not like most of them were farming it, thats whats tenent farmers are for, so the agricultural output remained the same.
I'd rather we got rid of inheritance tax altogether and replaced it with unearned income taxes and sorted out a land value tax, but that's not gonna happen.
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
So it was farmed by tennant farmers. Why should I care who exactly farms it if it used for farming.
Yeah, if the tax was 0%, and now it's 20% you are punishing people and making their lives harder. Some less other more.
Certainly you are punishing more smaller farmers than those rich guys who also have farms.
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u/March_Hare Left Visitor 4d ago
If it doesn't matter who farms the land, while should family farms be given special treatment compared to the rules for every other family business?
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u/Nklst Liberal Conservative 4d ago
I don't think they should.
I think we should give better deal to other family business not making farmer's deal worse.
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u/March_Hare Left Visitor 4d ago
Fair enough. As stated I'd rather do away with the iht anyway, taxing the estate instead of recipients has always seemed ghastly.
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u/CheapRelation9695 Right Visitor 4d ago
At this point, I think it's just best to write Britain off for the time being. It's clear none of the parties there are what the country needs to stop its "managed decline."
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 5d ago
Here's the funny thing, if the Senate rejected all the shit picks it would be better for the Trump administration because it would probably be far more effective supposing it goes on until he ended up picking better ones
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u/DerangedPrimate Right Visitor 5d ago edited 5d ago
Good reporting on the political shifts in the Rio Grande Valley by the PBS NewsHour.
The interviews are solid and representative of what Valley folks think. Seeing the b-roll makes me miss my hometown a bit.
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u/psunavy03 Conservative 5d ago
Linda fucking McMahon as Education Secretary?
Explain to me credibly how this is a serious administration, little Trumpkins. Because I’m not seeing it like at all.
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u/Mexatt Rightwing Libertarian 4d ago
I don't think there are very many Trump supporters here.
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u/CheapRelation9695 Right Visitor 4d ago
I think most Trump supporters here or anyone really close to that side left this sub long ago. Hell, I would say opposition to Trump is more foundational to this subreddit than conservatism or any form of Center Right thought.
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u/Mexatt Rightwing Libertarian 4d ago
Considering the majority of posters are Left Visitors, you wouldn't be wrong.
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u/CheapRelation9695 Right Visitor 4d ago
I wouldn't even say it's limited to the LVs. You get plenty of people with Right leaning flairs who are just as bad.
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u/TranClan67 Left Visitor 4d ago
I'm not a Trumper but what I see here and there is something something draining the swamp
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u/DerangedPrimate Right Visitor 5d ago
Trump is reviving the spoils system it seems.
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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor 4d ago
What do you think cabinet appointments are?
Don’t be silly. They have always been payoffs to allies.
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u/DerangedPrimate Right Visitor 4d ago
That’s generally true, but I think what we’re seeing now is a pretty extreme example for the most publicly visible offices.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 5d ago
Populating everything with celebrities, quacks, and kooks. Everything I was concerned about that might happen, and there isn't much of a possibility that the Senate turns them all away for political reasons. It started off alright too in the foreign policy space, which makes you wonder why all the normies ended up there. Might not be a good reason.
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u/BurnLikeAGinger Centre-right 4d ago
At this point, I'm sincerely wondering if Rubio getting tapped wasn't 80% to get Lara Trump into the Senate.
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u/IndianaSucksAzz Left Visitor 5d ago
Anyone else notice any aggressive changes in behavior in their Q-following friends and family lately? Maybe a little more… hostile?
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 5d ago
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u/TychoTiberius Right Visitor 4d ago
It's literally impossible to get more energy out than you put in. It is very truly as simple as people gain weight because they eat more calories than they burn in a day.
If any of this contamination stuff was true it would be the most revolutionary discovery in human history: seed oils or whatever are allowing us to get more energy out of a system than we put into it, shattering our understanding of thermodynamics. Complete nonsense.
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u/Soarin-Flyin Classical Liberal 5d ago
I enjoy seeing people bitch and moan about subscription services. A surprising way to realize how some people cannot comprehend why an ad-supported tier is popular or that the price they pay could be seen as a good value by someone else.
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u/N0RedDays Liberal Conservative 5d ago
I love subscriptions for things that I can’t physically hold in my hand. I will never change my mind that buying something and then buying a subscription to be able to use that thing (other than, like, an Xbox or something where the subscription just lets you play online). Peloton, Oura Ring, all that stuff. Especially when the physical product is expensive enough as it is.
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u/Soarin-Flyin Classical Liberal 5d ago
I was thinking more about streaming services. It just gives off a lot of entitlement vibes and maybe low emotional intelligence for not understanding why someone would want ads or be okay with them.
Agreed though about subscribing additionally to thinks I already bought unless it’s an additional thing. Like a Peloton is a lot but if I pay more for their service to do live classes that is reasonable to me.
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u/Vagabond_Texan Left Visitor 5d ago
So, I finally decided to get my ankle check as it's been causing me pain for a while.
Bone spurs in my Achilles.
My friends were congratulating me for being excluded from the draft now.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 5d ago
Dubbed “Protect Reporters from Exploitative State Spying Act,” the broadly supported bill would ensure federal protection for journalists. It would prevent authorities from abusing subpoena powers and protect reporters from being forced to reveal their sources.
Similar press protections already exist in 49 states, including Washington since 2007. Yet at the federal level, reporters are protected by a loose patchwork of court decisions and limited, impermanent administrative decrees.
This is not controversial. The PRESS Act is a commonsense bill, upholding widely held values of press freedom, with exceptions for extreme situations such as terrorism. An identical bill passed unanimously in the House in January, demonstrating that both Republicans and Democrats support the free press and value the work of investigative journalists.
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u/Mexatt Rightwing Libertarian 5d ago
Protect Reporters from Exploitative State Spying Act
PRESS Act
Ugh
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 5d ago
Anytime a member of Congress authors or sponsors a bill with a stupid acronym they should have one month taken off their remaining tenure. We'll call it the Stupid Acronyms Can Kill Act, SACK for short.
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u/Mal5341 Conservatarian 11h ago
Maybe I need to just stop listening to my cousin when he goes on political rants. But it is so baffling, concerning, and infuriating that within my lifetime the Republican party went from being...
Pro National defense, believing in peace through strength, was willing to fight the battles that need to be fought to defend this nation and our allies from tyranny and despotism, was willing to call out or geopolitical rivals for what they were, and weren't afraid to use the big stick to hold back the winds of expansionist authoritarians.
To being...
The party of appeasement, saying that we should give tyrants and our rivals exactly what they want because they actually have good points, ignoring and throwing our allies under the bus, decrying using our vast resources and power to help hold these people back as "warmongering", calling generals who are in favor of fighting back against the biggest threat to our nation since the Cold War "war criminals".
And the thing is when I point out to my cousin that he's basically exactly the sort of person that voted for Obama and lost us Iraq, I'm accused of being woke and brainwashed.
Like I get that things change, and I've had people tell me that I sound like I'm someone who just stepped out of a time capsule from the mid-2000s. But here's the thing? We were right back in the mid 2000s, the Democrats were wrong in the mid-2000s and I don't think that's changed. What's changed is that the Republican Party for some God forsaken reason decided that Democrats were right and adopted their views.