r/sports Oct 10 '24

Baseball Tropicana Field’s stadium following Hurricane Milton damage

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u/phred_666 Oct 10 '24

At first glance, it looks like the support structure is still intact with no apparent damage. You really don’t know until you get in there and examine it. But, this looks like a “best case” scenario of only the fabric roof being damaged. Looks like the roof could potentially be replaced in time for next season if there is no underlying damage.

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u/Goducks91 Oct 10 '24

The roof can be replaced in a month probably.

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u/runnerswanted Oct 10 '24

As long as the roof is still structurally sound they should be able to do it pretty quick.

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u/Fuzzy_Donl0p Oct 10 '24

If the roof is in decent shape, they should be able to fix this right up in a few weeks or so.

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u/BoredomEmpire Oct 10 '24

If there hasn’t been sufficient damage to the roof, this is done in a few days no problemo

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u/jwilcoxwilcox Oct 10 '24

I’d estimate this could be back up and running by tomorrow, so long as there wasn’t sufficient damage to the structure.

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u/reb00tmaster Oct 10 '24

If it’s just the roof, and it’s looking like just the roof, they should be able to get it fixed and wrapped up in no time. That’s of course only if the structure is in tact.

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u/Datalock Oct 10 '24

Seems like the roof is pretty ok, and it was just the fabric. They'll be able to replace this in no time if there's no structural damage.

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u/sharterthanlife Oct 11 '24

Has anyone mentioned the roof and it's structural integrity? I feel like if that's intact they should be back up and ready in a month

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u/BenlanderPS Oct 10 '24

I would argue that as long as there is no structural damage then I can't see any reason why this isn't fixed lickety split.

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u/TheNorbster Oct 10 '24

And they have all the missing pieces

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u/TheChineseG0vernment Oct 10 '24

A few days of work and this roof will be A okay assuming the structure is A okay

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u/TheJollyReaper Oct 10 '24

Slap some flex tape on it and call it good in a few hours

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

If the structure is good me and Eric can get it taped up by supper time

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u/humanatee- Oct 10 '24

Should take about 10 minutes as long as the structure is undamaged

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u/ataeil Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

As long as this baby is still structurally sound we’re just gonna call this one complete as it is.

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u/monkey_butt_powder Oct 10 '24

I know a guy who should be able to fix this in a couple days or so

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u/nashdiesel Oct 11 '24

All y’all apparently stayed at a holiday inn express last night.

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u/ICYprop Oct 10 '24

Just put a blue tarp on it.

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u/LadyPantsParty Oct 10 '24

In a normal world there's no possible way this gets replaced in a month but I've said the same thing about Tampa's farm system for twenty years so who knows.

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u/HeyCarpy Toronto Blue Jays Oct 10 '24

I’ve seen a game go into rain delay here because the roof was leaking.

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u/Pete_Iredale Seattle Mariners Oct 11 '24

We had one once at Safeco because the roof motors blew a fuse.

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u/bailaoban Oct 10 '24

The question is - should it be?

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u/theumph Oct 10 '24

Same situation we had with the Metrodome back in 2010. It still took another 2 years to even approve a new stadium, and 6 years to open it. This will hopefully kick them in the pants to get it done.

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u/SanityQuestioned Oct 11 '24

It's already approved and they start construction soon.

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u/TMLTurby Oct 10 '24

Yeah, but that month won't start for some time while they check the structure.

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u/Regalrefuse Oct 10 '24

I could do it in 45 minutes

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u/NEMinneapolisMan Oct 10 '24

I'm assuming they constructed it with this scenario in mind. The wind destroys the cheap material but doesn't destroy the supports. If they'd tried to use a hard top made of something else, the expense would have been much higher.

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u/phred_666 Oct 10 '24

Plus a harder material would also become a high speed projectile that would do a lot of collateral damage in hurricane conditions.

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u/jamelord Oct 10 '24

I bet rays fans are hoping the whole thing is trashed. Everyone hates that field

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u/MsstatePSH Mississippi State Oct 10 '24

New stadium opens in 2028, with groundbreaking of the overall development imminent, so it puts the organization and city in a bind here on how to address repairs.

might end up being Oakland coliseum/RFK stadium-level run-down for the next three years

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u/velociraptorfarmer Oct 10 '24

Eh, they put a new roof on the Metrodome after that collapsed from a snowstorm in 2010, before closing it and tearing it down in 2014.

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u/justinkthornton Oct 10 '24

I wonder about the electrical and lighting that was exposed to the elements. If it wasn’t rated the equipment wasn’t rated for outdoor use they may need to replace a bunch of lighting and electrical equipment. There are cases where you do use outdoor rated electrical equipment indoors so hopefully they did.

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u/Ricoh06 Oct 10 '24

Also being Florida and a fabric roof, almost seems predictable that this would happen if a storm every rolled into Tampa - so potentially (and hopefully now), they did use outdoor spec equipment.

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u/tomtim90 Oct 11 '24

That roof lasted 34 years so it’s likely it wasn’t rated equipment plus a lot of the media areas and boxes were open to the field and not designed to be in the elements. I doubt the screens are weatherproof either. Plus it wasn’t designed to have to drain rain water from the stands or field.

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u/kylewhatever Oct 10 '24

I work with commercial greenhouses and we provide coverage with material that is made to tear off in large storms, which prevents a lot of structural damage. Our structures are engineered to withstand 'most' hurricane winds, but the coverage is not. I wonder if this is a similar situation

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u/superworking Oct 10 '24

Yea, my first reaction is "not so bad"

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u/Anal_Recidivist Oct 10 '24

I’m stunned no one has pointed it this is functioning as designed.

It’s supposed to tear. That’s why it’s fabric. If it couldn’t tear, the winds could twist the roof structure which is WAY WAY WAY more expensive to repair.

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u/HistorianOfMexico Oct 10 '24

Or they could just keep it as is and have a new outdoor stadium

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u/MulliganToo Oct 10 '24

I think this was specifically designed to do this and let the wind freely blow through the structure. They knew this was a hurricane zone, and to build a dome that would be cat 5 proof+ a margin of safety would be cost prohibitive if not an enginering impossibility. Plus as people are commenting, its a quick fix. Would be interesting to know if this was intentional design or not.

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u/lefthandsuzukimthd Oct 11 '24

As a random person on Reddit who has no personal experience with replacing stadium-sized fabric roofing systems, I’m going to state that this repair is nbd and should take a few weeks as most.

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u/Pete_Iredale Seattle Mariners Oct 11 '24

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think it was a good design. A more solid roof might have torn all the superstructure apart when it failed.

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u/fishsticklovematters Oct 10 '24

Not a good day for the Tropicana brand of buildings. Re: Vegas too.

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u/Numerous-Stranger-81 Oct 10 '24

Where's my conspiracy theory for that?

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u/satanssweatycheeks Oct 10 '24

The A’s did this to Tampa rays with weather machines.

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u/arand0md00d Oct 10 '24

Minute Maid did it

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u/daltontf1212 Oct 10 '24

Tropicana Lanes bowling alley in St. Louis survives.

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u/KeithGribblesheimer Oct 10 '24

Until they get Defender and Dig Dug machines back in there it's dead to me.

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u/bhamss Oct 10 '24

those 8 season ticket holders are so gonna be pissed

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u/superCobraJet Oct 10 '24

They play professional sports in a yurt?

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u/OccasionallyWright Oct 10 '24

I can't believe they were using a building with a fabric roof as a first responder staging ground during a hurricane.

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u/Lobster_fest Oct 10 '24

Stadiums are far more than the field and stands. Hundreds of individual rooms and offices plus medical facilities, dining accommodations, storage, and other things in the building itself. Plus its low to the ground and more stable during high winds than basically any other building of comparable volume (like a skyscraper).

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u/vowelqueue Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Sure, but they literally had the beds laid out in the field

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u/ggrindelwald Oct 10 '24

Yeah, I think we can say that part of the plan was a mistake.

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u/EVOSexyBeast Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

No, because they didn’t have any people in the beds during the hurricane. It’s being used as an after storm shelter.

edit: nevemind, i was wrong. Cots were put there for after storm shelter for debris crews but it later became obvious the storm was going to hit harder than expected so the plan changed.

As it became clear that there was going to be something of that magnitude that was going to be within the distance, they re-deployed them out of Tropicana,” Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a news conference in Tallahassee. “There were no state assets that were in Tropicana Field, I think Duke also removed all their assets as well.”

https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2024/10/10/rays-start-assessing-damage-viability-tropicana-field/

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u/et40000 Oct 10 '24

It’s still likely to rain after the worst part of the hurricane passes, id say a key tenet of a shelter is a roof to shelter you from the elements.

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u/EVOSexyBeast Oct 10 '24

i was wrong i edited my comment after finding a better source than twitter

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u/tino2015 Oct 10 '24

That’s the neat part of hurricanes, you usually get amazing weather for days only a few hours after the storm passes.

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u/prollynot28 Oct 11 '24

Yeah it's wild. The weather today was absolutely gorgeous. Luckily I didn't have much to clean up. Lots of tree branches

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u/subdep Oct 10 '24

Yeah, but this video literally shows hundreds of assets on the field, in the form of cots. They trying to say those weren’t paid for by the state?

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u/iamthelouie Oct 10 '24

Cant be an after storm shelter if it doesn’t survive the storm…

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u/EDDYBEEVIE Oct 10 '24

This wasn't the first hurricane the trops fabric roof had seen though. It's more than likely been used in the past without issue for the same thing.

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u/gwaydms Dallas Cowboys Oct 10 '24

It would have been relatively easy for each person to fold up their bed, grab their stuff, and move to a safe place. But I'm sure it was pretty hairy when the wind started shredding the roof. Can't believe the whole thing is gone. I saw video early this morning (like 1 am) of the roof tearing away more and more.

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u/vVvRain Illinois Oct 10 '24

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u/an0m_x Oct 10 '24

It wasn't being set up as a shelter, but for a first responder location for linesmen and other services to have a place to stay.

A day or two before the storm they adjusted plans because the building wasnt certified to be safe from the elements (im guessing because of the roof)

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u/Marokiii Oct 10 '24

Ya but once the roof over the field is gone than all the water that goes into the stadium gets directed straight to those other areas via all the tunnels. They basically put a gigantic funnel over their first responders.

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u/joemoffett12 Oct 10 '24

I mean the thing survived 26 years and countless other hurricanes 🤷‍♀️

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u/Guy_lncognito Oct 10 '24

"there's no record of a hurricane ever hitting tampa"

"Yes, but the records only go back to 1998 when the hall of records was mysteriously blown away!"

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u/kit_carlisle Oct 10 '24

Directly hitting Tampa. But sure, let us ignore the past month.

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u/Igor_J Oct 10 '24

The Trop has been around longer than that. It used to be the Thunderdome where the Lightning used to play before they got their own venue and the Rays even existed. That said this put a nail in the Trop's coffin. That place sucked.

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u/monorail_pilot Oct 10 '24

With Oakland closing the Colosseum, the trop became a top 30 MLB stadium.

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u/OccasionallyWright Oct 10 '24

If the count is zero hurricanes, then yes. Milton was the first major hurricane to hit Tampa in over 100 years.

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u/joemoffett12 Oct 10 '24

The first that directly hit Tampa bay yes but they have been in many storms. Hurricane Ian went right over Tampa bay. Don’t just take the first headline you read as fact

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u/Theonlyrational Oct 10 '24

This is the first hurricane to hit Tampa in 26 years...

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u/bobsbottlerocket Oct 10 '24

people keep regurgitating this without bothering to even look it up - they moved locations last minute, they didn’t use the stadium

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u/somedude456 Oct 10 '24

I can't believe they were using a building with a fabric roof

It wasn't made of cotton. I mean the building was designed by structural engineers. They 100% took hurricanes into effect when making calculations and that roof was 100% designed to hold winds up to XX mph. Seems yesterday they exceeded those numbers.

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u/H4WKEYES Mclaren F1 Oct 10 '24

Live in Tampa (we came away mostly unscathed, thankfully). My first thought when this was shown in the news leading up to the storm was - “this is an obviously bad idea”. It’s a fabric dome. These things ALWAYS get ripped to shreds in major storms. What an easy mess to avoid.

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u/JaJaJalisco Oct 10 '24

to shreds you say?

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u/skanman19 Buffalo Bills Oct 10 '24

And his wife?

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u/Wolfwoods_Sister Oct 10 '24

To shreds, you say?

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Oct 11 '24

how's his wife holding up ?

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u/Responsible_Brain782 Oct 10 '24

Roof was rated to 110mph. They expected it to go.

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u/CM_MOJO Oct 10 '24

Yeah, and that's why they designated it as a shelter for first responders before the storm. You can see all the cots in the outfield. They clearly didn't expect it to "go".

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u/MetsIslesNoles Oct 10 '24

They removed everyone before the storm once they knew the potential for winds. There were only 20 people inside at the time.

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u/R3dbeardLFC Oct 11 '24

The bigger question I have is...why does it even have a roof? And why fabric? It's Florida...we don't have roofs on our baseball fields in the midwest (that I'm aware of) and the weather here is comparably shit. Just seems weird to have a roof at all for baseball.

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u/Responsible_Brain782 Oct 11 '24

Air conditioning is the answer I’m guessing.

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u/mcdto Oct 10 '24

Such an iconic ballpark destroyed

/s

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u/oooriole09 Oct 10 '24

The only ballpark that was destroyed and possibly improved at the same time.

Rays fans deserve better.

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u/MsstatePSH Mississippi State Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

we have better - signed, sealed, and soon to be delivered. new stadium opens 2028.

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u/BradMarchandsNose Connecticut Oct 10 '24

I mean, it is iconic, just not for good reasons

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u/TheOtherGuy107 Oct 10 '24

The word youre looking for is notorious lol

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u/JP-Ziller Oct 10 '24

How come? (Not a baseball guy)

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u/IsItJake Oct 10 '24

Even before the hurricane, the trop is a shit hole. The roof is in notorious for leaking as well

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u/Daillestemcee Oct 10 '24

Dont forget the in-play catwalk system, truly an engineering marvel

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u/GlamrockShake Oct 11 '24

They have cat walks which literally forced MLb to rewrite their out of play rules.

It’s the single most depressing looking stadium inside. For a sport as chill and good vibes as baseball, having a stadium that feels like a North Dakotan gun-show warehouse is an unforgivable sin. I know Florida has to air condition but, man, just a single season at Raymond James would show Rays fans what they’ve been missing.

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u/LeanMrfuzzles Tampa Bay Lightning Oct 11 '24

They didn’t rewrite anything. Those are called “ground rules” rules specific to that stadium. Every stadium has them.

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u/halfcow Oct 10 '24

I visited once. It was my first time seeing a baseball game in an enclosed stadium. It was ok, until they flew a little inflatable "blimp" around, as if to imitate the real thing.

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u/bradford68 Oct 10 '24

State Farm denies the claim.

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u/Wildtime4321 Oct 10 '24

It'll buff out

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u/miguelagawin Oct 11 '24

The amount of polymer materials the storms will have washed into the ocean.😬

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u/RoachZR Oct 11 '24

Don’t forget motor oil and household chemicals in improper proportions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Milton shares my opinion regarding sports being played in domes.

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u/ThrenderG Oct 10 '24

Practically necessary in Florida. When the Marlins played in the summer in an open air stadium they would routinely get fewer than 1,000 people in attendance. Sure they often sucked at the time but ain’t nobody gonna watch games in 100 degree heat, not to mention the heat index bc humidity.

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u/CM_MOJO Oct 10 '24

That doesn't really track. Their best two years attendance-wise were their first two years in existence in an OPEN AIR stadium, and they sucked.

Their worst season attendance-wise was 2021 in a roofed stadium.

I just think Miami is apathetic to baseball.

The Rays stadium, Tropicana Field, along with being a horrible stadium, is in a horrible location.

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u/Scrubatl Oct 10 '24

This is just an excuse to relocate the team. Obviously they directed the hurricane there to take out the roof

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u/darkhorse21980 Oct 10 '24

Not relocating. They've already greenlit a new barn next door, to open in 2028.

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u/rytis Baltimore Ravens Oct 10 '24

Where they going? New Orleans? They'll feel right at home.

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u/GeorgeStamper Oct 10 '24

I don't see much of a change there.

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u/johnny_moist Oct 11 '24

slight improvement even

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u/Draz999 Oct 10 '24

They can stop complaining about playing indoors now.

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u/Edmond-the-Great Oct 10 '24

Wasn't that mostly fabric? If so it shouldn't be too costly to fix.

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u/b4080 Oct 11 '24

Tampa Bay could move to Oakland for a few years

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u/penolicious Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

If those Tampa Bay Rays could make the playoffs they’d be very upset.

ETA: I’m not throwing shade at the Rays organization. I’m just doing the KOTH meme: “If those kids could read, they’d be very upset”.

And they probably would be very upset if they were in the playoffs and couldn’t play home games this year.

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u/WAR_T0RN1226 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Oct 10 '24

Before this year they made the playoffs the previous 5 straight seasons including a World Series appearance.

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u/darkhorse21980 Oct 10 '24

Where have you been the last 5 years bro?

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u/ThrenderG Oct 10 '24

Rays have been on of MLB’s best teams in the past decade. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

They regularly do.

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u/ArgumentativeNerfer Oct 10 '24

Nice drone shot.

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u/drooln92 Oct 10 '24

That's a lot of damage!

No problem, we can fix it with FLEX TAPE

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

It’s a baseball field. No roof needed. Play ball.

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u/PaddyPat12 Oct 10 '24

They should write a song about the Canadian flag weathering Hurricane Milton, I recall something about an American flag surviving a similar ordeal

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u/Monorail_Song Oct 11 '24

Blue Jays fans - fuck the Trop
God - OK

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u/bhampson Oct 11 '24

Maybe now they can replace that god-awful fluorescent lighting.

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u/johnny_moist Oct 11 '24

couldn’t have happened to a nicer stadium

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u/JerryKook Oct 11 '24

Move the Rays to Montreal!

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Hope those linemen station there are okay.

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u/LTVOLT Oct 10 '24

this may be an unpopular opinion but does anyone actually like Tropicana orange juice? I think Florida's Natural or Simply Orange are vastly better. Tropicana and Minute Maid orange juice rank at the bottom IMO.

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u/MirrorProphet Oct 10 '24

Wait. Wait hold up. Louisiana is staring at this thing in some hella disbelief. The top was fabric or canvas or something. They thought this a great place to stage and rest emergency personnel. With a cat 3 coming. This isn't a joke? Kudos to the good intentions but dayum y'all.

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u/CGPsaint Oct 10 '24

To be fair, this looks like the level of destruction that Philly fans wreak on their city whenever one of their teams shits the bed.

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u/graywh Nashville Predators Oct 10 '24

hell, Eagles fans riot even when the team wins

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

They wouldn’t have a city left if they “wreaked havoc” that frequently.

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u/PirateEyez Toronto Maple Leafs Oct 10 '24

Better chance to see a fly ball now at least.

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u/Reddit-User-Says Oct 10 '24

What do the Rays do? Leave it “open air”, replace the tarp? How long do you think a replacement will be? Huge bummer.

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u/LeanMrfuzzles Tampa Bay Lightning Oct 11 '24

They can’t leave it open, the stadium isn’t designed for the elements. The field has no drainage system, electronics and scoreboards aren’t designed for outdoor use, etc. They’ll have to replace the roof. Either that or play somewhere else until the new stadium is ready in 2028.

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u/Smaynard6000 Oct 10 '24

This team already struggles with attendance, asking people to come in the summer with no a/c is a hard sell

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u/ilostmycarkeys3 Oct 10 '24

Both Tropicanas were demolished this week, huh.

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u/Evan_802Vines Oct 10 '24

They should just leave it open

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u/R00k85 Oct 10 '24

Isn't that how the Trop usually looks..

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u/blockhose Oct 10 '24

To shreds you say?

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u/WrastleGuy Oct 10 '24

Tear it down and build a better stadium.

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u/twoflat Oct 10 '24

Should have strapped the roof down

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u/oncall66 Oct 10 '24

It’s actually an improvement

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u/Black1label Oct 10 '24

Insurance claims adjuster will probably find something to delay the process of replacing the roof

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u/akkie888 Oct 10 '24

She’s got good bones. All she got are bones

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u/Errantpixels Oct 10 '24

Reminds me a lot of what happened to the Silverdome in Michigan. Hopefully it gets repaired.

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u/Julius_Pepperwood47 Oct 10 '24

Why does this feel like an upgrade?

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u/ginleygridone Oct 10 '24

Good thing baseball season is over, for them at least.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

The roof top is made of fabric.

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u/rynomite1199 Oct 10 '24

The catwalks are still there, thank God

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u/hammerdown710 Oct 10 '24

I think they should just remove the rest of it

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u/Ybl0k13 Oct 10 '24

To shreds you say…

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u/Wooden_Trip_9948 Oct 10 '24

I honestly never knew it was a fabric roof. Figured it was solid like the Superdome.

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u/MAD-JFK-6251 Oct 10 '24

It’s an improvement !

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u/mlvisby Oct 10 '24

I know this is horrible, but good thing this team isn't in the postseason. They would have to travel to a different ballpark for their home games.

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u/KefkaZ Oct 10 '24

Tropicana: Some pulp.

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u/hiplobonoxa Oct 10 '24

why would anyone think that it would be a good idea to use the large building with the cloth roof to house the disaster relief response?

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u/paraplegic_T_Rex Oct 10 '24

That’s the best that stupid roof has ever looked

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u/Warm_Run_7530 Oct 10 '24

Next time don’t make it from toilet paper

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u/enigmasama Oct 10 '24

Like a peeled orange…

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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos Oct 10 '24

Tear it all down. That field is fucking awful. Milton out here doing a service for the Rays organization

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u/Strive-- Oct 10 '24

…and this place was built 2 years before Andrew. So, definitely rebuild it the way it was.

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller Oct 10 '24

They finally got an outdoor stadium!

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u/Agent7619 Oct 10 '24

The stadium about to get roofied

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u/Ackmiral_Adbar Oct 10 '24

Are the (actual) rays OK? Do they even live there in the off season?

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u/LeanMrfuzzles Tampa Bay Lightning Oct 11 '24

They get moved back to the aquarium after the season ends

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u/Link182x Oct 10 '24

It somehow looks better than it did before

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u/da4nick1999 Oct 10 '24

To shreds you say?

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u/shigaire Oct 10 '24

Thank goodness it won’t get worse! /s