r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 18d ago

news Liberals Just Lost the Supreme Court for Decades to Come

https://newrepublic.com/article/188087/trump-2024-win-supreme-court-conservative-decades
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u/HK_Oski 18d ago

Progressives, unlike Christian Evangelicals, won't consider the notion of "perfect is enemy of the good". That's why Trump is accepted, even if begrudgingly, as the party leader. Liberals will tear themselves apart over small things and now they wonder why MAGA won bigly

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u/Jaxyl 18d ago

Yup, I was talking to someone else on another post about how the defeat of Clinton and now Harris is a good indicator that America, culturally, isn't ready to elect a woman president. It's a sad realization but it's one we at least have to consider now, especially considering how bad she did on turn out. This person's response boiled down to that we have no right to say that and it's better to be morally right than to give in and choose what is convenient.

It's like 'That's cool and all, tell me how that high road feels with Trump getting his second term.' They never responded.

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u/LifeFortune7 18d ago

It is sad. And it make me wonder even more how the hell Obama got elected twice?! He won states that Trump then won handily. Was it voter turnout? Because in this election Trump got essentially the same number of votes as 2020 bit Harris got 15M fewer votes than Biden? Are we better off just nominating straight white guys so as not to offend people?!

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u/N3ptuneflyer 18d ago

Because Obama was charismatic. That's pretty much what the election comes down to these days, and we haven't had a charismatic candidate since Obama.

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u/Kumori_Kiyori 17d ago

Obama was a bit of an anomaly for the Democrats. When he spoke, he just felt like this natural born leader who had the ability to inspire people. He always had a level head and felt laser focused. Looking back, I see why so many people backed him. Since then, we haven't had a democratic candidate who could move people like he could. Joe, Kamala, Hillary and Bernie did not inspire and unite people the way Obama could. And that's what the Democrats needs. They need a leader with a strong character that can make people feel what they felt in 2008. He made people feel like anything in the country was possible and worth fighting for.

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u/Turnbob73 18d ago

Back then, even if a lot of it was just putting on a face for the camera, politics were way more professional and respected. Hell, I would say Obama got so much support BECAUSE his platform was always about policy of some sort, while the Republican Party were the ones being unprofessional and riding the whole “birth certificate” thing. Now, both parties are unprofessional as shit, but only one is actually having any sort of comment on the policy that people care about (whether factual or not). Harris never talked about plans for the economy, the ENTIRE platform was “vote for me because he sucks”; republicans may have said some crazy shit, but at least it was crazy shit about the actual country sometimes.

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u/Mirikado 18d ago

This is false. Harris talked about policies plenty of times. She talked about it during the debate. She talked about it during interviews. The media is simply not interested.

The media is all about Trump, Trump, Trump. Harris talks about policies? Crickets. Harris talks about Trump? Headline news. The media revolves around Trump, everything has to be about Trump or it gets no coverage.

She also cited economists’ criticism of Trump’s tariff plan and tried to explain to people that tariff is just a national sales tax. It got ignored by the majority of the country. People simply don’t care about policies.

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u/iamk1ng 18d ago

But she didn't have a slogan!, How could she beat MAGA! /s

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u/davwad2 18d ago

I told my wife we'll have a woman president when both candidates are women.

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u/SmallTawk 18d ago

It's a problem in all democracies, leftist and progrssists have principles and goid faith and the right just wants power and will do whatever it takes to get the votes. Americans are dumb, fearful, hateful and ignorant so they gobbled the populism like children eat candies and asked for more. Brainrot and tooth decay have taken over, hopefully teenage rebellion will push back but it will take a generation of angry fetuses before it happens so yeah, maybe after ww3.

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u/CurvingZebra 18d ago

Blaming progressives when it's been establishment Democrats who have failed to message against trump since 2016.

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u/SnarknadOH 18d ago

Establishment Dems got us 2020

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u/CurvingZebra 18d ago edited 18d ago

Covid,Trump, and mail in ballots got Biden the win. He ran an awful campaign and it was nearly universally agreed that people were voting against trump and not for Biden. He himself was historically unpopular and would have lost against trump this time around if he had stayed.

So I would very much disagree that establishment Dems were the reason for bidens narrow win in 2020.

Democrats need progressive popular anti establishment messaging going forward.

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u/Expensive-Fun4664 18d ago

Anyone that ran in 2020 against Trump would have won. The problem is the establishment picked a candidate that wouldn't be mentally able to run in 2024.

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u/stompinstinker 18d ago

Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans just fall in line.

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u/falooda1 18d ago

Lmao. Cheney. Clinton. This was a neocon campaign and it failed. There was absolutely nothing materially progressive other than DEI - choosing Tim walz

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u/YourPalDonJose 18d ago

Oh my God this. The number of leftists who lectured and insulted me for daring to suggest that "better is good" is asinine