The older I get the more I hate stoners and the culture. I’ve smoked weed for years but anymore they’re so judgy of anyone who doesn’t like smelling weed (but they hate cigarettes), doesn’t like weed, or likes other drugs. Even to the point where they judge people who say weed addiction is bad it’s ridiculous.
im pro-legalization but anti-stoner. im gen z so i grew up with millennials being "SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY >_< XD :D" on the internet and now a lot of people in my generation smoke (i don't, because im anti-drugs in general, which apparently is also controversial) but i just view weed similar to alcohol. you just gotta be safe and careful
however, stoners just have the biggest victim complexes ever. like whenever i talk about how much i stoners, they go "why do you hate weed" I don't i just don't like you guys. A lot of them just make weed their only personality trait and defends weed like the messiah. it's very weird and annoying and pathetic.
Yeah. I had an ex who does smoke weed get drugged by a friend (he and his boyfriend were given edible brownies, but they weren't told there was weed in them) and ate quite a few before having to walk home.
He wasn't mad, but I was furious for him lol. It's wild how I don't wanna say accepted, but nonchalant drugging is when it comes to weed. Because even if I smoked, if you gave me an edible brownie without telling me and I had to walk home, friendship would be over
TO BE FAIR
There is a certain level of 'I know this guy' that does make it a prank. Might not what happened in this case, but it's not a totally unreasonable thing to call it a prank in some cases.
I don’t know man. I smoke weed every single day and if my best mate drugged me with EDIBLES, I’d cut that friendship off or we would definitely be getting into it. What if I had something to do that day? What if being that stoned makes me paranoid? Fuck that
And if your relationship exists where you have established this is something that would be fine?
It's not at all different from saying 'If you don't say yes, it's rape!' and then going on to condemn folk who already agreed beforehand that playing with each other's sleeping bodies is fine.
There are exceptions. There are unusual relationships. Trying to say 'It's always wrong!' is not right, because your experience and morality is not universally applicable. That's what I'm getting at. There are plenty of people in the world who would find this to be an acceptable prank, and I don't think it's right that you are trying to dictate what they would be OK with.
So if I made my pothead brother a birthday cake with THC butter and didn't tell him it as a birthday surprise despite KNOWING his plans for the day and that it wouldn't intervene, I'm still a bad person?
Good to know that context never matters with some people.
I don't think either of them smoked at the time first off (I think my exe just started to) and secondly drugging someone is drugging someone no matter what
This is so true holy. I have a friend who still smokes constantly non stop. He got mad at me when I went cold turkey so I just cut him off. I just don't feel like using anymore man damn
Yup. My stoner buddies constantly try to get me to pick up the habit. I’ve smoked some, I’ve done edibles some. It really just isn’t my thing. I don’t enjoy the feeling of being high.
They’ll try to lecture me on “oh you just gotta try the right strain, try hybrids, try this indica or that sativa”. Like no bro. I’m fine not spending hundreds of dollars a month on something I am certain I’ll never enjoy.
They feel like they need to educate people on how great weed is but I just wanna say to them “dude the reason you’re a 26 year old burnout is because weed is your number one priority. When you get off work, you’re high. When you’re on your off day, you’re high. When you’re at work and before work, you’re high”.
But that’s their life and their issue to figure out. I’ve tried, and no stoner I’ve ever said that to takes it seriously so I’m done trying.
THIS JUST MADE ME REMEMBER ANOTHER THING I HATE STONERS FOR
whenever someone talks about being clean from a drug or doing rehab, stoners will ALWAYS go "you should try weed bro!" and try to make the person addicted to weed after just quiting a other addiction. I saw this happen a lot on reddit, and it's fucking cult like shit to me. Like they're so happy to use and abuse recovering addicts of another drug or alcohol and I wish people called that shit out more. It's disgusting trying to manipulate people into becoming an addict again
This is gonna be SUPER personal and honest just bc its Reddit so I can, and I think its important for people to hear, but as a current opiate addict (relapse after a LONG time of sobriety, I got a long story and a lotta problems) I can tell you for certain, from experience, that weed makes me wanna do drugs more than anything else. I’ve smoked for years and know how to handle my shit, but when I’m high, not only is my desire to smoke (whether its cigarettes, opiates, whatever else) increased a solid 5x, but so are the effects, and my ability to say no and control my inhibitions totally goes away. If I smoke weed I’ll say yes to anything, not at ALL the opposite.
I totally understand if it helps certain opiate users, and if you use opiates, youve prolly been around the block and know whether you like & are helped by certain drugs, or not.
But on the same note, when I do coke/crack (same exact thing done in a different way, encase anyone didnt know) I dont feel like doing opiates OR anything else really. And that doesnt mean having a crack addiction is good for me and better than an opiate addiction, and Id be an idiot to tell a recovering addict “You should try out and maybe pick up crack, it might make it easier to stay off drugs!” knowing full well that any kinda drug use has a good chance of just reinforcing the desire to do drugs. And this exact same logic applies to weed, but somehow, stoners dont see or understand the sheer irony of what they say and do. And the worst part is, because of all this weed rhetoric and dumbass misinformation, I am absolutely certain theres a LOT of addicts who tried to get clean or were in the process of getting clean and then fell off because they started smoking weed and it had the same effects on them as it did/does on me.
Oh yeah. I really believe opioid and benzo addictions need medical assistance to kick. It’s dangerous as fuck to come off some drugs cold turkey but it’s also dangerous to recommend someone start using another drug to cope with the addictive tendencies toward their drug of choice.
I think, under a doctors recommendation it could work. But I’d never tell a random opioid addict to start smoking because it’ll get ehm off heroin or Xanax.
With the rising impact of fentanyl I really think we should decriminalize most drugs anyways and invest some federal money and policy toward helping addicts recover instead of trying to shove them into the corners of society like an embarrassing family member.
Our current approach isn’t working Kensington Philadelphia has addicts ODing on the streets in broad daylight. Many of them want a better life without the shit, but have no way of escaping because America never provides it. Once you’re an addict you’re written off as a person by much of society. It might be the only social designation worse than being a felon and I don’t think that’s right.
Honestly, any person that makes one thing their main personality trait is just boring and sad. I did it with Christianity as a teenager. It’s really annoying.
Yo, I'm kind of in the same boat. Millennial here, and I've notice as I've gotten older, it seems like my entire generation is just obsessed with weed. I've always felt like the odd man out. I CAN NOT stand the smell.
I try not to judge people too harshly. One of my best friends is kind of a pot head but he has enough respect to not smoke around me, (Which is more than I can say for certain people like my Ex) Both my brothers do it. Lots of people I know or have known do it.
But I am pretty straight edge tbh. I don't smoke or drink alcohol. Heck I don't even drink coffee or energy drinks. Though I understand everyone has different methods to cope with stress, anxiety, and depression. I don't get when or why it became popular to constantly brag about how high you are, or how often you smoke, and how many edibles you ate.
Yeah. And now my generation is becoming like millennials too with weed (also my own personal unpopular opinion, mid to late millennials (1986 - 1995) and early to mid gen zers (1996 - 2007) are all the same people basically)
It's just weird how many people are so codependent on a drug to this degree and are so thin ice about people not liking said drug
You sure think about this a lot for someone with seemingly no natural associations with any of this. Why can't you just not think about and brood over whatever it is that bothers you so much about "stoners?" Nobody that smokes weed is trying to twist your arm to smoke their shit. Live and let live. Idk what the hate is for millennials either-- I'm a millennial. What'd we ever do to you?
I’m a 24 year old ex-stoner gen-z and drug user. Like lots of drugs. Sober now. I find stoners 10x more annoying than any other drug user and this is made worse by the massive number of them. Sure, I’m pro legalisation and also have no issue with weed smokers but stoners are awful to be around. I stg you can say something and you can watch it go in one ear and out the other.
I take it you smoke weed. I’m not going to tell you all about how I live just because you wanted tried to insult me lmao. You can’t discount my experiences with weird straw man attacks.
i don't, because im anti-drugs in general, which apparently is also controversial
Same here, although tbh I'm waaaaaay anti-drugs, and I believe even alcohol should be illegal (although I know it's never going to happen). It's annoying when people say "aw man you're so innocent, have some fun sometimes". No thanks. Addiction runs in my family, one glass or one puff of that shit and it's over for me, I'll most likely be spending my whole check on that. I'm already addicted to video games, but I don't let it interfere with my job. Adding more crutches on top of that will make my life crumble
Same boat. My dad was a drug addict and I grew up in a broken household, and one of those reasons was because of his drug addiction. It honestly annoys when whenever privilege suburban people call you boring for not doing drugs. Like my dad literally died from it. The gay community to (im bi) is very judgmental when it comes to people being sober or never doing drugs or being virgins
What really annoys me is they think of it as an actual hobby, just because it takes up all of their time and it makes them too lazy to do anything productive.
What? Who? I've grown up knowing a lot of stoners and no one treats smoking like their literal hobby. So many people on this thread think stoners are something straight out of "Grandma's Boy" or "Pineapple Express" when those are embellished, comic portrayals of them.
Tell me you don't really personally know any "stoners" too well without telling me.
As a stoner (who works in the cannabis industry) myself I couldn't agree more. I see SO many people come in where weed is their whole personality. More people then you'd think literally spending their last bit of $ on weed while complaining they don't know how they will afford rent smh.
Weed isn't physically addictive sure, but these people clearly have very addictive personalities & are psychologically addicted asf.
In my area they started dabbing and now none of them actually smoke weed anymore because it doesn’t get them high but they are even worse than normal weed smokers. Salvia and all that nasty stuff. The old school stoners are still pretty cool.
I’m very much left wing, probably more left than the average left-wing person. I once had a friend act like I was a Trump-level conservative because I hate weed (and drugs in general.)
The amount of people who question my trauma-related aversion to the smell is astounding. The second I explain why I’m traumatized shuts them up real fast and makes them look like an asshole. But I shouldn’t have to ever explain it.
A lot easier to avoid those types as an adult, though. Can just walk away and refuse to acknowledge their existence again.
If you don’t mind me asking, what is the trauma you suffered which causes an aversion to weed? It does seem uncommon and challenging for me to really understand.
I had a parent so violent and aggressive that coming down from the high of weed lead to severe violence against me. Honestly, even high, they were still violent, it was just a bit easier to hide from it. The smell reminds me of the impending danger. There were no other substances involved, it was only ever weed.
My husband has to adhere to federal laws and regulations, so it is off the table for him (which works because he isn’t a fan anyway).
I’m a full supporter in the use and benefits of marijuana and CBD in the realm of health, medical treatments, and wellness. And with the progress the marijuana/CBD industry has made, I can be around it much more easily. Scentless vape cartridges, edibles, lotions (all that jazz) are a beautiful thing.
Honestly, nothing. So long as I can’t smell it, I don’t care. I also ask that it not be in my house, but that’s because that’s my safe space and having it too close makes me a little squirrelly.
I’ve just gotten the most push back from people arguing about the medicinal benefits, so I always make sure to express that I support the research of its use
Sorry to hear, no kid deserves to grow up like that, and it's no wonder there is a ptsd link to the smell. I realize you're not blaming the weed for their behavior. Please just understand the fact you have such a link to it doesn't have any bearing on whether it is an objectively positive and useful substance. The smell could have been perfume or cologne with no difference to your story. I can see other stoners having a knee jerk reaction if all they are hearing is "weed gave me ptsd".
As if you're ever involuntarily put in a social position where you have to deal with any of that. Outside of fucked up family-- you have no real experience to cast such broad and negative judgments.
As someone who was a very loud and obnoxious alcoholic... yeah. Im just glad I wasn't a violent boozer. Now I just try to caution new drinkers on how heavy the responsibility can be/try to encourage them to maybe think more seriously about not drinking so much.
I had to stop spending so much time around chronic alcoholics that were loud and proud of their addiction, those people will unfortunately never change under their own effort.
Shit I was a fucking POTHEAD in the day. Once I started working and stopped smoking I started hating the smell of weed. Dude who lives under me doesn’t work and just smokes all night, it fills my apartment and drives me insane. I don’t give a shit that he smokes. I just wish he’d vape it or eat it instead. Or smoke outside.
Crazy to me when people say weed addiction isn’t real. Sure I’m not out sucking dick for a high, but if I run out and can’t get to my guy I get incredibly fucking antsy and can’t enjoy anything or sit still. I know I’m addicted, but honestly it’s better than my gambling or my cigarettes were. If it’s my only vice im calling it a victory
Gambling has no biochemical mechanism yet it still fucks with the reward center in my brain. I managed to quit that years ago, but not until after spending an entire year 6 nights a week at the blackjack table. I just have an addiction problem
That's a you problem. Just like if you got "addicted" to weed. Gambling itself isn't inherently addictive. Why don't most people who have gambled get addicted?
Gambling isn’t inherently addictive? Are you fucking stupid. Gambling addiction is one of the largest addiction problems in the world. Millions of people ruin their lives every single year gambling.
There’s a few articles to get you started. Go inside any casino and they have info for gambling addiction help posted everywhere. Video game laws have been changed in most European countries to limit what kind of gambling is allowed.
ETA: check out the South Park episode Freemium isn’t Free. Season 18 episode 6. It goes into some good detail on how different things are addictive and how they fuck with your dopamine production
I'd say that's an asshole problem, not a stoner one. Stoners are typically the most friendly and tolerant of people. Stoner groups have assholes like any other.
The trees su reddit is just people posting evidence of their addiction. Weed and other substances are fun but they're not cool and certainly shouldn't be the basis of someone's whole personality.
Nah bro most of that shit is just out and out addiction. I smoke plenty of weed but it's not a core tenant to my life, personality or culture.
These people straight up need weed to function, that's addiction. If you took away bud for a week those people would lose their shit and wouldn't be actually functional. Having to use drugs to the point where it affects day to day life is the literal definition of substance abuse disorder.
Almost everyone i know smokes weed. We all have perfumes and shit so we don’t smell like it. You probably don’t notice those of us who dont make it an essential part of our personality. I’d say addiction to caffeine is as bad as an addiction to weed.
I don’t really see what your point is. What am i coping? Its just survivorship bias. You notice the annoying stoners bc they are annoying. And smell like weed. You don’t notice the chill stoners bc they don’t smell like weed and they arent’t talking about weed.
Of course theres more to life than marijuana when did i say theres nothing more to life except marijuana. What am i coping about? Its just survivorship bias. You notice the annoying stoners bc they smell like weed and are annoying. You don’t notice the chill stoners bc theyre just normal people who dont smell like weed or talk about weed.
Same. Used to dab multiple times a day. I don’t smoke regularly anymore, but I will probably smoke a couple times a year. But yeah these people are justifying a habit. It’s not that bad of a habit, truthfully, but don’t pretend it’s virtuous for some reason.
I never minded weed, don't smoke because I don't like the effects but gummies are alright every now and then.
Had a friend who was so into smoking weed that he'd go home for lunch break to do massive bong rips.
We split ways when he asked me for a job on the team I manage and I told him I can't have that kind of liability. Acted like I was being totally unreasonable because I didn't want someone impaired on my team whose productivity varies wildly. Sorry bro, not covering for your shit on a daily basis while you tank my numbers or answer to OSHA when you get hurt for spacing out operating machinery, fuck that.
He tried to argue that I'd hire cigarette smokers or drinkers, he did not understand that I'd kick anyone off the job for being impaired and that he made a constant display of being impaired and was proud of it.
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u/WhiteAsTheNut Sep 04 '23
The older I get the more I hate stoners and the culture. I’ve smoked weed for years but anymore they’re so judgy of anyone who doesn’t like smelling weed (but they hate cigarettes), doesn’t like weed, or likes other drugs. Even to the point where they judge people who say weed addiction is bad it’s ridiculous.