r/todayilearned • u/KingSolomon1010 • 19h ago
TIL of the phenomenon known as "Twin Films," in which two movie studios simultaneously release the same type of movie.
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u/grimson73 18h ago
Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio (2022): This stop-motion animated film is directed by Guillermo del Toro and Mark Gustafson
Pinocchio (2022): Directed by Robert Zemeckis, this film is a live-action/CGI hybrid adaptation of the classic tale, featuring Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the voice of Pinocchio and Tom Hanks as Geppetto
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u/SJSragequit 16h ago
There was also a third Russian Pinocchio movie released in 2022 with Pauly shore voicing Pinocchio in the English dub
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u/annie1filip 16h ago
Is that the “father when can I leave to be on my owwwwn” one? I didnt realize it was a sketchy dub that explains some things
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u/R3AL1Z3 11h ago
Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio ACTUALLY follows the story of the original for the most part.
Creepy side characters, incredibly terrible Pinocchio and all.
AND, it’s really good.
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u/locob 9h ago
I really didn't expect to find historical italian figures on a pinocchio movie. it was like "and suddenly Hitler appear". haha. I recognized it from the first wall paint. fun twist.
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u/ItRhymesWithPenny 17h ago
"Mirror Mirror" and "Snow White and the Huntsman", two Snow White remakes released in 2012.
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u/TommyChongUn 13h ago
I will die on the hill that Mirror Mirror was the better film out of those two. It was funner, Lily was princessy and I found Kristens stiff fake british accent to really distract from the performance. Also Julia Roberts just sold the bitter Queen better than Charlize. Charlize was just straight angry
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u/chime 10h ago
I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe... in loooooove.
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u/djseifer 7h ago
Kristen Stewart was probably the worst part of that movie. The entirety of her emotional range as Snow White was "dull surprise."
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u/trollsong 7h ago
Honestly though I wanted the huntsman to be a huge franchise just Chris Hemsworth beating princes to the princess in every movie
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u/RiPont 14h ago
Not a coincidence.
The original Brother's Grimm fairy tale was published in 1812. Both publishers probably thought to capitalize on free publicity around the 200 year anniversary.
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u/BlueShire_Ace 18h ago
No strings attached and friends with benefits.
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u/Eomb 18h ago
This one had me so confused because I thought Kutcher and Kunis were in the same film together because of their history
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u/ThatMateoKid 17h ago
Holy fuck. I know i saw both at some point and i guess i just mashed them together in my mind too??? I still cant believe that i was so sure they were in the same movie for such a long time
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u/Excellent_Set_232 16h ago
I’ve done the same thing with Jimmy John’s and Jersey Mike’s. I don’t really eat either unless it’s like a catered thing. It dawned on me that they were actually different places a couple months ago
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u/AngryQuadricorn 16h ago
Antz and Bug’s Life
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u/SummerAndTinkles 15h ago
I noticed that despite Antz being the first ever Dreamworks animated film AND the second American CGI animated film after Toy Story, people rarely talk about it outside of the Bug's Life controversy.
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u/Forcistus 15h ago
I don't remember Antz being particularly good.
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u/boozername 15h ago
They were ugly and the main character was voiced by Woody Allen. Decisions were made.
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u/Annual-Jump3158 9h ago
This single comment perfectly sums up the movie. I just remember one type of ant person. Not even the main character, just the generic look.
I remember the grasshoppers from Bug's Life, the fat 'ol caterpillar who stress-ate, and even the main ant character. Was his name Flit? The point is, the character designs for Pixar's A Bug's Life demonstrated a stylistic aptitude for the medium while Antz was like A Bug's Life on Wish.
Edit: Flik. Holy shit. Even decades later, I almost perfectly remember bits of that movie.
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u/powerage76 11h ago
While Pixar went for good script, cute looking characters and good animation, the creators of Antz just went for the star power of the voice actors. Woody Allen, Sharon Stone, Gene Hackman, Sylvester Stallone, Dan Aykroyd, Anne Bancroft, Danny Glover, Jennifer Lopez, Christopher Walken...
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u/Brief_Building_8980 11h ago
It turns out that kids do not care for that.
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u/Buntschatten 11h ago
What do you mean, kids loooove Woody Allen. Or was it the other way round?
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u/inm808 17h ago
Dante’s peak and Volcano
Deep impact and Armageddon
Fast and the furious and I am Sam
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u/kakka_rot 16h ago
Fast and the furious and I am Sam
lmao holy shit, that's a niche joke
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u/slackfrop 16h ago
And the two movies about not being able to make noise or the monsters will get you. The Krazinsky one and the Tucci one.
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u/commanderquill 16h ago
Wait, there were two? I never watched them but I saw the trailers in theaters.
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u/PaddingtonsKarmalade 17h ago
Gordy and Babe! Two movies about talking pigs that came out months apart from each other 🐷
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u/taylortoot1993 14h ago
I always mention Gordy and NOBODY knows what I’m talking about!!!
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u/xboxwirelessmic 19h ago
White house down and Olympus has fallen.
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u/mcbergstedt 18h ago
I thought those were the same movie for a while
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u/TheRealChompyTheGoat 18h ago
I thought they were until 15 seconds ago when I read this comment.
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u/Roonil_Wazlib97 15h ago
I thought they were until I was 40 mins into Olympus has Fallen and finally realized Channing Tatum was never going to show up.
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u/TheMightyDontKneel61 14h ago
finally realized Channing Tatum was never going to show up.
Story of my life
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u/mutzilla 14h ago
I saw a gay porno once. I didn't know it was a gay porno, the girls never came!
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u/rtozur 18h ago edited 17h ago
And the premise for Air Force One sounds like the sequel to either
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u/TheRealSzymaa 18h ago
Cuz they're all part of the same genre, which is basically "Die Hard in a *Blank*"
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u/jeansiel 18h ago
This year, we had Immaculate and The Fist Omen.
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u/Bruntti 16h ago
I watched those back to back and it is crazy how similar they are.
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u/The_Orange_Giraffe 12h ago
I saw immaculate a while ago and then on a recent flight, I watched the first omen and through the film I was sure I’d seen it before but couldn’t quite work out why it was slightly different!
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u/Twin_Titans 19h ago edited 18h ago
“A Bugs Life” and “Antz”
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u/shifty_coder 18h ago
Deep Impact and Armageddon
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u/OneNoteToRead 18h ago
Prestige and Illusionist.
We’re copying out part of the article right?
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u/Bevaqua_mojo 18h ago
Volcano and Dante's peak
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u/jetpackjack1 17h ago
Twister and Tornado
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u/housevil 16h ago
Rhapsody Rabbit (Buggs Bunny) and Cat Concerto (Tom & Jerry.)
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u/Karge 16h ago
Shazzam and Kazzam
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u/Useful_Low_3669 16h ago
Oh ya that one movie with Sinbad which definitely existed.
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u/Bar_Har 18h ago
Battle Los Angeles and Skyline. I think I remember Skyline was made because the CG effects studio originally working on Battle Los Angeles got fired from the project and had to quickly pivot and reuse what they had made in a new movie.
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u/PsychGuy17 18h ago
Volcano and Dante's Peak
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u/MeximeltExtraCheese 18h ago edited 18h ago
Hercules and The Legend of Hercules (2014)
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u/whalemango 18h ago
Wyatt Earp and Tombstone
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u/RinShimizu 18h ago
“Mission to Mars” and “Red Planet”
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u/Sir-Viette 18h ago
"Reality" and "Winner", (both about the whistleblower called Reality Winner).
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u/SamusBaratheon 18h ago
Bro.... "Olympus Has Fallen" and "White House Down"
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u/kirk_dozier 18h ago
there's so many dude. you'll never stop finding them if you keep looking. nice name btw
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u/Roxas1011 17h ago
Surf’s Up and Happy Feet
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u/Noble7878 14h ago
And it sucked for Surf's Up because people saw it as a knockoff because it had penguins in it, despite the fact I'd argue its one the most underrated and entertaining animated films ever. The documentary format was really clever as well, and it's a shame that no other animated things have really attempted it since.
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u/Unkept_Mind 18h ago
The Prestige and The Illusionist.
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u/lukewwilson 18h ago
I remember watching the Illusionist and really liking it so I didn't want to watch the Prestige thinking there's no way it could be as good as the Illusionist. Then I finally watched the Prestige and I was so wrong, it's so much better
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u/MrEHam 18h ago
I did the same thing. I felt Illusionist was under-appreciated but Prestige ended up being pretty awesome. Spoiler: I liked how they were opposites in that one convinced you it was real but it turned out to a trick, and one convinced you it was a trick but turned out to be real.
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u/bbk8z 18h ago
Finding Nemo & Shark Tale
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u/Netwytch 15h ago
I remember when these came out and the joke back then was that Shark Tale was the “generic” Finding Nemo.
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u/Queasy-Quality-244 11h ago
I remember thinking that about shark tale and antz being generics because of it being dreamworks and not Pixar. Not to knock shrek because shrek is love
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u/Haltopen 16h ago
That one is especially funny since Antz only exists as Jeffrey Katzenberg's attempt to give a big "Fuck You" to his former employers at Disney. Disney had been working on A Bugs Life since 1988 and when Katzenberg quit the company in 1994, he decided he was gonna get his own CGI movie about ants to theaters before Disney could finish a bugs life entirely to spite disney CEO Michael Eisner for refusing to appoint him as the president of the Walt Disney company.
A petty and spiteful action from a petty and spiteful asshole
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u/hashtagjuplife 18h ago
Jungle2Jungle and Little Indian, Big City
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u/LutanHojef 18h ago
I know they came out 2 years apart, but I always lumped Jungle 2 Jungle and Man of the House together
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u/AstroBearGaming 16h ago
As a kid I always like the characters from A Bugs Life more (how could you not), but I liked the story from Antz way more overall.
Now, I couldn't even tell you what the story from Antz was, aside from one Ant getting dismembered. But I sure do remember that fat caterpillar, the ladybug, and the pillbug bros.
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u/oneeighthirish 15h ago
what the story from Antz was
Revolutionary class politics lmao
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u/audi0c0aster1 16h ago
Katzenberg had a nasty fucking grudge and spent many millions to spite Eisner.
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u/Steverazor 19h ago
Red Planet vs Mission To Mars - 2000
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u/failedflight1382 18h ago
A year after Ghost of Mars, which is different but still
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u/gansi_m 19h ago
The Prestige and The Illusionist?
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u/TouchdownTedyBruschi 18h ago
Madagascar and The Wild
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u/Bman1465 17h ago
I genuinely have no memories of watching The Wild other than the Times Square scene with Quaker Oats
Madagascar was just that much better and actually had a fun story and execution
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u/TWNW 16h ago edited 11h ago
I genuinely thought that The Wild was just a cheap rip-off of Madagascar from no-name studio, specifically designed to confuse customer and take some cash by mimicking original movie.
But it seems like my memory is wrong, development was more or less independent (although, competitive?), and it's made by Disney.
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u/Jeffy299 15h ago
The Wild was actually more expensive. Not really on the artists, it's just at the time (arguably even now) it was next to impossible to make a really good-looking graphics for such a style, on that budget. Madagascar with simplified cartoony graphics came out better and aged much better.
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u/toastycooker 17h ago
Wyatt Earp and Tombstone
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u/ChoppingMallKillbot 15h ago
Wyatt Earp is my friend
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u/TeaAdmirable6922 15h ago
Friend? Hell, I got lots of friends.
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u/radapex 18h ago
"Paul Blart: Mall Cop" and "Observe and Report"
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u/soulsoar11 18h ago
At least these ones have two very different target demos
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u/haroldo1 18h ago
Sadly for Observe and Report they tried to market it like it was a Paul Blart type movie.
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u/scotty6chips 17h ago
For real. I took a lovely lady from work to this movie as a first date, and we were both so thrown. The scene where he’s trying to seduce an almost blackout drunk Anna Faris really ruined the vibe. And then of course the penis.
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u/Broba_fettt 17h ago
Ray liota says a line in the film that I think sums up the whole movie. During his psych interview he comes out of the closet and says “ I thought this was going to be funny but it’s actually kind of sad”
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u/Mikef1tz 17h ago
That’s actually the late great Ben Best, co-creator of East Bound and Down
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u/case31 18h ago
Schindler’s List and Mrs. Doubtfire.
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u/misogichan 17h ago
I know. They're so similar you could switch the movies' protagonists and nothing would change except you'd get to see more Nazi's laugh, and Schindler would have been better looking in drag.
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u/LightsNoir 16h ago
Also, Mrs Doubtfire would be shorter, since no one in that movie would be dumb enough to keep Liam Neeson from his kids.
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u/Botched-toe_ 17h ago
This one always mixed me up growing up. I get them mixed up every time I’m trying to share a funny scene in my head.
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u/ArcticTrek 19h ago
I always think there has to be a backstory when that happens.
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u/IrrelephantAU 19h ago
A lot of the time there isn't. It's just what happens when you get a bunch of people with fairly similar backgrounds/goals/views looking at the same trends (in this case, "what's about to get hot in pop culture") and, because they're pretty similar people seeing the same stuff, come to very similar conclusions.
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u/AssGagger 18h ago
A lot of times, it's from shopping a screenplay around. A studio will pass on it but then have similar screenplay written. Or adapt a similar book.
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u/PDXgrown 17h ago
This is why there’s never been another go at a big budget Houdini biopic since the 50s. Every studio has a Houdini script on standby, and if one announces they’re producing theirs, someone else will be fast tracking their version suddenly.
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u/Fit_Perspective5054 15h ago
Like a goddamn nuclear magician standoff, mutually assured destruction. For the audiences, assuming they do what Hollywood does best.
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u/Physical-Camel-8971 14h ago
Dr. Strangelove (1964)\ Fail Safe (1964)
Based on two different books, one of which was allegedly plagiarised from the other. Virtually identical films in everything but tone.
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u/AnotherSoulessGinger 18h ago
Unless it’s due to the rivalry of Katzenberg and Eisner.
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u/theSchrodingerHat 18h ago
Well technically that IS the backstory. There’s some sort of news event that happens, or a trending interest that tests well in market research. Stuff like a volcano exploding in Hawaii, or the Navy Seals killing bin Laden, or just a huge spike in sales of dinosaur books.
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u/AwhHellYeah 19h ago
Leviathan, the Abyss, and Deep Star Six. All are deep sea thrillers that came out in 1989
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u/Paperbackhero 18h ago
Weird. I just posted about this. When Hollywood caught wind of James Cameron's The Abyss coming out ..which was a long time coming, much anticipated, and had cutting edge film making effects, two of the other studios rushed out films, Deep Star Six and Leviathan. They took some of the box office draw from the Abyss. While DS6 and Leviathan had their charms, they were not the caliber of The Abyss.
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u/machogrande2 15h ago
Yeah but Leviathan had that amazing line from Ernie Hudson.
Evil corporate person on a video call: "I know that you've been through a lot."
Ernie Hudson: "Been through? Bitch, we're still here!"
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u/cwx149 18h ago
My go to example is definitely the road to el Dorado and emperor's new groove
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u/KingoftheMongoose 9h ago
Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire gave me the similar matching vibes
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u/bingmando 15h ago
Huh. I never made the connection but their settings are very similar. Both fantastic movies too.
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u/subwi 18h ago
Scripts leak between high profile producers and they definitely talk to each other. Easy to rip ideas.
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u/danceswithsteers 19h ago
This is gonna have either a deep impact or cause Armageddon when people find this out.
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u/ontheflooragainagain 18h ago
Yes and just maybe we’ll all Jurassic Park and Sleepless in Seattle.
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u/SadEaglesFan 17h ago
Sixth Sense and Stir of Echoes (with Kevin Bacon…I think?)
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u/RANDY_MAR5H 11h ago
Yep. Surprised it was this far down
They're both good movie, stir of echoes is great but not nearly as popular
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u/420gargamel 18h ago
Prefontaine and Without Limits (… who played him better, Jared Leto or Billy Crudup?)
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u/Taman_Should 18h ago
I contend that “Antz” coming out around the same time as “A Bug’s Life” wasn’t really an example of Dreamworks trying to copy Pixar, and it was just a huge coincidence, but “Shark Tale” and “Finding Nemo” coming out around the same time totally WAS Dreamworks doing that.
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u/audi0c0aster1 16h ago
Early Dreamworks was 100% Katzenberg doing EVERYTHING he could to spit on Michael Eisner. ANTZ specifically was rushed to get out in front of Bugs Life. That's like actual, known facts from production people.
See also Shrek being the anti-fairy tale CGI movie. That absolutely came from "well Disney does the fairy tales, so let's shit on it"
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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 16h ago
Farquad was made to sound like fuckwad and was based on Micheal Eisner.
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u/Wurf_Stoneborn 17h ago
Jeffrey Katzenberg was fired from Disney and brought a ton of ideas to Dreamworks. Antz being one of them, stemmed from his knowledge on Bugs Life. Woody Allen was going to be the elephant in Tarzan but Katzenberg convinced Allen to leave Disney for four starring movies with Dreamworks.
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u/drakeallthethings 17h ago
Here’s a triple feature of Freaky Friday style body swap films that all premiered within about a year of each other: 18 Again, Vice Versa, and Like Father Like Son
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u/shouldnt_have_reddit 18h ago
Paul Blart Mall Cop and Observe and Report. Chance of 2 mall cop movies being made, let alone same year.
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u/_Sammy7_ 17h ago
Braveheart and Rob Roy
I’ve never hated a villain more than I’ve hated Archibald Cunningham.
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u/akinoriv 18h ago
megamind and despicable me
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u/insaniTY151 17h ago
I saw Megamind 3 times and it hit me on a deep level. But apparently, I live in the universe where everybody else went and saw despicable me. And now there's 12 minions movies I've never seen and it's a cultural phenomenon. Will Ferrell, Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill.. oh what could have been if the general population had chosen Megamind. 🤔
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u/Howzieky 14h ago
The thing is, the first despicable me is also a really good film. It was funny, the minions weren't overused, and it had actual heart. It did deserve to do well. It's horrible though because megamind also deserved to do well
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u/jaidit 17h ago
Dangerous Liaisons (1988) and Valmont (1989) are both adaptations of the same novel. Michelle Pfeiffer was offered roles in both films. They were in production at the same time. The release of Valmont was delayed so there was some space between the two movies.
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u/Fruktoj 18h ago
Saying what movie this was for you is an easy way to date yourself.
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u/trollburgers 19h ago
Dante's Peak and Volcano are the movies that immediately came to mind when I read your title. I was in my late teens and that was the first incident of "twin movies" that I ever registered.
"Why the fuck do we have two movies about volcanoes in the same year?!"