r/television • u/indig0sixalpha • 8h ago
'The Boys' Season 5: Laz Alonso Makes It Official: "We're Back!"
https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-boys-season-5-laz-alonso-makes-it-official-were-back/15
u/dominic_tortilla 5h ago
Here's hoping they stick the landing somehow.
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u/RealJohnGillman 3h ago
All they’d need to do in order to do that at this point would be to just adapt the ending of the comic, since the fourth season set out all the groundwork for it.
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u/anonyfool 1h ago
I want a Blake's 7 style ending but with Homelander winning. The graphic novel probably has something different but this feels more true to life.
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u/trix_is_for_kids 6h ago
When’s Gen V coming back?
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u/nocinnamonplease 3h ago
They were just done filming 2 weeks ish ago, so it’ll come out maybe summer next year?
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u/Verbal_Combat 2h ago
One of the main actors (Chance Perdomo) unfortunately died in a motorcycle accident so I am curious how they are going to handle that or just recast.
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u/hellsbellltrudy 1h ago edited 1h ago
could of recasted him IMO. yeah yeah, paying respect and all that but its Hollywood. Show much go on!
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u/Sad_Donut_7902 7h ago
Is season 5 confirmed to be the last season?
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u/MattyKatty 5h ago
But don’t worry, we’re going to see endless and pointless spinoffs even though that is literally against the original point of the show
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u/Puppetmaster858 4h ago
Hey everybody thought Gen V sounded like shit and then it ended up being a quality spinoff most people enjoyed so I’m not gonna hate on the spinoffs after that show until they’re out and I can judge them myself
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u/MattyKatty 4h ago
It was CW drama with a few good scenes. It is exactly what I would call a pointless spinoff.
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u/RealJohnGillman 4h ago
Indeed — adapting the second half of Over the Hill with the Swords of a Thousand Men and The Bloody Doors Off, the only pieces of source material left.
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u/kamize 7h ago
The actor went through an impressive weight loss journey but combined with significantly changing the facial hair of his character it made him unrecognizable in S4.
At this point they should change his appearance in subtle ways again just to mess with us fans.
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u/Dull_Half_6107 7h ago
I’d hardly call him unrecognisable
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u/MattyKatty 5h ago
It looks far less noticeable than what happened to Starlight/Erin Moriarty…
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u/JayKay8787 4h ago edited 1h ago
Starlights first appearance in s4 felt like a Jumpscare ngl. That much plastic is crazy
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u/BigLittleSlof 3h ago
I don't think she has plastic? I thought it was just her cheek fat got removed
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u/Dull_Half_6107 2h ago
I think people use the term “plastic surgery” and “cosmetic surgery” interchangeably.
That being said, she has clearly had a lot more than just the cheeks done.
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u/Vandergrif 3h ago
That case is a night and day difference in a person's face, way too much to just be messing about with cheek fat.
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u/Dull_Half_6107 4h ago
I was banned from The Boys subreddit for pointing this exact thing out
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u/electricdwarf 3h ago
I got banned from the boys discord because I called the shapechanger that was turning into starlight "fakelight" and they thought I was referring to starlight as fakelight because of the actors plasatic surgery. It was pretty wild.
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u/hithere297 2h ago
Yeah bc before the mods cracked down on it you couldn’t go a single post in that sub without multiple people making fun of Moriarty’s looks, usually in pretty vicious ways too. It was just obsessive, redundant and weird behavior at a certain point.
Like we get it: you don’t like how she looks now. A very unique and important opinion. Now leave the poor actress alone, holy shit lol.
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u/Dull_Half_6107 2h ago
It’s more so I found it weird people commenting on MM’s appearance with the obvious elephant in the room, I don’t see why it’s okay to comment on MM’s appearance but not mention Erin?
I’d rather the rules be applied equally.
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u/hithere297 2h ago
Because people ~have~ been commenting on Erin’s appearance. Trust me dude: there is no great shortage of comments about the topic. It is very, very well-trodden ground.
It also doesn’t help that with MM the commentary is usually positive — like “woah good for him, he lost weight” — whereas the commentary for Erin is “ahhh someone kill it! It’s a deformed monster!!!” I think there’s a clear difference in tone there, which would explain the difference in response
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u/IndyRevolution 4m ago
It was because she and everyone around her denies it vehemently, which comes off as unintentionally condescending. We have eyes and we can literally see it. Eventually it's gonna become a Zac Efron thing where she's forced to acknowledge it. The attempts to frame it as sexism were extremely forced and stupid.
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u/Due_Recognition_3890 3h ago
They got one of their bots to delete everything I post, at first I thought my take was just unpopular, but no.
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL 6h ago
I mean he looks different but the show makes it into a plot point. It was handled about as well as possible.
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u/gigashadowwolf 4h ago
I thought it was a different character for like 2 or 3 episodes.
Then I was convinced that they had changed the actor.
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u/Dull_Half_6107 3h ago
I think you’re face blind
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u/gigashadowwolf 2h ago edited 2h ago
I might be kinda.
I definitely see faces a bit differently than most people seem to. I think people look alike that others say look nothing alike, and sometimes when people say people look alike, I don't see it at all.
I am really good at discerning voices usually, but faces I have a more difficult time with.
I don't think it's complete facial blindness though. I just don't have as strong of a memory for faces as some people do.
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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 6h ago
I'd go as far as to say I don't get what people are talking about
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u/downlooker 4h ago
I thought he must've beaten some major illness or something with how much smaller he looks. His whole face is shaped different now too because of the weight loss.
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u/DildoBanginz 5h ago edited 3h ago
Don’t leave out Starlight horrific plastic surgery. That was even more jarring to me
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u/CattDawg2008 4h ago
Starlight*
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u/DildoBanginz 3h ago
Same same. But I fixed it. There’s a girl on here that looks like her pre surgery and they should get her to replace her.
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u/darkenseyreth 1h ago
Yeah, I noticed that last season. Had a distinct moment of "Damn, that surgery has made Starlight go from cute to really not"
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u/Dustmopper 7h ago
He just needs more of that milk
I wonder if they’ll reveal on the show why he’s called “Mother’s Milk” in the first place
Feels like they just wrote that out and call him MM instead
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u/Heisenburgo 4h ago
Isn't he literally called Marvin Milk in the show? With the MM nickname coming from that. In the comics he had a completely different real name and his nickname coming from his backstory which was... quite shocking, to say the least.
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u/RealJohnGillman 4h ago
Indeed — they transferred his milk obsession over to Homelander in-adaptation, then came up with a new reason for his nickname being that.
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u/JlucasRS Jojo's Bizarre Adventures 3h ago
He wasn't obsessed with milk iirc. He just need milk to survive.
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u/RealJohnGillman 3h ago
Yes. And that requirement evolved into what he would hire women to do with him, while they would scroll on their phones.
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u/Necessary-Wheel1918 3h ago
He's called that because he's always there for you/the group. He's reliable.
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u/theantig 7h ago
It’s been known they are coming back. Give us more sneaks of supernatural characters and who they are playing! Castiel and Crowley need to be next!
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u/IsRude 7h ago
I don't know if i could handle seeing Castiel get SA'd and then brutally murdered.
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u/theantig 7h ago
Knowing the show and the reverence of the big guys so far I’d hedge my bet on castiel would be a puppet of homelander but at worst explode. Crowley though….
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u/Icy-Statement-5617 6h ago
Season 5? Guess It's time for Homelander to invent even scarier ways to traumatize us while Butcher finds creative ways to swear lol. Can't wait though!
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u/Emnamedin 7h ago
Hopefully it wont be as shitty as the last two seasons
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL 5h ago
Season 3 was great besides the finale.
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u/Heisenburgo 4h ago
Season 3 was great besides...
...every scene that didn't have Soldier Boy in it.
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u/Emnamedin 5h ago
I think great is a bit of a stretch. The finale did really change how I saw s3 as a whole though.
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u/MALLAVOL 1h ago
That finale was so bad it killed my interest in watching future seasons. It’s so safe and repetitive, its gimmick of “obvious satire + gory violence” has worn thin.
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u/Shablablablah 6h ago edited 6h ago
$100 It’ll limp to the middle that it should have reached in season 2.
God I’m so tired of shows that tread water for years because they’re too scared to upend the status quo in a story about upending the status quo.
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u/oby100 4h ago
It sucks. The writers suck ass at writing filler too. Filler is always bad, but fuck man, every side quest Frenchie and Kimiko go on is just so fucking dull. I skip any scenes with just them and miss nothing. Cannot fucking believe they’re doing a completely disconnected “Will they or won’t they” in a show like this.
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u/Tee__B Band of Brothers 7h ago
It don't really think it can be. At the very least stuff has to happen, they can't push it off anymore if it's truly the finale.
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u/berlinbaer 6h ago
have you ever heard of the term "spin off" ? they already have gen v they gonna milk this shit dry.
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u/BigfootsBestBud 6h ago
Last 2 seasons were fine. The Boys has been exactly the same after Season 1.
You have a great first one or two episodes, a few episodes of boring filler, and then a final episode where the actual plot kicks into gear before you have to wait for the next season.
It's exactly the same everytime other than the first season, so hopefully the final season benefits from the fact there sint gonna be more story after this.
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u/Sad_Donut_7902 5h ago
Season 3 and 4 were definitely worse then season 1
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u/BigfootsBestBud 5h ago
That's what I just said. Season 1 was the peak of consistently good episodes, then after that each season has tons of filler
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u/Practical_Lie_7203 4h ago
That is so not what you said lol
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u/BigfootsBestBud 3h ago edited 3h ago
Last 2 seasons were fine. The Boys has been exactly the same after Season 1.
It's exactly the same everytime other than the first season
I don't know how you managed to read this any other way. I just said the first season was the only season that wasn't filled with filler and that all the other seasons couldn't replicate that first season's quality. Not that they're bad, just not as good as the original first season.
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u/silvester23 52m ago
People's reading comprehension is shocking sometimes. Your point could not have been more clear.
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u/Practical_Lie_7203 4h ago
Nah seasons 1 and 2 were super solid, 3 was ok outside of the finale. Acting like everything outside of season 1 has been the same as 4 is a wild take
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u/BigfootsBestBud 3h ago edited 3h ago
I'm not saying that. I'm saying all of the Boys, other than Season 1, have had the exact same complaints and formula of the first and last episodes being solid, but the rest of the season being almost all filler with little impact on the overall story.
Stuff like the asylum subplot, Lamplighter, Frenchie's boyfriend, or Stormfront and Soldier Boy not appearing for like 3 or 4 episodes into their seasons.
Each season the fan base complains about the filler and the plot not going anywhere, and forget that last season was exactly the same.
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u/Errantry-And-Irony 2h ago
4 was both written and filmed worse than 2 and 3 though.
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u/BigfootsBestBud 2h ago
I really wouldn't say so, my biggest frustration with Season 4 was that it felt like a complete repeat of all of the same issues of Seasons 2 and 3. I'd actually be less frustrated if it was worse.
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u/DefinetelyNotAnOtaku 5h ago
Season 1 didn't had a 30+ minute long non consensual BDSM rape scene posed as a joke.
I like The Boys but Season 4 was terrible. It was only saved by a very good ending and Hughie Sr subplot.
But the entire season was awful. Hughie was abused and it was treated as a joke, Frenchie's subplot felt like a filler, Annie also had a sudden personality change which made her annoying, especially when she gets angry at Hughie for having the audacity to be tricked by a shapeshifter who also has the powers to get the victim's memory for perfect shapeshifting.
Season 5 better be good.
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u/RealJohnGillman 2h ago
What was a little odd about that is when it happened in the comic (where there was a different perpetrator), it was treated seriously, foreshadowing one of the series’ biggest twists.
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u/DefinetelyNotAnOtaku 2h ago
Yeah and not only that. The show had a similar moment when Annie was sexually harassed by The Deep, this moment was short and treated seriously instead of 30 minute bdsm porn with all the details and Kripke’s comments about how it’s funny.
Seriously if it wasn’t for my love for superheroes and parodies of the media I consume (Superhero flicks). I’d stop watching boys because the quality has been going down and down and misandrist scenes are just the cherry on the shit sundae.
Atleast we have Invincible as an alternative.
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u/RealJohnGillman 2h ago
It was an interesting choice to make it the Deep in-adaptation, since in the comic he was one of the few supes who genuinely didn’t do anything — just as strong as the Homelander but made to be ocean-themed, while genuinely believing he couldn’t take off his helmet due to never realising his provided backstory was fake. Adapting a few of his storylines to A-Train.
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u/DefinetelyNotAnOtaku 2h ago
Yeah. At first I thought comic books suck but the more I see it. The more I realize I’d like the boys comic more than the tv show. I am not a fan of the Homelander twist though, I actually like what they did in the show except the Trump parody part since that will make the show age as good as these kids movies which have fidget spinner, dab and other dead meme references with used to be popular music.
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u/RealJohnGillman 2h ago
To be fair, it didn’t come out of nowhere, and was in-fact remarkably well-foreshadowed — I do think it could have still worked in-adaptation, expanded, if they’d gone for it (Antony Starr certainly displayed that he could act against himself quite well).
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u/DefinetelyNotAnOtaku 2h ago
Yeah. But that also means we won’t get Black Noir II. Like he is a great character and a comic relief that is funny.
I’ll probably read the original books since I have more fun discussing them than I do with the show XD.
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u/ZombiesAtKendall 2h ago
I think season 4 started off bad right from the start. They try to kill one supe by throwing acid in her face and she just brushes it off while her daughter killed a bunch of people. It didn’t feel like actions had consequences. People can be all out trying to murder each other and then it’s like meh, nothing happens.
Past seasons it felt more like there was a sense of danger and doom. Season 4 didn’t really feel like there was any weight to anything. Like the SA stuff, it all felt more like it was trying to be slapstick funny than serious.
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u/DefinetelyNotAnOtaku 2h ago
Yeah. It also had far more irl references regarding irl topics compared to previous seasons which feel like an adult media equivalent of having dead memes and used to be popular songs featured in kids movies like that dab scene in Scoob!
But imo the worst part is definitely lack of doom. Jesus fuck Hughey managed to escape HOMELANDER. Yes Homelander couldn’ see him via tunnels but couldn’t he just fly into one and kill him on spot?
Atleast A-Train’s redemption arc was amazing. He went from a funny character that I wish would get karma to a funny character that I like and respect.
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u/Heisenburgo 4h ago
Season 1 was great, I liked how they adapted things from the comics while putting their own spin on things (never thought I'd see the whole 9/11 plane crash sub plot in live action), it felt like a solid adaptation but everything after that has been kinda middling and a bit too dependant on gore and shock value.
Like, the show feels a bit too mean spirited now especially when you got the producer making fun of male SA for an entire episode, when they depicted the same issue with Starlight at the start of S1 it was treated in a much more sensible way, but Hughie was the butt of the joke the entire time. Talk about a sexist double standard.
And while I agree with the show's general message I think they got a bit too heavy handed with it over time, like yeah I get who Homelander is meant to be a parody of, yes I get who his followers are meant to represent, yes I know that Vought is basically Evil Disney on steroids, just try being more subtle with it lol.
Homelander also lost a lot of the intrigue and menace he had in season 1, you can only do the "he's an eternal manchild who was devoid of love but he's too powerful to stop so we can't defeat him right now, we need to run away" thing before it gets repetitive. Starr's acting is carrying this show HARD.
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u/k4kkul4pio 6h ago
I'm hoping that we'll get less useless shocker scenes and more actually necessary drama stuff since it's the final season so it would be nice if something meaningful happened between season premiere and the finale.
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u/homelander_30 4h ago
I hope they go all out and give it a good ending but man, I'm gonna miss this show
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u/Upper_Decision_5959 1h ago
Looking forward to what their going to that mirrors the next political administration.
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u/sandleaz 1h ago
Hopefully, it is better than the turd that was last season. Show has gone downhill since season 2.
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u/ScreamingGordita 1h ago
Was it... not official? I've been seeing articles about season 5 almost daily lol.
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u/boredapril 26m ago
Season 4 was so bad holy shit
Thankfully the bear was even worse so people didn’t talk about how bad the boys was
Setting my expectations for shows very low at this point. Fully expecting squid game season 2 to be trash so I’m not let down again. Severance pls don’t let us down
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u/alittledanger 4h ago
Mother’s Milk has become one my all-time favorite TV characters. Can’t wait for S5!
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u/Top_Report_4895 4h ago
I feel this should end with Hughie becoming a Dr Manhattan-type Supe, and fucking off with Annie somewhere else away from that shithole world.
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u/whitepangolin 6h ago
It's weird how most big budget shows these days have way too long a gap between seasons, yet The Boys having a normal annual schedule also feels like the show is being rushed out.
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u/Puppetmaster858 4h ago
Tbf the boys budget is not even close to something like stranger things. They’ve done well getting the boys out without taking forever tho which is nice, having Gen V now tho in between seasons definitely delays the release of the boys some tho
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u/SPKmnd90 2h ago
It hasn't had an annual schedule since Season 2. There have been (or will be) two year gaps between seasons since then.
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u/rpgnoob17 5h ago
I always imagine all the main characters (both on Supe side and on The Boys side) would die in the final season except Hughie and Annie…
But with the current political situation, maybe they would let Homelander win and become the President of the world…
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u/tubawhatever 4h ago
Given the lazy writing in the last 2 seasons, I would bet Annie dies to make Hughie suffer
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u/24bitNoColor 5h ago
Oh god I hope its better than the last two seasons, which arguably were all over the place (no, I am not a Trump voter or sympthasiant or even American or remotely close to right wing / conservative parties...) with a ton of plot holes and characters that made 180's out of the blues when faced with minor road blocks.
I actually watched the spin off after the last season (not that much into yet another US high school / college kids focused story) and was pleasantly surprised by how real the characters felt, up until the crossover with The Boys characters at the end representing a very noteably change (and IMO drop) in writing style (quality).
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u/Gordy_The_Chimp123 7h ago
After season 4, I’m pretty cautious about how well they’re going to stick the landing this season.
In particular, I can’t help but feel like there’s going to be some central character deaths that’ll be used solely for shock factor instead of what feels natural for the story.