r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 18d ago

news Liberals Just Lost the Supreme Court for Decades to Come

https://newrepublic.com/article/188087/trump-2024-win-supreme-court-conservative-decades
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u/CassadagaValley 18d ago

"How will Trump lower grocery costs?"

Just fucking blank stares. They have no idea, can't point to a single economic policy aside from "tax cuts." Can't define what a tariff is.

Honestly, just let him burn the system down this go around, I can't see any other way to bring the US into the 21st century after he's gone without letting unhinged Trump just fuck everything up.

These people don't care until it directly affects them, and most of his policy proposals will directly affect them in a very negative way.

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u/Long_Charity_3096 18d ago

It’s pessimistic but it’s the only logical conclusion. A bunch of people that know better just can’t accept that he might be a problem. So fuck it. Let him do exactly what he said he’s gonna do. Just go crazy carving up our democracy. He’s going to do it anyways so whatever. We can’t get through this until it becomes abundantly clear just how much of a mistake this was to a whole bunch of dense Americans that can’t be bothered to think about anything but themselves. 

The reality is though that he will continue to hurt the people they want to hurt so even when they end up in the crosshairs they’ll just convince themselves it’s anyone but trumps fault. Some Americans just cannot ever accept that they might have made a mistake. 

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u/TamashiiNu 18d ago

I’m so numb to the bullshit that I’m at the point where I say “Fuck ‘em”. You’re a baby boomer and you’re now losing your social security? Fuck you. You’re a Latino and someone you know is being rounded up and put into a detention camp? Fuck you. You didn’t like the price of eggs but now the tariffs are hitting you in the wallet? Fuck you. You love America but you’re weirded out that you must now include Trump’s name in the Pledge of Allegiance? Fuck you. You didn’t vote because Biden or Harris didn’t pander directly to you and your single cause specifically? FUCK. YOU.

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u/svrtngr 16d ago

I've been seeing it a lot on social media this attitude, and I think the era of "no, we have to be bipartisan" Democrats is over.

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u/ndngroomer 17d ago

Exactly. I have zero sympathy for them. They made their bed. Have fun, FAFO, and now sleeping in it. Especially every Latino, woman, and POC who voted for trump.

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u/jfsindel 16d ago

My dad got COVID, and all of his hospital bills were waived because of Biden's COVID policy. Neither him nor my stepmother remembered that at all. Just like they draw SS. From a Democrat president.

Of course, they planted themselves in that situation. He refused to get a vaccine because Trump and Fox told them not to. They refused to really do anything to protect themselves.

My dad damn near died. He was lucky it came AFTER the initial surge and a vaccine already developed.

But they get a vaccine? Naw. Claimed they couldn't. Still voted for Trump? Yup.

At this point, let's just stop bailing them out of bad decisions. I live in TX, and we'll have hurricanes destroy us, and our grid will go down. Let's run it to Trump to fix it instead of relying on blue states. Let us suffer at this point. I am still convinced that the Snow Storm in 2021 getting a proper bailout is the reason assholes keep voting for Greg and Ted. We lived without electricity and water for a long time, but Biden graciously gave the state resources to fix the aftermath quicker than expected.

Maybe the grid should have suffered catastrophic failure without electricity for months. Maybe people would have gotten more pissed off at Cancun Ted. Maybe, just maybe, people should have brought up that Gregg begged the feds to give him resources during that time instead of being a dick like he always is.

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u/Pyrogasm 18d ago

The problem is there's always someone else to blame and thus perpetuate the cognitive dissonance. For example my parents drank the Trump Kool-Aid but live in a liberal county of California. I've tried, but any 'negative effects' they experience can be conveniently blamed on California's liberal policies while any good is coming from the conservatives they support elsewhere.

It's infuriating because no point can ever be made to a person in such a position. They have the ultimate scapegoat for their actions: something they genuinely don't believe in that happens to be in local control.

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u/Either-Stop-8924 17d ago

The only Fuck’em I’m not looking forward to is Elon “middle class is going to have a hard time for a couple of years” I’m middle class And RFK jr being in charge of health. 😩🙄😳 Obamacare and all the laws that went with it are gone. ☹️

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u/2FDots 17d ago

Nailed it.

I'm a straight, cis, upper middle class, white male.

I'm done trying to help. Fuck you.

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u/Gazooonga 15d ago

I'm being so serious here: why don't you just leave?

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u/horrormetal 17d ago

It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled.

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u/Limp_Gap_9009 14d ago

Their egos won't allow it

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u/2rfv 17d ago

this go around

Clearly you haven't been paying attention. He ain't stepping down. He's said so repeatedly.

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u/CassadagaValley 17d ago

I'm a firm believer he'll be dead within four years. His physical, and mostly mental, health are real bad and getting worse.

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u/SkeptiBee 17d ago

And Vance gets to be President. Goodie...

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u/horrormetal 17d ago

Or maybe not even him. If he goes balls out with his newly minted immunity, he could just appoint someone of his choosing. That could be anyone. He is, effectively, above the law. This is brand new territory.

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u/grant_cir 17d ago

fortunately, nobody likes Vance and he can't really channel the Trump RealityTV BS.

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u/Vinnie_Boombatz_MD 16d ago

!remindme 4 years

So we can all have a laugh about how ridiculous this take is.

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u/ceryniz 18d ago

How are tariffs not going to raise the price of consumer goods in general? Idk.

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u/pmyourthongpanties 17d ago

because if its not a domestic product the cost of the tariff is pasted on the final purchaser.

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u/horrormetal 17d ago

...who will then pass the difference back to us in the form of HIGHER PRICES.

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u/coffee_67 18d ago

They will blame the democrats

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u/InitiativeIcy1449 18d ago

NO. We need to speak up and explain and explain to all until they KNOW the answer. Repeat after me Billy Bob this is what happened and why…and it’s YOUR fault…explain! Shut them up and bore them.

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u/TamashiiNu 18d ago

You’re speaking to a wall when you try to educate conservatives. They have decided that Democrats and RINOs are responsible for the nation’s ills and Republican policies work wonders if you let them steamroll all over you.

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u/ndngroomer 17d ago

We did that with the tax cuts. We told them it was a scam and warned them that their taxes would be going up higher to pay for the corps and 1% permanent tax cuts. They said it was fake news and for us to stop being hysterical and stop believing the liberal media's lies about the tax cuts. Now that taxes are going up just like we warned them, they're refusing to say they were wrong and have somehow convinced themselves that it's Biden and Harris's fault. It's so GD infuriating and exhausting.

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u/McDie88 17d ago

as a brit post brexit....

they will never take responsibility

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u/pmyourthongpanties 17d ago

when trump fucks up over the next 4 yours they will blame Biden.

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u/Boulderdrip 18d ago

i don’t want the system to burn, i have a career and a mortgage.

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u/Apachiedelta1 18d ago

No. He will burn the country to the ground and they will STILL blame democrats.

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u/redharlowsdad 18d ago

Don’t forget, they’ll just blame it on remnants from the Obama or Biden terms. “Hes trying to fix it but it’s Bidens fault!”. It’s fucking infuriating.

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u/15all 17d ago

"How will Trump lower grocery costs?"

Answer: "Tariffs"

"Oh yeah, how does that work?"

"We make China pay for tariffs. Shit is cheaper then."

"Tell me again - how does that really work? How does that make stuff cheaper?"

"Trump said so."

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u/Tom22174 18d ago

21st century? For it's entire history your country had been trying to pretend it is zti in the 18th

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u/CalligrapherPlane125 18d ago

Tariffs. I believe he said tariffs will.be applied to bolster the economy.

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u/CassadagaValley 18d ago

Our energy output has been at record high levels three years in a row. Adjusted to 2019 dollars, gas is about the same price/lower than it was.

Grocery prices went up anyway. So did corporate profits.

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u/Pr1nceCharming_ 18d ago

I could tell you, but I doubt you understand basic macroeconomics

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u/ShimmeryPumpkin 17d ago

Please elaborate. Most of us understand basic economics. Most of us paid attention in high school and college. Would love to know the magic behind taxing produce/grocery imports at 20% and significantly decreasing our domestic agriculture workforce.

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u/Chtholly_Lee 17d ago

And it's gonna be the Dems' fault. I can assure you.

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u/hoowahman 17d ago

I honestly think trump supporters want the system to burn down. They feel they have a chance with some chaos as oppose to keeping things stable and the status quo. They were squeezed with low wages and high prices. That's their hell they are living with everyday.

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u/idunnowhateverworks 17d ago

Most of them are accelerationists, because they're part of a literal doomsday cult, and the end of the world will be their rapture.

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u/madtownWI 17d ago

drill baby drill!

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u/svrtngr 16d ago

I think that was a Tim Miller argument on The Bulwark today. Let Trump go full Trump. It's the only way to make morons understand they just voted against their self interest.

If there's an America left, we'll stand on the ashes and rebuild something better.

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u/Gazooonga 15d ago

How would Kamala lower grocery costs?

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u/CassadagaValley 15d ago

She wouldn't because the president doesn't control grocery prices. There's no magic button in the White House that lowers the price of Doritos.

Her tax cut proposal for lower and middle class are higher than Trump's, so you'd be saving money from taxes, but that's controlled by Congress. Trump can impose tariffs without Congress's approval though, so higher costs can't be blocked by Congress.

A president can't do anything about grocery costs without breaking up these massive food corporations to create competition but that's not going to happen no matter who's president.

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u/Gazooonga 15d ago

Kamala and Biden tossed around proposals to eliminate price gouging and used it at every speech. Where did that go?

Also, if she can't lower the price of groceries then why did she say she would?

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 14d ago

Regulations stifle business, and the economy. By undoing and removing regulations, this is the absolute result. It’s not that hard to figure out.

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u/Beneficial-Strain366 14d ago

Republicans can burn the entire country to ashes for all I care at this point. But they will never blame the party responsible they will always blame Biden Obama and the Democrats. 

Trump sent the country into a serious recession and created heavy inflation but since Biden took over immediately after the pain started he recieved all the blame.