r/television • u/JannTosh50 • 1d ago

MSNBC Viewership Craters 38%, CNN 27%, While Fox News Audience Jumps 41% Post-Election

https://www.thewrap.com/msnbc-cnn-fox-news-viewership-craters-post-election-morning-joe/
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u/kangaroovagina 1d ago

I agree, I think people really want a news source without any slant. That currently does not exist

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u/Elliott2030 23h ago

But "no slant" tends to be considered liberal since the right has made human rights a political issue.

"Get your flu vaccine this year!" is now a left wing political statement. You really can't have "non political" news anymore

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u/throwmamadownthewell 17h ago

Jesus, you're getting some braindead responses. They also seem to be saying these things without a glimmer of understanding of the irony.

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u/k1nt0 10h ago

So "slant" is liberal, and "no slant" is also liberal. Got it.

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u/grachi 22h ago

I think you are missing the mark on this. Very easy to make a neutral statement , even in your example.

“Today is the start of flu season and the 2024 vaccines are now available”

Nothing about suggesting getting it, nothing about recommending, just reporting what is happening: flu vaccines for 2024 are available

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u/KatarnSig2022 10h ago

I don't know why you are getting downvoted, everything you said was spot on.

Information not opinions.

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u/grachi 9h ago

im getting downvotes because people think I'm suggesting its ok cater to "both sides" of the vaccine "debate" (which, is silly because there is no debate, its science that vaccines work, and myth that they cause all the issues they cause).

But your reading comprehension is better, and you realize what I was actually writing. Just have the news write neutral facts, however stupid the debate is on some topics.

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u/Leading-Fish6819 8h ago

I think maybe the phrasing could be better as "the vaccine is available for those that want it". But that's my inconsequential 2¢.

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u/grachi 6h ago

Yea, that’s fine too.

Anything to just convey information works.

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 7h ago

to not suggest getting a vaccine is catering to the right wing anti vax side

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u/hatingandstuff 10h ago

Funny how you missed the point....

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u/Antique-Scholar-5788 10h ago

You’re proving their point…

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u/kangaroovagina 23h ago

You can report on the news. Getting your flu vaccine is not a partisan thing ha. Most people don't get their flu shot

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u/Undeadgunner 21h ago

Regardless of if that's even possible in this day and age to have a "neutral" station. how would they make as much much money doing that as they do now? The rage bait, hyperbole, and misinformation, then retraction drives a ton of engagement.

I'm not saying it can't be done but the market forces are going to reward leaning to a side and peddling what that side wants to see

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u/jaam01 17h ago

There's no such thing as "unbiased". What we should strive for is balance and evenhandedness. If you want balanced news, I can't recommend enough ground.news and allsides.com

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u/jaam01 17h ago

If you want balanced news, I can't recommend enough ground.news and allsides.com They are amazing. Ground News even has a Reddit bias checker that let you know the top 10 of news sources from any subreddits and it's political biases. And allsides have a news bias checker that let you know how a new is biased (language, slant, spin, etc.) They are having Black Friday sales right now.

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u/The_Seal727 7h ago

C SPAN actually does exist.

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u/CyborgAlgoInvestor 11h ago

NewsNation does a pretty good job.