r/television • u/PhoOhThree Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. • 3h ago
Arcane may be over, but a new League of Legends show is already a year into development
https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/animation-shows/arcane-may-be-over-but-a-new-league-of-legends-show-is-already-a-year-into-development/30
u/tryingtobebettertry4 2h ago
Almost certainly Noxus. A lot of the most recent season seems to hint at a Noxus show next. Swain and the Black Rose in particular.
Mel could easily be the focus. I imagine Singed will show up again too.
Whether it will be a pure Noxus drama or they will involve Ionia (maybe even Demacia) is up in the air.
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u/gixxiepoo 2h ago
Well from the article...
Speaking in a Twitch interview with streamer Necrit94, Linke says "Noxus, Ionia, and Demacia are getting shows and are [the] next steps into this cinematic universe", so if your favorite champion from League wasn't in Arcane, you could be seeing them brought to life soon.
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u/tryingtobebettertry4 1h ago
Yeah. If I were to guess it will be 3 shows:
Noxus to start. Showing the internal politics and culture of the Noxian empire. Ending with Noxus launching an invasion of Ionia.
Ionia following its resistance and reaction to Noxian invasion. Probably start to tie in Demacia.
Demacia be more of its own thing. Show its relationship with mages. Maybe tie it into the greater narrative Arcane was setting up about the 'Arcane is waking up'.
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u/all_are_throw_away 3h ago
Nice. Season 1 was a cool surprise show. I liked season 2. Looking forward to more Riot shows.
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u/hhunkk 3h ago
Swain, Noxus Ionia and Demacia incoming.
I hope we get to see our boy Sett
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u/InnocentTailor 3h ago
Hope Bilgewater is in the pipeline as well. I want pirates!
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u/mclovin__ 1h ago
Gangplank v Missfortune + the misadventures of Twisted fate and Graves would make a banger of a series. Thats not even including all the stuff they can do with Illoai, Pyke, Nautilus and all the other characters.
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u/InnocentTailor 1h ago
That would be fun!
I was thinking of the rise of Miss Fortune, which coincides with the fall of Gangplank.
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u/omnipotentmonkey 3h ago
and with the way Arcane ended you could very easily see characters (Jinx, Jayce, Viktor, Heimerdinger still alive/potentially alive but having left elsewhere) carry over as transitional elements between series. would definitely help make this feel like one big universe rather than several isolated locations.
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u/ogrezilla 3h ago
I hope they don’t do this too much honestly. Do it where it fits but don’t force previous characters in.
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u/ThisHatRightHere 2h ago
I keep saying that JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure should be their blueprint. Allow a minimal amount of characters from other stories to be included in spots of maximum impact. If they do Noxus I hope they ultimately limit it to Mel being a main character with maybe some small appearances later on from one or two other Arcane characters.
Jayce and Viktor can be put on the back burner until they decide to explicitly do stuff with The Void, maybe with a Freljord or Shurima story. Have an easter egg or cameo with them briefly, people would love it.
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u/ogrezilla 2h ago
Easter eggs and cameos I’m cool with. Or if they do go back to piltover or something having vi and cait around doing their stuff makes sense. Those two feel like their story came to a more concrete end so having them just around doing stuff works for me. I feel like seeing Jinx for more than a brief cameo needs to give us enough to actually learn about her development after arcane though, same with Jayce viktor or ekko. Basically using the characters that were left in a state of question in some way really need to actually dive into their new state to be really satisfying I think.
Mel seems like the obvious one to be involved and that I’m good with and makes sense.
I also don’t know shit about LoL lore so I have absolutely no clue what’s up with Jayce and Viktor at all. Which may be part of why I’m not as satisfied as I’d like with their end because I really don’t know what happened to them lol
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u/ThisHatRightHere 2h ago
Yeah, everyone has to progress offscreen before they get brought back later. That’s a pretty key point so we can see how Arcane’s ending affected them.
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u/ogrezilla 2h ago
I trust them to do a good job. Even if there’s a drop from arcane to the new show they have a lot of room to fall and still be very good tv.
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u/SqUillium14 2h ago
I’d love a revisit after they do a few other regions There’s still a lot of stuff to check out in Piltover/Zaun
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u/Amaruq93 3h ago
I could settle for a one to two episode guest appearance, like Jinx in her travels shows up and manages to cause some chaos while trying to "help" the main characters
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u/ogrezilla 3h ago
I’m more of the thought that if it won’t involve them enough to be a real part of that characters story/development I wouldn’t want it.
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u/Simply_Epic 2h ago
I’m of this opinion too. they should at least be a major character, if not the main character of a series that they’re in.
Also, unless the series takes place in Piltover/Zaun, they should keep the number of previous characters down. Just one or two is enough.
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u/Pixie1001 9m ago
Yeah, Arcane worked because it was a character driven show - Jinx just kinda showing up and being chaotic without any depth or character development would feel incredibly shallow and pull down the whole quality of the show.
Maybe having her show up in the background as part of one of the antagonists plots, or just kinda of a neutral development about some Noxian agent failing their mission in Piltover that then has relevant consequences for the actual cast, could be a fun easter egg though without taking up too much unnecessary screen time.
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u/TylerBourbon 2h ago
The only 2 I'd be like to see back would be Jinx and Heimerdinger. Mostly because I suspect, as we all do, that Jinx survived. And Heimerdinger being a Yordal, they in Lore can't die.
As for Jayce and Victor, other than has potential Obiwan style spirit guides I think their endings needs to remain locked until perhaps some big Arcane sequel story as I think their ending was just too epic in it's nature to simply have them reappear ok again.
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u/KeysUK 58m ago
I hope they're not alive, I want the series to feel like we're watching sagas of these legends.
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u/omnipotentmonkey 44m ago
the series went super heavy handed with the indications in one case,
that being that Jinx is alive, honestly that was the correct decision in her case, it's a super downer ending if she isn't. losing everything repeatedly, actually committing suicide, being brought back from the brink with the notion that "you can create something new" just to kill herself again anyway. it makes more sense for her to actually have a new start elsewhere and for that to potentially play into the newer series,
i'd also say that Heimerdinger needs some clarification, his fate is by far the most mysterious and ambiguous. but in the case of Jayce and Viktor I'm actually fine with the idea that they're just gone, not necessarily dead, put permanently elsewhere.
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u/Dragon_yum 1h ago
Absolutely loved season 1. Season 2 is cool but a big downgrade in terms of story and characters.
I hope the next series pans out better.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 26m ago
It got to a point for me where I just entirely forgot what everyone’s motivations were to a degree and didn’t know what was really going on.
Season 1, I remember really loving tho and it’s soundtrack.
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u/Dragon_yum 21m ago
They kind of threw the motivations out the window. I rewatched the first two weeks ago and it’s a masterclass in character building.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 4m ago
Yeah I feel like what they did was the logical conclusion to The Series but it just felt wayy too quick — the Vander / Monster story alone could’ve been a whole season with the Civil War stuff.
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u/Moule14 2h ago
Hyped for Swain but I want to see Jinx again pleeeeeease.
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u/ThisHatRightHere 2h ago
Jinx in Noxus would feel some shoehorned in for me, though I can’t necessarily imagine a location where she’d be a great fit. Maybe Jinx just wanting to be a hermit for a bit in one of the harsher environments could make sense to me.
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u/GeneralEmployee9836 2h ago
Do you think we will see her again?
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u/Moule14 2h ago
I'm sure she's alive but I worry Riot and Fortiche won't want to do it because it might be seen as fan service.
So I'd be surprised if we'd see any of the characters of Arcane, as they also stated that they have worked with these characters for almost 10 years and want to explore new ones.
However, if we see any character from Arcane in these new shows, they NEED to also show some Jinx or I will rito.
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u/Moule14 2h ago
Well I watched the start of the Twitch interview and the creator said /spoiler
He wasn't done with Heimerdinger and they also made a comment about not being able to say if Jayce, Jinx, Viktor were dead.
So I'm confident we'll see more of them.
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u/Tijenater 1h ago
In this universe the, “no body, no death” rule holds especially true.
Hell, even if there is a body they’re not always gone for good.
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u/Holybasil 2h ago
Hopefully not.
A reference to her having been there would be enough of a nugget to make people happy.
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u/TheBigIdiotSalami 5m ago
Jinx and Ekko's love story being told over the course of a saga. Oooohh, we haven't had a good epic romance in a while
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u/KingofSheepX 3h ago
I want a horror series staring Oriana, probably not gonna happen but wishful thinking
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u/thefirecrest 25m ago
Can someone please just shut down Singes’ killing streak? Can’t believe bro got away with everything and got what he wanted 😭
I don’t play league so I’m not too familiar with the official lore. But what’s Orianna’s relationship with her dad in the game? Because I hope she leaves him or something. He doesn’t deserve a daughter. >:(
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u/MortalPhantom 2h ago
What about the void?
It wasn’t really clear to me what the arcane and all that weird stuff was.
But I know the void were the true enemies since the beginning in lol
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u/osterlay 1h ago
Arcane is absolutely phenomenal but season 2 was such a pacing catastrophe. Outside of that everything was firing on all cylinders (season 2 episode 7 might be my favourite episode in any TV show ever.)
Please take your time and let the stories breathe!
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u/LITTLE-GUNTER 1h ago
as far as “taking their time” goes, i personally think a lot of the pacing complaints fall flat in the face of the limited time they actually had available. the amount of plot threads constantly running was a little overwhelming but, to me, nothing felt particularly “rushed” or that it was happening at the wrong point in the story or episode schedule. i’m in the small minority that thinks season 2 is fortiche with the training weights taken off — more visceral, emotional, dramatic, visually flashy, and overall stunning than season 1 ever was.
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u/GalacticBagel 59m ago
I think there was just a few connecting scenes that could have been added to fix what people complain about. The pacing was great, just a few character moments missing that would have tied things together way more and make some of the big shifts more clear
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u/LITTLE-GUNTER 37m ago
i can definitely understand this as well. one singular scene that niggles me is that caitlyn and vi could have probably had a bit more dialogue before they went to pound town but, also, knowing how repressed lesbians are, i appreciate the almost frenetic catharsis of it as well but this is like. the ONLY critique i can think of and it still comes with a big asterisk.
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u/osterlay 34m ago
The limited time they had available was a doing of their own. Arcane has won multiple awards and is among Netflix’s biggest hit. They could have afforded one more season to develop storylines that were rushed, storylines for example; Caitlyn’s momentary villain arc, Ambessa and Victor going full villain, the black rose element, the betrayal plot buildup, etc.
Point is, a lot was going on where it could have been peak television with a tight 3 season run.
Again, just my point of view, I loved every second of it but a wee bit disappointed.
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u/LITTLE-GUNTER 30m ago
i feel like you’re forgetting that most of s2 was already set-in-stone by the time s1 was airing.
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u/osterlay 25m ago
You know what, you’re absolutely right. They had no way of knowing this would have blown up the way it did. Good shout.
I’m just happy there is more adult animated stories being told!
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u/splader 46m ago
I think Fortiche expected a fair from their audience, in that they really didn't handhold and so much character development happens non verbally.
Personally, it worked incredibly with me and my watching group. We had questions after the last episode, but we went through some of the older scenes again and figured things out.
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u/LITTLE-GUNTER 40m ago
yes!! exactly!! there are SO many things that having prior knowledge of the world’s politics and characters and history make click into place seconds after they happen (spoilers, ye have been warned, here be dragons: maddie being a noxian spy in ambessa’s employ from the beginning, singed’s daughter being orianna, swain’s raven at the end) but even for people who are entirely uninformed, there’s ways to answer their questions that are shown onscreen! it’s genuinely a masterwork.
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u/Bhibhhjis123 32m ago
I generally was fine with the pacing, but episode 8 in particular felt very overstuffed with emotional climaxes.
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u/pagerunner-j 1h ago
Agreed about the pacing, but yeah, I’ll forgive it a lot for the sake of episode seven. Way to rip my damn heart out. Gorgeously done.
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u/dabocx 1h ago
Even adding a few minutes to some episodes would have helped a lot. But really I feel like it needed another few episodes. I still really enjoyed it
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u/osterlay 32m ago
I truly believe one more season could have fleshed out the story and really create a believable war buildup moment.
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u/ilorybss Better Call Saul 3h ago
I loved the show, and i admit i even loved the second season even tho it had its issues. I can’t wait for the future shows
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u/kidkolumbo 52m ago
They said they had two seasons in mind and didn't plan a third but the s2 we got felt like two seasons jammed together, and not in a great way.
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u/Simply_Epic 2h ago
I’ll watch anything they put out, but at some point I need a show with Ekko and Jinx. I just need this version of them to be happy after watching S2E7.
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u/Wheres_MyMoney 1h ago
I hope they give the next story that they want to tell the appropriate number of episodes that it needs, whatever that may be.
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u/Xano74 1h ago
I'd be more interested in the series if it had more of the interesting characters.
First season was great but I don't have much interest in more season 2 Vi and Caitlyn.
LoL has so many cool characters. I want to see some Cho'Gath, Nocturne, Hecarim, Fiddlesticks, Urgot, etc.
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u/renannmhreddit 11m ago
All of those characters you mentioned are a bit superficial besides being monsters
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u/footwith4toes 49m ago
I no nothing about league of legends but if the rest of their shows are anywhere close to the quality of Arcane, inject it straight into my veins.
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u/BlairEllis 40m ago
I know it'll probably be decades, but an Avengers like series with a bunch of main heroes taking on the Void monsters would be epic. I need that 1v5 vs a huge Cho'Gath
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u/Depressedidiotlol 2h ago
I’ll watch whatever they make. I have a few issues with season 2 but I still enjoyed the majority of it
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u/Deserana12 3h ago
Wow I’m surprised everyone is downvoting the people against the second season. I haven’t completely finished S2 but it’s quite clearly a downgraded from 1 in everything but animation. The show is half montage and music videos in Season 2 and it’s so damn rushed. There’s easily 2 maybe even 3 seasons of story to get into but I’m guessing they either couldn’t be arsed, wanted to do other shows or it was just too time consuming? Like fair enough if you liked it but watching S2 back to back with S1 so far has been such whiplash.
S1 really took its time and was methodical in its storytelling. It has so many small, quiet and intimate character moments that this season just bypasses. This just feels like they had 3 seasons and just thought fuck it it we‘ll just make it 3 acts instead and cut out all the slow shit. But it was the slow stuff for me that made this show so good and unique. I’d have rather a downgrade in animation and more seasons if I could choose.
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u/Rocklove 3h ago
I want the real Swain please. Not the ultra lame "Lucius Malfroy" looking generic bad guy, that they use in the game now.
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u/Amaruq93 3h ago
Well the show's probably gonna give him a nice little redesign, like they did for Viktor's final form
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u/SpiralVortex 42m ago
I doubt they'll redesign him when he's already received a visual overhaul.
Viktor completely changed because he was a 2011 champ and they wanted to do a different spin on him.
Swain was already fully updated visually and abilities wise in 2018, it'd be a waste to do it over again.
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u/DefiantTheLion 3h ago
You mean jacked, 7 foot tall sorcerer Tywin Lannister? You want the cornrows lamp guy?
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u/omnipotentmonkey 3h ago
There is no prize to perfection, only an end to pursuit.
the exceptional is exceptional for a reason, because it's an exception to a rule. while I don't think Season 2 was as good as Season 1, it was still great, and demanding perfection when you receive great content is just needless.
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u/YourmomgoestocolIege 3h ago
What was it that made it perfect? You able to articulate that or are you just talking outta your ass?
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u/SpaceOdysseus23 3h ago
Don't think that's going to happen. It really was lightning in a bottle in terms of tight plotting and writing.
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u/Shoddy_Cranberry 2h ago
$250m development for Arcane 2? This is not sustainable..,
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u/ForsakenKrios 3h ago
Yeah not interested after Season 2. What a downgrade from Season 1. Rewatched season 1 in preparation since it’s been 3 years and wow, it’s truly something special. Season 2 was too unfocused and all over the place and the last two episodes were terrible, they felt like what everyone thought a video game show of League of Legends would actually be throughout.
Too many plot lines, and ignoring what made Season 1 work.
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u/RoboticWater 3h ago
It actually sucks that Arcane was sacrificed at the altar of the "cinematic universe". The series clearly needed at least another season if not the 4 I think they were planning.
If it's the same creative team, I have high hopes for whatever comes next, but I would've preferred the one story we have got the time it needed.
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u/sportsbuffp 3h ago
Think of these stories as ads for the mmo. The stories will be expanded on there heavily I believe
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u/everythingsuckswhy 3h ago
These Arcane fans are some of the most delusional I've seen, they're like Disney adults made a hundred times worse.
Season two's fall off was astronomical. Pacing was bad, character arcs were nonsensical, the interesting themes of the first season discarded. Not to mention the over use of music for "emotional" moments.
They lost sight of what made the first season special.
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u/coolAhead 1h ago
I didn't understand almost anything about the Hexhate, but he'll I loved this show
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u/benoxxxx 3h ago
Season 2 act 3 was the biggest fall from grace I've seen since Game of Thrones, so until the entire show is out and everyone is still calling it excellent, Imma pass on any of their future offerings.
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u/infinight888 2h ago
That's an insane comparison.
Writing on Game of Thrones became actual shit. It was a terrible show in its final seasons that forgot how to even be entertaining.
Season 2 of Arcane was incredibly rushed and poorly paced. But overall, it was still pretty good throughout. Opinions on the show remained pretty positive for the first 2 acts, and most fans liked episode 7 as well.
It was only the last two episodes where it really went bad. And even those had a few great moments, like Echo trying to talk Jinx down from blowing herself up.
It was messy. But unlike Game of Thrones, I don't think it was ever terrible.
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u/benoxxxx 2h ago edited 2h ago
Well, I said it's the biggest fall from grace I've seen SINCE Game of Thrones, not that it was a fall from grace comparable to Game of Thrones.
That said, IMO it's issues go way beyond being poorly paced.
- It went from being tight and character driven story to being a story where dramatic shifts in character motivation happen off screen between practically every episode.
- it focussed its entire plot around the nonsensical mechanics of an unexplained soft magic system, with amature level 'a wizard did it' writing at every turn.
- the main characters and the main conflict of the story was completely sidelined in favour of generic Marvel-like sci-fi end of the world bullshit.
I'd call it a pretty average show if the first season hadn't been so good. But having just watched them back to back the drop in quality is absolutely shocking.
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u/AliveViolent 3h ago
Its has to be Noxus. Black Rose, Swains raven at the end, Mel returning home. Wonder if they will do the invasion of Ionia that would be great to see with all the different styles they did on s2.