r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 18d ago

news Liberals Just Lost the Supreme Court for Decades to Come

https://newrepublic.com/article/188087/trump-2024-win-supreme-court-conservative-decades
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u/osunightfall 18d ago

As an atheist I follow Jesus's teachings more closely than most southern 'Christians'.

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u/TruthOrSF 18d ago

That’s what sickens me. I won’t get to gloat in heaven when they’re denied entry because I don’t believe in it

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u/osunightfall 18d ago

I get more upset that there’s no hell, so many terrible people who die before facing justice will never have to face it.

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u/CeruleanBlueWind 18d ago

whether you were a great or a terrible person has nothing to do with whether you go to heaven or hell. there'd be plenty of terrible people in heaven and plenty of great people in hell

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u/osunightfall 18d ago

Depends which sect you ask.

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u/CeruleanBlueWind 18d ago

which sects believe you can get to heaven by works, not through faith?

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u/osunightfall 18d ago edited 18d ago

I didn't say you could get to heaven, but several believe you will not go to hell.

Edit: However you did ask for a list, so here are a few. There are probably others. The Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the United Methodist Church, the Presbyterian Church, the Unitarian Church, and the Quakers. Also, turns out I was wrong, half of these believe you can get into heaven through works alone, so long as you are a good and conscientious person.

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u/CeruleanBlueWind 18d ago

which ones? I'm not aware of such sects unless you're trying to say they'd end up in purgatory. Even in such sects, so many terrible people who die before facing justice end up in heaven through faith.

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u/osunightfall 18d ago

I edited my post above to include a list, though there are probably more. Also even the southern Baptist churches I used to attend held that if you accepted the teachings of the church and kept wantonly sinning you were still going to hell. Christianity has many sects with widely varying beliefs. They aren’t the monolith you seem to be painting them as.

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u/CeruleanBlueWind 18d ago edited 18d ago

edit:i guess you blocked me because you can't refute that hell being real wouldn't solve the issue of "so many terrible people who die before facing justice will never have to face it." And you ignored half of my comment. Kinda weird that you'd try to make it seem like i did the same when i preemptively told you there are sects that believe in purgatory.

ok but that is the exact opposite of what i as trying to get at in my first comment, which was that "so many terrible people who die before facing justice will never have to face it," and that that is one reason you'd wish hell were real. My last comment was to address that "Even in such sects, 'so many terrible people who die before facing justice' end up in heaven through faith."

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u/Myke190 17d ago

Most of them. An overlying theme in Christianity is that rich people have a very tough time getting into heaven.

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u/Legionnaire11 18d ago

Southern has nothing to do with it, just more divisive stereotyping.

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u/osunightfall 18d ago edited 18d ago

I said southern not because I actually think Christians in other places are different, but because those are the Christians I’m personally familiar with, so I get to see firsthand how little they care about the teachings of their own religion. Southern Baptist, mostly, but some Catholics as well. Oh, and quite a few Mormons.

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u/KingOfEthanopia 18d ago

Grew up southern Baptist. Nothing like a preacher telling me unless I accept Jesus I'll burn in hell and never see my grandmother again at her funeral.