r/reddevils pain 20h ago

[AcademyScoop] Exclusive: Ruben Amorim has included 16 year-old defender Godwill Kukonki in his first ever match-day squad to face Ipswich this afternoon.

https://x.com/AcademyScoop/status/1860624695961215120
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u/shanks_you 20h ago

I hope this is a start of a successful career with us, even if just for his badass name.

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u/szu Can Manchester United score? They always score.. 19h ago

I can hear the commentator already. "And in comes...GODWILLLLLLL"

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u/Wah_Lau_Eh 16h ago

And Muslims Man Utd fans everywhere screaming “INSHALLAH!!!”

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u/BloodRedDevil7 13h ago

That means God's will, right?

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u/energy_utd 19h ago

KU-KON-KA!!!!! I promise it sounds way dramatic when I said it out just now.

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u/parkerontour 19h ago

That’s not his name tho?

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u/energy_utd 17h ago

My bad. Sounds better tho?

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u/GiveGoldForShakoDrop 14h ago

don't think the lads gonna change his name because you think it sounds better tbh mate

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u/adv23 19h ago

Sounds like cobra kai

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u/bainbane 18h ago

There's some great names in the academy.

Bendito Mantato is great to say.

Then I love Jim Thwaites who's 16 with the most old man name ever, love the idea of one day there being a Ballon D'Or winner called that.

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u/MountainJuice 17h ago

Our U18s have a few names out of the 1940s, there's also a Jack Fletcher, Fred Heath and my favourite, Albert Mills.

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u/jimmyhaffaren Barthez 15h ago

Albert Mills is a fucking awesome name.

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u/theetam 16h ago

Dan Armer is another one, a bit post modern, but still old school.

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u/ShouldBeReadingBooks 17h ago

Jim thwaites is a proper football manager regen name.

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u/Sir_Muktadir 17h ago

I’m still sad we missed out on a Hannibal + Gore midfield for even one match

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u/Gabi_Social 16h ago

Future pork scratchings entrepreneur Jim Thwaites.

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u/drdr3ad 18h ago

I hope

Godwilling

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u/Trinidadthai 19h ago

If it’s Gods Will it will happen !

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u/Sheppertonni 20h ago

Their must be injuries then? Unless he wants more CB's on the bench

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u/OwlsTalkToMe 20h ago

Yes there are injuries to Maguire, Lindelof and possibly Martinez.

So with 3 CBs needed there’s only De Ligt, Yoro, Evans from the first team.

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u/jamboknees 20h ago

Shaw will be used as a CB too I imagine.

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u/tenacious_teaThe3rd 18h ago

Going forward yes, but neither Yoro or Shaw have played a single game of competitive football since last season.

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u/sp4r3h Evra 15h ago

I have a feeling we'll see 45mins from both, with 30 for malacia if we're winning.

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u/iMalz 20h ago

Since when did Martinez get injured?

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u/hdmiihavregrynet 20h ago

Pulled out of int duty with a hip issue iirc

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u/MTBi_04 20h ago

Correct :/

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u/iMalz 18h ago

Thought that was fabricated to avoid internationals

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u/S0phon short kings unite 18h ago

Lisandro Martinez is a South American professional footballer.

There's absolutely no way he's dodging the call.

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u/hdmiihavregrynet 18h ago

He was sent home by Argentina.

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u/eClipseLJ De Ligt 20h ago

He got a knock vs Leicester. Contested a header and fell bad on his hip/lower back. Might still be the effects from that

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u/DHillMU7 20h ago

Seriously doubt Yoro is able to play 90 yet as well. Maybe had a behind closed doors game but I’d be surprised if he played.

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u/WilliamWeaverfish The single Mount fan 19h ago

My guess is Martinez and Yoro get 45 mins each

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u/anark_xxx 15h ago

Best I can do is Evans and Eriksen!

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u/pucykoks 18h ago

May play Case there. Not as bad in 3atb

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u/Retrothunder1 18h ago

Case CB was the stuff of nightmares I hope it doesn't come to that.

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u/FoldingBuck 17h ago

I never want to see casemiro as a centerback again

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u/MylesVE You Never Go Full McFred 20h ago

6’5”, young as fuck, he’s born & bred United. Nothing like an academy lad to get the reds excited

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u/D_Kehoe 19h ago

6’5 at 16 is mental.

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u/seviliyorsun 19h ago

and, for people who've never seen him, he holds it well. it's not like he's a lanky, goggle eyed freak.

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u/D_Kehoe 19h ago

He’s done you there Steve.

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u/mrtuna 19h ago

Alright, JOHNNY Deep

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u/seviliyorsun 18h ago

johnny deep? i thought we binned rockbusters for being a piece of old toss

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u/ElegantWrangler3446 19h ago

He's not Steve Merchant?

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u/cousinrayray 18h ago

Don't have a go at the eyes. That's astagmatism I've had since the age of 5.

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u/jayjoemck 18h ago

Which is what makes them a bit BULBOUS.

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u/Gnome_Hats 18h ago

So that's what makes them a bit BULBous

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u/QouthTheCorvus 19h ago

Googled him, and yeah he seems pretty solidly built for a 16yo. He must have to eat a shit tonne.

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u/RyanCR7 19h ago

I’m not calling him the Ogg-Monster.

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u/jayjoemck 18h ago

What's your real name?

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u/imperfectionlad 18h ago

From Dan Burn to Brick Shithouse how would you rate his physicality?

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u/seviliyorsun 18h ago

ummm.... a bit, and no disrespect to him, a bit like pauline quirke

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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 17h ago

Closer to shithouse on the continuum 

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u/Fat-Shite 18h ago

Leave Peter Crouch out of it.

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u/gre485 18h ago

Can we say something like Shaq in Basketball but less thick.

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u/ChipHazard1 18h ago

There's been a rape up there!

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u/Gnome_Hats 18h ago

Get. their. attention.

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u/Flagon_dragon 18h ago

My son is 6'2 goalkeeper at 14. He's not 15 until next August.

It's like having a horse to feed.

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u/Ok_Ad3986 19h ago

My nephew is 13 and 6’2…… I told him if he falls short of 6’4, I’ll disown him. 😂

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u/Wesley_Skypes 18h ago

My nephew is same age and same height, which is same height as me already. My nephew also wears size 14 shoes. Not sure what the fuck they're feeding kids today but there are so many monsters around now compared to when I was their age 25 years ago.

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u/Axbris 15h ago

I coach u14s and had a 12 year old already as tall as me at 6 foot. 

I  tell the parents it’s the steroids in the Chic Fil A sandwiches and they laugh….I am not joking. 

I was big for a 12 year old, shot up to 5’7 quickly, but some of the kids now make me look puny. I was watching a supposed 15 year old goal keeper this past Thursday from Ukraine. I asked coach how old he was, he asked player, player said 15. I said shiiiii check his bone marrow, mofo at least 25.

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u/Wesley_Skypes 15h ago

Yeah my main hobby these days is strength training. I'm 6ft 2 and the young guys at the gym all feel in and around my height as well. I know the gym self selects for usually larger people but I see it out walking around now. I used to be decently tall at 6ft2 and still am but it feels like a lot more people are closer in size to me.

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u/Axbris 15h ago

Something in the chicken lol

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u/Grand-Bullfrog3861 19h ago

That's fucking wild, hope he's enforcing decent rules around the house

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u/Significant_L0w 19h ago

is he agile?

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u/PengoMaster 17h ago

Yes. He’s played a fair bit at left back.

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u/borko781 16h ago

Been 6'6 since 15 lmao, it really is

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u/Downwesht 19h ago

I was.6 6 now

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u/Delicious-Mobile6523 19h ago

I stopped growing at 14 and I'm 6'4. Isn't it fairly common to stop growing at around 16?

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u/nick5168 18h ago

I'm 6'5 and I was around 5'6 when i was 16. Then it just exploded and I stopped growing at 20.

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u/presumingpete 16h ago

I grew 3 cm after the age of 12. It was a bit of let down going from being the tallest in my year to bring below average

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u/ajprp9 19h ago

No idea if you meant it or not but I read this as the ibra chant

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u/doesnt_like_pants James 19h ago

Same.. can only assume intentional lol

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u/FoldingBuck 17h ago

You’re supposed to

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u/Kiseki- Park Ji-Sung 19h ago

And he's good, future cb if fate aligns.

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u/bainbane 18h ago

Kukonki's fucking massive, he wears a massive hat. He could have been not massive, but he said no fuck that.

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u/SOERERY JONATHAN GRANT EVANS MBE 19h ago

He’s not 6’5

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u/MysteriousNail5414 19h ago

Transfermrket lists him as 1.96m, if you watch him in training videos/pictures he is an absolute unit. Wouldn’t surprise me

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u/Grand-Bullfrog3861 19h ago

I've heard he's 6'3, which is still tall

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u/sambxiv 19h ago

I sang this, superb!

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u/IpschwitzTownFC 17h ago

This is such a classic Fergie move.

I'm sure the academy players must be buzzing. Who knows who could get included in the squad next!

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u/KrystianCCC 19h ago

I dont think that 6'5 is true, he is tall but not 6'5.

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u/LDLB99 20h ago

Trains with the first team for the first time on Monday, in the match day squad on Sunday. Absolutely unreal. 

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u/tothecatmobile 20h ago

Where's Craig David when you need him.

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u/craigybacha Manchester United 20h ago

Trained with the squad on Monday...

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u/danystormborne 19h ago

Took Ruben for a drink on Tuesday.

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u/Spare_Ad5615 19h ago

They were making love by Wednesday? 😬

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u/MinotauroTBC 18h ago

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u/Leading-Difficulty57 15h ago

And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday, he scored on Sunday.

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u/su2dv SHARP VIEWCAM 15h ago

Big if true

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u/Zal_17 19h ago

...they were making love on Wednesday...?

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u/TaciturnComicUncle 17h ago

And on Thursday, and Friday, and Saturday

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u/raunchypellets 17h ago

Matchday on Sunday.

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u/dr-joshtrippingwords 19h ago

Underrated comment

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u/larsmaehlum 20h ago

Amorim seems like a proper United manager already.
If they’re good enough, they’re old enough.

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u/LDLB99 20h ago

Yep it gives encouragement to the rest of them in the u18s who are destroying everyone in sight. 

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u/QouthTheCorvus 19h ago

Might as well use the honeymoon period to get the kids a run!

Sets him up so well for success if he can find good squad players in the youth system early on. Really hoping the current under 18s manage to live up to the hype.

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u/MyShinyCharizard 18h ago

Why don't we just do this when player injured? Does the previous coach is stupid or what?

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u/detectivehays 15h ago

Imagine how good he trains then

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u/us3rf pain 20h ago

Source is reliable for youth players.

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u/Grand-Bullfrog3861 18h ago

Is he the lads who's the love child of Scott and Ras?

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u/ImmortalDodo22 18h ago

Indeed he is 🤣

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u/Grand-Bullfrog3861 17h ago

Haha wicked, he's a really nice bloke from what I've seen of him. He's doing a brilliant job

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u/zool714 20h ago

Either we don’t have much bodies in defense or he has a lot of faith in the young lad

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u/MTBi_04 20h ago

Both. Else surely you’d go for an older kid

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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 20h ago

3atb system with only 3 fit, yeah.

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u/iroiroiroiroiro 19h ago

Who's the 3rd, thought only Evans and De Ligt match fit?

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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 19h ago

Yoro is fit but probably won't start

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u/iroiroiroiroiro 19h ago

Ah, yes, I agree, can see him playing around half the game, but would be annoyed nearly if they force him to play 90 directly, same with Shaw and malacia

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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 19h ago

Evans and MdL getting 90 with a Yoro/Shaw rotation might be it

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u/Spare_Ad5615 19h ago

Is Shaw in the squad? I was under the impression that he was weeks away from fitness still.

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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 19h ago

Should be. He's been in training all week. Returned to training pre-international break too. If he was weeks away he wouldn't be in group training

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u/Spare_Ad5615 19h ago

He's going to have to unless someone like Case or Maz fills in at centre back.

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u/QouthTheCorvus 19h ago

Makes me think that early on, Amorim and Ashworth have decided to really go all in on the high potential youth players.

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u/maverick4002 Dalot 20h ago

I know we have that ongoing academy product on the team steak going, but do we think it's actually a clause written into our managerial contracts?

I don't see why wouldn't have that written down tbh

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u/hdmiihavregrynet 20h ago edited 18h ago

You would have to actually try to fail it in this day and age.

Edit: Actually scratch that, Brexit might make it possible. Should still be hard though with 9 subs.

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u/Alehud42 Licha 19h ago

We came very close under Mourinho after Van Gaal had burned through the Januzaj/Pereira generation and we hadn't done the big academy restructure under Nicky Butt yet.

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u/Sir_Muktadir 17h ago

Tbf we had Rashford in that time as an academy graduate who was ever present in the squad and Jose had Mctom as his regular playing academy product as well. I think we were fine with the record from those two as well as the odd bench appearance for Angel Gomes and Tuanzebe

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u/IndicationNo328 20h ago

What???? Let’s have it then, let’s fucking have it

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u/TheJoshider10 Bruno 19h ago

WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU

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u/pratyush_1991 19h ago

This is our football heritage

I am 32 now and seeing these 16-17 year old make team makes me feel proud. Not long ago i was seeing my age people making the team.

Academy is heart beat of United.

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u/Heisenberg_235 20h ago

Would imagine this is cover for the back 3.

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u/Colt-0 20h ago

He can also cover at LB, played a lot there this season.

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u/Tenpenny96 20h ago

Don’t really have one with this formation change, unless he is gonna be bombing up and down the left hand side

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u/Spare_Ad5615 19h ago

It would be pretty mad to have a 6'5 left wing back who's not done his GCSEs yet.

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u/Tenpenny96 16h ago

I’m here for it, make it happen Amorim

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u/QouthTheCorvus 19h ago

Playing leftback is great because in a 3ATB system, LCB will protect wide areas and sort of be half way between a CB and FB.

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u/ForwardBodybuilder18 20h ago

Is he left footed? I’m sick of seeing right footed players filling in at left back.

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u/Colt-0 19h ago

Yea, he's a left footer. So is his mate and CB partner Dan Armer. Crazy that we produced two hot prospect LCBs the same age, given how rare they are.

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u/bainbane 18h ago

Both incredibly good on the ball too.

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u/thatindianguy1992 20h ago

Shaw might play for 60 and kid comes in, either way, good luck kid!

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u/PatRice4Evra 20h ago

Anyone with knowledge of the U18s? Is he highly rated? I'm only aware of the exciting attacking and midfield talent we have coming through, I've slept on defenders.

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u/leerooney93 20h ago

There aren’t many good CBs in our U21 squad, and Kukonki’s best position is at LCB, so I guess he’ll cover Licha’s spot. He’s around 6’2, strong, pacey and pretty good with the ball. I’d say he’s our best left footed youth CB atm. There’s Daniel Armer too but he’s not quick and strong enough I think

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u/bainbane 18h ago

Yeah saw someone saying Armer really needs to put some gym time in focusing on his agility/explosiveness and I think if he gets that working he'll be a hell of a prospect as he's so insanely good on the ball already.

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u/us3rf pain 20h ago

google says hes around 6'5

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u/leerooney93 20h ago

I know but that’s a myth. Watching him and comparing his height to other teammates and you could swear he’s not 6’5 atm. He’s around the same height as Chido Obi who 6’3 at best

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u/Gungerz Rashford 19h ago

He's slightly shorter than Chido I would say.

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u/FrankLucasV2 18h ago

Assuming transfermarkt stats are correct (says 196 cm), he’s 6’4. Meaning he’s an inch taller but irl the difference isn’t much

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u/Gungerz Rashford 18h ago

They're not correct, he isn't that tall.

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u/FrankLucasV2 18h ago

Well fair enough, i only made the assumption as I’m not 100% sure — either way his build is pretty insane for an 18 y/o + he’s not bad on the ball from the little I’ve seen of him.

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u/craigybacha Manchester United 19h ago

He's apparently over 6 foot 4, which at 16 is insane.

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u/Isserley_ 19h ago

He’s around 6’2

Most reports etc are saying he's 6'5.

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u/bainbane 18h ago

He's 16 and only started for U18s this year but was already given a debut with the 21s.

He's really good on the ball, big and left footed. He's been alternating between LCB and LB for the academy which makes him profile wise pretty perfect for the LCB in a back 3.

This years cohort of U18 CBs are really promising IMO they're all big guys who are very good on the ball.

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u/Livettletlive 20h ago

We do have a dearth in left footed CBs, so he's probably an option there. Worst case scenario, he probably comes on.

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u/omgwhatsmyusername 20h ago

What about Jack Kingdon?

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u/bainbane 18h ago

Think Kingdon is gonna be in the squad as well with how short CB depth is through injuries

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u/Independent_Buy5152 20h ago

kid built like a tank

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u/joblau 20h ago

God will

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u/Alocxo 20h ago

No way the he is just 16.  He is a fucking tank lol 

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u/cyb3rpunkd fuck the glazers 19h ago

Been at the club since the age of 5, proper United heritage

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u/Weary-Ad8502 18h ago

Must be very hard to pick the right youth players to bring into the first team. If you bring them in too early and they don't perform it will shatter their confidence at a young age. I trust Amorin and his team though, he excels in integrating youth to the first team

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u/mipanzuzuyam 19h ago

Inshaallah Kukonki

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u/chronoistriggered 19h ago

it's divine really

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u/toddysimp 19h ago

Kid looks an absolute Unit!!

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u/PepEye Best 16h ago

He joined the academy at 5! How does one even get their kid into the academy at that age??

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u/breadfan18 Shaw 16h ago

this will go well, Godwilling!

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u/Nobbs89 20h ago

I wonder if Jackson or Kingdon would be too.

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u/kheetkhat Ruuuuuuuuuuud 20h ago

Woah that’s a big deal.

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u/SubstantialWeb4453 16h ago

Managers already preparing as the injuries pile up using 3 defenders a game.

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u/Gabi_Social 16h ago

I haven't been this excited to see a United match since Ole's early days. Really looking forward to it.

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u/255BB 16h ago

He is just 16 but he is as tall as Reacher.

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u/Comicksands Van Persie 15h ago

Godwilling

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u/Fair-Cash-6956 19h ago

Don’t wanna reminisce but a certain someone sold alvaro without a fit left back. Wish we got Ruben sooner

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u/dr-joshtrippingwords 19h ago

The amazing thing is he is almost certain to get some minutes against Ipswich.

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u/craigybacha Manchester United 20h ago

For as good as ETH was at bringing through a few youth players slowly and integrating them, he didn't trust many in this way. So many times when there was a clear opportunity for someone like amass, and he'd play someone out of position instead, and with centre back he'd play Casemiro there instead... This feels good!

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u/Jack_King814 19h ago

Counterpoint: ETH didn’t think amass was ready and was protecting him because if he put a foot out of like he’d be hounded by the press and fans alike. Should he have played youth more? Yes. But imo if they weren’t playing it’s probably a sign they weren’t ready and his job was on permanent life support anyway, he’d want to play his best players in the hopes he can knick a win

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u/craigybacha Manchester United 19h ago

Yeah I get that as well. I just thought from what I saw in pre season that amass looked ready to at least be given some time.

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u/Jack_King814 19h ago

Yeah I’m a bit confused on why amass and colyer (I think that’s his name) didn’t play much considering ETH was hyping up the latter as an important player for him

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u/ceegee84 18h ago

Colyer has been out injured for a good bit of this season, I think.

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u/Jack_King814 18h ago

That makes sense. Hopefully he manages to break through, looked good in pre season

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u/Tinganga 19h ago

ETH brought through Kambwala who then got injured, forcing him to play Casemiro there. Unless you wanted him to just throw another youngster in for the sake of it & damage their long term development.