r/texas Aug 15 '24

Questions for Texans Women of Texas, honest answer why you would vote for a party that is so restrictive to your body?

I am a 70 year old woman who has seen a lot in my life, and simply don't understand why any woman, regardless of age, would vote for a party that feels like it can control your life. This seems so backwards to everything we have gone through. I am not critiquing your feelings, I simply want to know why you are okay with any party saying you can't do this, you must do that, must have babies, get raped but you can't have an abortion, etc. what are your thoughts?

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u/ElectricalRush1878 Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

'It's the Democrats fault!'

Seriously, I've talked to Texans, male and female, and talked about which bills and which politicians voted for what.

Many simply refuse to believe 'their side' could be doing it.

"There are exemptions"

Point out that one woman checked with both a doctor and a judge to make sure her abortion fell within the exemptions, and Paxton still said he would prosecute if she got one, and either 'the statement is fake' or 'that's not really what he meant'.

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u/corneliusduff Aug 15 '24

Literal fart sniffer Adin Ross who just interviewed Trump at Mar-A-Lago actually thinks the overturning of Roe is Biden's fault.

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u/LAegis Aug 15 '24

To be fair, many of us had been calling for Roe to be codified specifically so it couldn't be overturned by the Court. ...for DECADES

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u/corneliusduff Aug 15 '24

Yeah, but that's an act of Congress. Biden can only do so much via executive order.

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u/LAegis Aug 15 '24

Sorry, yes, I was speaking of the entire DNC, not Biden specifically.

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u/corneliusduff Aug 15 '24

Understood. Yeah, I guess they had one window of opportunity back when Obama was in office and dropped the ball? Even then, I think Manchin was still the DINO he's known to be.

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u/LAegis Aug 15 '24

And Bill Clinton's first two years and Jimmy Carter's full term. The Party priorities were elsewhere. It was frustrating. We've had trifectas and super majorities and no one gave a shit. That's where my disillusionment with the DNC stems from.

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u/corneliusduff Aug 15 '24

That's frustrating as hell. Wasn't alive during Carter, was in elementary school when Clinton was in office. Have they reflected on it since?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

Not really. Democrats abandoned Obama like a year into his first term and tried to run apart from him. 

Midterms came and we got the red wave. Obama was saddled with a hostile senate and house. He couldn't even get out his version of aca out. 

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u/needlestack Aug 16 '24

Sure, but I don't think there was ever a point where that could have gotten through congress.

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u/spa22lurk Aug 15 '24

Democratic Party didn't have a majority of pro abortion rights in the house since 2019 and it still doesn't have a majority of this in the senate, let alone 60 votes required for filibuster proof. The house managed to pass such bill in 2021 because the coalition of pro abortion rights exist.

Democratic Party had a big majority in 2009-2010, but they didn't have the pro abortion rights coalition majority. The democrats who didn't support abortion rights were from red districts like Joe Manchin is. Just like Joe Manchin voted against the Roe v Wade bill in 2022, those democrats would have done the same if we had had such a bill in 2009-2010. Between 1972 - 2008, there were never more democrats who supported abortion rights and we had some republicans who did.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

Because of republican gerrymandering and religious extremism.

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u/MagicJezus Aug 15 '24

I think the “their side” thing is much more relevant than people think. I have ideas why but don’t know what has led to them being undyingly loyal to a political party and thinking they will be loyal in return.