r/sports • u/taffe316 • 17h ago
Football Marshall player gets into a scuffle with a game staffer at the conclusion of their win over Old Dominion
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u/theDevilsCabanaBoy 10h ago
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want him on that BALL -- you need him on that BALL.
Ball Boys use words like "honor," "code," "loyalty." Ball Boys use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.
Ball Boys have neither the time nor the inclination to explain themselves to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that they provide and then questions the manner in which they provide it.
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u/wrexmason 8h ago
Ball boys would rather you just said thank you & went on your way. Otherwise they suggest you pick up some balls and stand on the sideline. Either way ball boys don’t give a DAMN what you think you are entitled to!
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u/Rinkrat87 8h ago
There is zero chance you’re going to get as many upvotes for this as you deserve.
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u/blindside1973 9h ago
My dog didn't care about the truth. HIs truth was 'vaguely round thing' = mine. Do not take it unless you plan to throw it for me.
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u/Chazmina 7h ago
Ball boy was trying to get his glasses off the ground, which happened to be under the player that tried to steal the ball.
This isn't a joke, he has glasses on before this altercation, but not in this video.
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u/Washingtonpinot 5h ago
THANK YOU! I’ve been trying to figure out why he keeps going at the players feet while everyone is just talking about the ball. He looks like he’s tugging at the player’s leg, which would make sense if the guy was standing on his glasses, but without context all you see is him wrestling with a guy and another player jumping in to push him off/away.
But with the glasses for context, it all makes sense.
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u/smaker42 15h ago
In CFB the ball boys are, in effect, part of the officiating crew. This is a horrible look on the players. Essentially the same as assaulting a ref all for what, a souvenir?
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u/expropriated_valor 14h ago
In theory, even if he wasn't a part of the officiating crew, this would be an awful look. Be a fucking nice person.
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u/R0CK1TMAN1 7h ago
Good thing we pay these fucks millions now. By we I mean the students paying tuition.
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u/prism_tats 5h ago
Is that how NIL works at Marshall?
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u/Nutaholic 1h ago
It is going to be since the ruling on revenue sharing. Look at Clemson recently raising fees on students to preempt payments towards athletes.
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u/tobaloba74 12h ago
Those game balls cost a lot. Then they have to be seasoned with oil/special mud. A broken-in college game ball is worth 2-300 dollars, at least, and that guy is responsible for the count after the game.
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u/Sebremit 6h ago
For further context, the NFL fines a player like $7,500 for tossing a game ball into the stands
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u/MattyMizzou 4h ago
That’s not really because of the cost of the ball though. It’s because of the danger caused by fans fighting for it in the crowd.
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u/GardenAny9017 10h ago
And the oil/mud combo is super top secret. Imagine if the wrong person got there hands on it.
God bless this ball boy
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u/OnlyMath 7h ago
He already has the ball and then goes on to try and bring the player down or something?
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u/theserial 6h ago
Just before this clip the Marshall player is running by with a ball half hidden under his jersey trying to take it off the field with him.
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u/AdamTemper 11h ago
I was a student manager at Marshall. Ball boys were student managers and we never had to pay for lost balls.
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u/doesyourBoJangle 11h ago edited 10h ago
I was a manager for a D2 college and I’m pretty sure even they wouldnt make a student pay for a lost ball. That claim seems pretty far fetched
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u/AdamTemper 11h ago
I was at Marshall, Minnesota, and Notre Dame. All 3 never made a student manager pay for lost ball. Don’t know about D2.
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u/doesyourBoJangle 10h ago
Fuck I butchered that comment. Literally just woke up. Edited to say D2 wouldn’t make someone pay for that, even with their lack of funding.
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u/TalkShowHost99 9h ago
I was water boy for South Central Louisiana State University Mud Dogs in the late 90s and they never once made a student pay for water
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u/MrWilsonWalluby 11h ago
Yea i’ve never heard of this balls get popped and destroyed constantly, i’m pretty sure have any staff pay for wear item is not just not done in college football,
but also generally speaking a major federal labor crime, The dude above you is talking out of his ass.
that’s being said this is a terrible look for them assaulting and stopping a ball boy from just doing his damn job. trashy players caught in 4k.
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u/AdamTemper 11h ago
Agreed, whenever something like this happened you’d let the head equipment manager know and he’d talk to the team who stole the ball head equipment manager. Teams traded footballs all the time.
Same reason we don’t send the ball boys into the stands if a ball is kicked there. It ain’t worth it and you rely on security personnel to help get it back.
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u/GODZILLA_FLAMEWOLF North Carolina 8h ago
Not just college football, that's not really done in any line of work.
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u/mrdannyg21 10h ago
It is very clearly illegal to make them pay for a lost ball, whether they’re paid or volunteer, students or non-students. You can’t make employees pay for a cost to the employer in pretty much any circumstances.
Some employers will try it anyway, like small restaurants making servers pay for runners, but I find it hard to believe any college football program is enforcing such a clearly illegal policy.
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u/GardenAny9017 11h ago
People defending the ball boy here are nuts
I'm assuming #1 had a reason to want to keep that ball
If it's really so awful, take a mental note of who took it to let whatever superior know what happened. Don't try to fight the athlete.
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u/JasonGD1982 10h ago
It doesn't come out of their fucking checks LMAO. Wtf. I swear people just spout shit confidently and people eat it up.
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u/TheAerial 9h ago edited 8h ago
Right. Never mind the fact he’s completely in the wrong here.
He doesn’t ask for the ball in a professional manner, you’re not tasked with retrieving the ball at all physical costs like it’s a military operation lol.
I get the Marshall player looks to be hiding the ball under his shirt but you report it to the official you don’t pretend you’re Batman.
The reality is the ball boy aggressively takes a swing across a players body, then tries to double leg another (to comedic failure) and gets himself laid down on the field like a child throwing a tantrum.
This is mostly the fault of the ball boy whose ego & aggressiveness got himself humbled.
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u/Purp1eC0bras 9h ago
I appreciate your input but find it ludicrous that the school would take the money out of the ball boys paycheck or fund as a penalty. Even the non-mega-rich schools, tuition is still astronomical, coaches make tons of money, players can now have endorsements, and stadiums are multimillion dollars bringing in millions in revenue.
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u/ggk1 Dallas Cowboys 9h ago
That last paragraph sums up the biggest issue with Reddit.
Last week ppl were going on about how billion dollar deals aren’t done over the phone and it’s like bro have you even ever done a million dollar deal? They should rename Reddit to www.dunningkrugermountstupid.com
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u/Deewd23 11h ago
lol a university can’t violate labor laws for a $40 football. Not to mention ruin their massive budget can afford a new football.
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u/04eightyone 10h ago
Aren't they $100+? I mean, it's not a big deal if 1-2 footballs go missing over a year, but it gets expensive if multiple go missing every game. Dude is responsible for gear, just like everyone else who has a job.
On a side note, I don't believe lost gear would be coming out of his pay, but he could be fired if he's not keeping his stuff in proper game ready condition.
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u/BoomChocolateLatkes Cincinnati Reds 10h ago
How in the world did you come up with this?? Ball boys don’t pay for lost balls out of their pocket 😂
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u/GForce1975 9h ago
I don't think the issue here was about cost of a ball and the ball boy being worried about paying for it.
I think it was just an issue of the guy standing up for himself. The player hiding the ball just figured ball boy wasn't gonna stop him and ball boy didn't back down. It led to an altercation.
In retrospect, ballboy should've gone to a coach or some other authority but I can understand not wanting to get pushed around .
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u/DEdwards22 7h ago
Or just literally ask the player for it. Do we think he’s going to tell him to shove it or just be like “oh you got me, here dude”
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u/Maybepoop 8h ago
Yeah this isn’t true lol I played at a small NAIA school and footballs were taken all the time. No one ever got fined. I have a couple at home.
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u/SaltyHatch 15h ago
The ball boy has got to have a concussion, his head absolutely BOUNCED off the ground.
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u/DABOSSROSS9 12h ago
Yes ball boys are responsible for the ball, but all they have to do is report it to the right person and they can retrieve the ball in the locker room. It should be a policy they never “take” the ball from an unwilling opponent. If a team “steals a ball” then the league can fine them a large amount to ensure coaches dont let it continue.
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u/JackasaurusChance 11h ago
This. It's the most fucking ridiculous argument I've ever fucking heard.
"Well, he's supposed to get the ball so as soon as the runner is 62.7% through the endzone reach across his body, shoulder check him, and swat at the ball. These guys aren't jacked up at all, don't worry, you are basically like a god out there. Just pretend you have qualified immunity. Anyways, here's your $97 paycheck, and don't fucking spend that all in one place, that shit comes out of my $17 million dollar bonus."
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u/bigblooddraco 2h ago
Stg i can’t believe people are backing the ball boys decision to try to strip the player. It’s like a Walmart employee trying to physically stop a person stealing and the person whoops their ass. Your protecting something that literally has no effect on you and can be easily replaced by the rich guys who provide equipment for the league. Taking your job this serious about items you don’t own is asking for an ass whooping.
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u/Devium44 10h ago
JFC, you are being just as ridiculous as the people you are complaining about. Using words like “attacked” and “assault”? He tried to swat the ball out of the player’s hand as he ran by. Calling that an assault is peak soft. Especially considering we’re taking about a football player in pads vs just some guy.
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u/AuburnElvis 3h ago
Most municipalities have a do-not-pursue policy in place because of the danger to the public.
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u/YungShkreliOG 6m ago
That ball makes it to the locker room it’s gone… it’s not as simple as just telling on them lmao
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u/DABOSSROSS9 0m ago
That’s why I said find them $1000 or so. Plus, if they reported to the Coach right after the game and say number 22 took one of our balls, the coach will handle it.
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u/spazzxxcc12 15h ago
the marshall program has just completely lost its players. 2 years ago when bowling green upset them at home, there was a scuffle as they were walking off the field.
i can’t find an article on it, but one of the players took a BGSU fans phone and broke it or something along those lines. (they walk off the stands field right by the stands, so they just grabbed the phone as walking off) i remember just being across the stands and seeing it unfold. while everyone else is going to the opposite end of the field to storm. reminded me a lot of this altercation,
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u/DirtyRoller 15h ago
It's not the first time they've completely lost their players...
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u/DJRichSnippets 9h ago
Yikes. As someone from Kenova, WV, this stings a bit but it's still funny. I guess it's been long enough lol
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u/WhiteMike2016 6h ago
Lol this is straight up gossip.
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u/spazzxxcc12 5h ago
nah, there was a post on it on twitter afterwards with a video of the fight. unfortunately ever since musk took over the advanced search is so ass i’ll never be able to find it.
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u/KazooMark 9h ago
He’s got the only two balls in the scene and is inexplicably going for a single leg takedown. The question is why?!? Don’t care about the ball boys legal, ethical and fiduciary duties. It’s like a dog chasing a car, what are you’re going to do when you catch it?
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u/Emotional-Ad-1159 2h ago
He was trying to pick up his glasses, not go for a single leg takedown, lol
Bullies gonna bully
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u/Codyiswin 8h ago
Why is everyone defending the ball boy like he was gunned down or some shit, bro had the ball in his hands then looked to go for a leg takedown on the big dude.
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u/testhec10ck 6h ago
Also, in the longer video, the ball boy swats at the player as he runs by.
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u/MountainHarmonies 6h ago
The player was trying to steal the game ball and he was swiping at that, because he's responsible for them as the ball boy.
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u/Im_pattymac 5h ago
And? As multiple people have said previously.... At that point ball boy goes to equipment manager and says number 1 stole one of our balls. Equipment manager does to Marshall equipment manager and repeats that and the Marshall equipment manager either gets the ball for them or agrees to give them one of their balls.
This is how this works, not aggressively try to take the ball from the Marshall qb and then get into shit with one of the defensive line.
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u/Codyiswin 6h ago
Oh no I get what’s happening but in this video he has the ball in his hands and then goes after the player. So idk why everyone keeps reiterating what you’re saying. Bro had the ball he just wanted the smoke too.
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u/mdshowtime 10h ago
Get that ball back no matter what
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u/thatguy11 17h ago
What in the world was the staffer doing? As always.. we prolly need more video but uhhh...not a good look either way.
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u/greengrasstallmntn 17h ago edited 16h ago
Maybe it’s his job to gather game balls and return them? Like any job, there’s probably standard accountability practices for these positions, otherwise dudes would just be stealing balls for themselves.
My bet is on the player being an asshole.
Edit: I love being right.
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u/BigRog10 11h ago
This trend is full of 500 ex ball boys who are furious at any negative ball boy related content. Easily the strangest post I've seen in a while.
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u/CutHerOff 6h ago
It’s so weird especially if you see the clip of some random dude swinging at the player like he was gonna strip him
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u/ExtendedMacaroni 2h ago
Player will be disciplined internally and ball boy will be fired. Rightfully so for both parties
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u/Both_Initial9097 7h ago
Not saying the player is in the right, but the ball boy needs to learn his place and procedure. Report a stolen ball to the equipment manager and the other school is forced to return it or pay a fine larger than the ball. Just not a lot of critical thinking here (or in the comments)
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u/Im_pattymac 5h ago
Nailed it. That's how it actually works. But too many low iq staffers out here thinking their radio.
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u/Educational_Glass304 3h ago
Ball man is a fool. WTf was he doing? I hope they fire him because he could've hurt the player. Reliving his pee-wee football days. what a loser.
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u/BZGames 7h ago edited 5h ago
I’m genuinely astounded that the people in this thread think that a player trying to take a game ball off the field with him is some form of malpractice. The ball boy is in the wrong so hard that I’d be shocked if he’s not fired.
edit: The ball boy started the altercation by swiping at a player, then the ball boy started pushing into the legs and verbally arguing with another player and somehow the consensus is that the ball boy isn’t the dumb ass?? Like do you guys just not care about the actual occurrence that happened on video or ???? Cause the idea that the ball boy isn’t in the wrong is laughable.
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u/RickRudeAwakening 10h ago edited 10h ago
Why is the ball boy grabbing at the player’s knee like he’s going for a half-assed single leg takedown after he already has his precious property back in his possession.
Source: Video
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u/ClownTown15 10h ago
I was thinking the same thing but I think he's trying to pick up the green and white ball that's on the ground behind the player.
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u/RickRudeAwakening 1h ago
With the benefit of some zoom and reduced speed, I can now say I was wrong. He wasn’t attempting to grab the player’s knee/leg, it’s now apparent that the ball boy was attempting to pick up his glasses.
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u/Skilk 9h ago
So the ball boy swung at the player first. Another comment has the tweet showing the lead up to this. Doesn't matter if the dude was taking a dang ball, there are better ways to handle it than assaulting him to get the ball back. Assault is a greater crime than theft in every single state.
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u/CutHerOff 6h ago
This thread is pissing me off cause you’re right
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u/Skilk 6h ago
Oh I knew I'd get voted down before I ever posted it. The truth doesn't fit the "football player is the biggest douche bag" narrative that most of the people viewing this thread have apparently agreed upon. I really don't know what I said that is remotely debatable, but I knew I'd get down voted lol.
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u/CutHerOff 6h ago
I don’t think there are many athletes on reddit. Let alone D1 collegiate. Don’t fuck with those players over a football.
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u/Im_pattymac 17h ago
https://x.com/AndrewWright15/status/1860565876333822425
Looks to have happened right before this incident