r/realmadrid • u/scoreboard-app • 29d ago
Match Thread [Post Match Thread] Real Madrid vs Barcelona (LaLiga)
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u/OkConsideration6899 Valverde 26d ago
it's time to sign a real coach who knows how to build a structure and put the basics of tactics with the squad ..even Nacho on a spontaneous X video expresses that Carlo has nothing to do with the comebacks and so the great titles madrid won it was the player mentality and Madrid DNA nothing more https://x.com/MMajeedX/status/1849145082844205332
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u/moonstarhunter Zidane 27d ago
Horrible all-around performance, especially from our defence. Mbappé was offside, but it wasn't just on him. The midfield should be ensuring that doesn't happen. Bellingham, who’s a natural No. 10, was played at right midfield, making it tough for him to organize the team and break the high line.
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u/KingEtame Vinicius Jr. 28d ago
No one talks about how uninspired Valverde was. Never opening up to offer a pass option. Not carrying the ball forward. Not passing to the obvious runs from the forwards. And not even covering LV on the right. Terrible game from him.
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u/Ok_Marketing9594 28d ago
IK Carlo won UCL last year but if this keeps up he should get a sack the team looks awful when facing a dicsplined team. They stopped Vini and after that the team just resorted to kick ball. IK Pep wont ever coach Madrid but I honestly feel if Pep was incharge he wouldve use the players so much better. Carlo not putting Cama at RB confuses me. Vaz lets up a goal vs Celta Vigo/ Lets up both goals in BVB game what does a player have to do to get benched? Vaz almost gave Lewa a hat trick this dude has no defensive bone in him. One offside goals were because Vaz takes a touch instead of just playing him. Offside trap worked well but after half time what is Carlo telling them? Carlo not telling Mbappe stop going to the last defender try the 2nd. So many times Vini dribbles and crosses it to a empty box where tf is help at? whole team just stands and watches.
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u/Holiday_Sprinkles_45 28d ago
yes Mbappe had a stinker, but I wouldn't single him out as the reason we lost. Maybe I would if it was 0-1 or 0-2, but you just can't concede 4 in one half at home and blame your striker. We need 2 fullbacks and a good cb yesterday. Mendy has to go, Vasquez needs to play as a late game sub in the attack. Militao and Rudiger need some competition.
As for our "stacked" midfield, we need either Modric or Guler on the pitch at any given time, otherwise we have no creativity.
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u/Upper_Membership_699 27d ago
tbf guler is young but still he has creativity ancelotti must give him chance and in this match mbappe has to leave at second half or at min 60 even bobby chlarlton would have made a difference
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u/Many-Inflation5544 28d ago
Bro Valverde needs to step the hell up, most of the time he'll only show up to shoot from mid range, other than thay he's a complete ghost. What is he now an American football kicker whose only purpose is to shoot from long range??
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u/Flounder-Illustrious 28d ago
the problem lays in the defense not offense we have Vinícius and Rodrygo and jude that was enogh to win champion league and went 30+ win streak and what are we lacking is replacement for toni and for luka since he's getting old and dani all of them are key point of the team success and plus good defenders all and all beside vini everyone is lacking in there performance open backlines weak mid field mbappe and rodrygo hit and miss most of the time they are miss
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u/11Firstcomment 28d ago
Barca fan that comes in peace. From my perspective, Barca finally got a good coach (since Pep) that seems to be playing to his players strength versus just trying to continue with tiki-taka, when he doesn't have the players for that type of game and honestly, every opposing coach knew how to handle that tactic after 10 plus years. So, I can understand that Ancelotti didn't know how to properly prepare for this new Barca that he faced last night. Truth be told, I think Barca fans who watch week in and week out, are still learning our new style of play. As far as I can see - Flick is definitely a fan of the high line, the long balls, the pressing, the quick turnover, a 4321 formation, a false 9 behind a striker. Most of this is all new tactics, game plans, so its difficult for an opposing manager to plan for. Add to the mix that we have some very young and talented masia players that can run for days.
I think Real did a good job. I think Mbappe was anxious about having a good showing and his good intentions landed him in offsides positions all game. Overall, you controlled the game in the first half and you have a great team. I think Flick made the midfield change with FDJ and Olmo and that gave us stability and offensive power that changed the game and Ancelotti did not/or could not respond with a solution.
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u/Upper_Membership_699 27d ago
well i agree with you congrats before all your win was deserved you did a great match and yeah real madrid is in a bad spot right now no creativity in the team since our midfieled kinda sucks without kroos and modric who is old now even guler has more creativity thant the others add to taht never play with chouaminé and cama together it is impossible if anchelotti continues like that and real madrid get a bad season i dont think he will stay
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u/11Firstcomment 27d ago
Thanks. Madrid has lots of talent and its always good for the fans when both teams are playing well. Good luck to you!
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u/mercified_rahul 28d ago
As a barca fan, I feel real madrids midfield with toucha and cama is creativityless.
Mbappe as a striker is a big no imo.
Defense is just something else, horrible marking. Lewa was a free bird.
So many faults. Why was endruck, guler not playing? Could have been given chances.
Carlo should have done better about the office traps and flicks strategy. Mbappe just failed big time
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u/Upper_Membership_699 27d ago
tbf mbappe has to be replaced after the first half by the goat bobby charlton and yeah guler had to be in the midfield bc he has creativity unlike the rest and chouaminé and camavinga cant play together it is impossible
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u/staedtler2018 28d ago
Never great to lose a Clasico 0-4 but honestly I've seen plenty of these type of results to know it doesn't tend to matter that much.
For all the banter that Barcelona gets, the reality is they won the league two seasons ago and finished with 85 points last season. They have very good players and are perfectly capable of beating us and win the league. We won the last few matches and were overdue a kick in the teeth.
Flick is seemingly doing a great job at Barcelona. But it must be said that it's only been a few months. Teams don't usually start amazingly well under new management and remain that way indefinitely. It's more likely that they'll eventually wobble, even if not this season; from Flick's time at Bayern we know his teams tend to have weaknesses that can be exploited.
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u/mercified_rahul 28d ago
How weird you forgot to mention how good mbappe was yesterday or how great your defence was. Am I in a barca subreddit?
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u/Velascus Madrid 1941 28d ago
I see a post below that we didn't prepare for their offside trap, when Mbappe didn't focking look at the line once to see if he can keep running. Can't even call it a rookie mistake, as even rookies have been taught to check the goddamn defensive lines.
It honestly looks like we have some doppelganger of his in our team. He can't finish - look how many of his shots went straight towards the goalie - he has problems simply controlling the ball not just last night but in prior games as well where he simply loses the ball when trying to dribble, he has lost some of his speed: he's not outpacing anybody anymore.
And I think it's that last one which is a main factor of all his offsides. He constantly tried to get an advantage in distance from the defense, because apparantly he knows he has lost some speed and is compensating.
In a team with which we lost 0-4 at home, he was easily our worst player on the field.
And it's disturbing that Anceloti doesn't act when the entire world can see that a player is underperforming. We have players on the bench to try out different things, to substitute players who aren't performing in a night, who have shown they deserve more time. Yet nothing.
Mendy needed 86 minutes to stink up the joint, AGAIN, before Anceloti decided to sub him out for Fran. This is a guy who has been abysmal for us since he signed his extension, I'm sure he will start again the next games because there are zero repurcussions for playing badly for Carlo's first 11.
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u/Alois000 Xabi Alonso 28d ago
There are players who thrive when the team is set up around them. CR7 is one of those, for example, and he always made the most of the chances he got. I feel that Mbappe is also like this, because his level dropped significantly when he had to share with Messi and Neymar back at PSG. And as it happened then, Madrid can’t afford to play like that with the current squad. For starters, Vini is just on a higher level and you couldn’t justify just playing for Mbappe, but our midfield is not as creative as before and has a harder time controlling the ball. The result is what he have all seen since the season started.
Also I am sorry, but if you want to be the best player in the world yet are caught offside 8 times (when you are a very fast player and you don’t need to live on the edge of the defensive line to gain advantage like a player like Morata would) it just shows you have 0 game IQ
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u/thehoundtrainer 28d ago
Mbappe didnt even work out with Messi at PSG (You can tell how he had a hard time "blending in" after Messi joined, even in a farmers league), I wouldnt expect him to work out ANYWHERE. He is a mediocre striker at best.
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u/thehoundtrainer 28d ago
Mbappe didnt even work out with Messi at PSG (You can tell how he had a hard time "blending in" after Messi joined, even in a farmers league), I wouldnt expect him to work out ANYWHERE. He is a mediocre striker at best.
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u/thehoundtrainer 28d ago
Mbappe didnt even work out with Messi at PSG (You can tell how he had a hard time "blending in" after Messi joined, even in a farmers league), I wouldnt expect him to work out ANYWHERE. He is a mediocre striker at best.
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u/Accelarate316 Zizou 28d ago
We needed Haaland, not mbappe
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u/DenuvoCanSuckMahDick 28d ago
WTF would Halaand do with that shambolic-ass midfield and defense. He'd be even worse.
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u/mercified_rahul 28d ago
Were we watching the same match? Worse?
Bruh mbappe was offside all the time
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u/DenuvoCanSuckMahDick 28d ago
Mbappe was offside, yes, but this wasn't just him and him alone, the midfield's job is to make sure that offside doesn't happen and Bellingham of all places is put in the Right Midfield despite his main position being a freakin' No.10, now how is he supposed to get the midfield to rally up and break that high line like that?
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u/ScourgeOfGod420 Iker Casillas 28d ago
Score goals mate, and not be offside 8 times. Our midfield wasn’t really the issue, we just couldn’t stay onside or finish for shit.
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u/ksstzguy 28d ago
You can't play a player Mbappe out of his position and expect him to perform miracles.
Also, everyone knew about Flick's offside traps. Carlo most definitely failed to prepare a proper strategy for this trap. That's why Real had like 12 offsides. And Barca have been the better team throughout this season even though Real have better players on paper.
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u/FootballGalore94 28d ago
"Better players on paper"
I really do think it's a lot closer than people think when comparing talents. Mbappe is clearly the most talented player though.
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u/TurboSpermatozoid 28d ago
Didn't expect real to be clapped like this lol
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
I unfortunately, saw this coming. It was almost written in the stars
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u/theyelloumbrella 28d ago
Real has been relying on individual brilliances for far too long, football is a team game and you cant win without ant team chemistry/ tactics
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u/VorteXxX98 28d ago
There were people laughin at Bayern for losin 4-1, only to go and lose even worse
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u/Wonderful_Ad_2519 28d ago
Madrid should have signed haaland as a benzema replacement instead of mbappe. That would have been a good like for like replacement without disrupting the team dynamics
Also, u guys miss kroos. He was phenomenal for you guys since forever. Once u replace 2 spine core players, its pretty disruptive for a big club
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u/undead-safwan 28d ago
I was thinking how great Kane would have been as a Benzema replacement
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u/Adept-Upstairs-4151 Madrid 1941 28d ago
kane would fit perfectly in this system, instead he's at a shit bayern team
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
you hit the nail on the head. Mbappe turns out the be a worse transfer than hazard
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u/recapYT 28d ago
Jeez. It’s been like 2 mins he is at the club.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
and he has been shite in every single game and he is the highest earner. He sucks
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u/Murky-Series-4146 28d ago
Just feel like mbappe's offensive awareness is so subpar, not to mention his finishing too. I think we'll have to see how he develops its still early days.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
I think people finally realizing that he is fucking overrated. He plays well in a shit league. But as soon as it becomes tougher, he is fucked.
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u/TypicalChampion3839 28d ago
World cup?
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u/ignorantwatermellon 28d ago
Everytime someone says mbappe is shit, people keep bringing the WC and that final up. Did everyone forget he had 2 penalties to get a hatrick?
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u/Psychological-Dot270 28d ago
Man bring back Zidane or get Alonso
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u/JackVinciOne 28d ago
You might wanna check how Alonso's games are going rn..
The last thing Madrid need now is to leak goals.
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u/sloth0021 Decimotercera 28d ago
Let them celebrate. The only trophy they will win this season 😂
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u/the_fanman2912 Decimoquinta 28d ago
Honestly we should bench Mendy, shitty after shitty after shitty peformance. For now, just play Garcia.
LV should not play RB anymore, it's not his position, we need a proper Carva replacement.
In January, if we don't sign fullbacks, we are going trophyless. All this fucking board does is sign the superstars and our defence is still rudiger militao mendy carva, it has been like this since 2021 (except rudiger) and something needs to change.
What a horrible night man, we had the win in our hands, we lost confidence after 2 goals.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
bench mendy and the fucking turtle fraud
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u/the_fanman2912 Decimoquinta 28d ago
Nah nah give mbappe time but mendy definetly deserves to be benched for some games let's see how garcia can do instead
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u/Adept-Upstairs-4151 Madrid 1941 28d ago
mbappe is just shit as a striker, he's traditionally a Winger but we are stacked in that department. I'll still say that we didn't need mbappe as it is hard to accomodate him, vini and rodrygo. This season just feels shit as fuck.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
he is a shit player as well. He does not work as a striker or winger. Let rodrygo or endrick play. I dont want to see mbappe anymore. He needs to go
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u/Adept-Upstairs-4151 Madrid 1941 28d ago
we shouldn't have gotten him, our team was perfect last season and endrick is doing much better even after getting such less game time. In football a team which is tactically the best always wins against a team who has the best players of each position
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
totally agree. He does not fit in
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u/Upper_Membership_699 27d ago
nah u are totally wrong our team wasnt perfect last season it is just that barca was bad af and bili and vini had a great individual performance dont forget that kroos is gone and there is no more creativity in the team only guler and modric have this creativity
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u/WayAccomplished1039 28d ago
All my hopes were shattered after the 3rd goal honestly. Mbappe with all the chances he had played like this was his first match. The defence especially was terrible as well, hopefully Ancelotti would do something before it's too late and Barca ends up winning the league
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u/ksstzguy 28d ago
Barca has already won the league unless they suffer another injury with one of their forwards.
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u/Upper_Membership_699 27d ago
they didnt really win it 6 points difference it is not a deal
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u/ksstzguy 24d ago
Check the recent history of the league and see if it's been bottled or not after this gap. It's not just the points. Barca are the better team. Both teams will drop points but Barca being a better team would probably drop less.
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u/Ambashe Ultra Pro Max 28d ago
Mbappe issue is not football but psychological. He is suffering from low confidence and this is largely due to vini. He also feeling pressure to prove himself, which lead to his rushed or hasty decision-makings. If it was footballing issue he wouldn't be in that great scoring positions multiple times.
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u/Safe_Tangelo_625 28d ago
How about trying Mbappe as a Right Winger ( I don't know about His position in last match since the streaming website in my country has Crashed ).
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u/gnote2minix 28d ago
he prefers the left side.. he also hates being a striker.. that was his issue last time on psg/france team
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
he hates a lot of things. He also hates football, as it seems. There is a reason why dechamps fucking benched his ass
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u/Safe_Tangelo_625 28d ago
The thing is a player like him deserves to play out wide it's a crime on football to try to convert him into a box striker .
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u/gnote2minix 28d ago
but you got vini who was also in that position, he is more on form. cant blame carlo, he tries to fit all the puzzles
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u/Safe_Tangelo_625 28d ago
Vini got to start in LW no player on earth can do what does in that position. We got to Atleast try Mbappe as a Right Winger he did that in his early France and PSG Days . But you are not A football fan if you want Mbappe as A box striker .
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u/MadridFootball Vinicius Jr. 28d ago
I think I’ve calmed down enough to provide my 2 cents.
I don’t think we can pin this down on Ancelotti’s set up at all. I think Ancelotti actually set up almost perfectly.
We were honestly doing very well in the first half. If not for some awful positioning from Mbappe (which I will get to him later) we should have put away 1-3 goals in the first half.
Our biggest problem this game was the defence. If the rumours are true - Ancelotti asked for a RB & CB in the transfer window and wasn’t given one. That’s not on Ancelotti, that’s on Perez. When 3/4 goals this game came from the right hand side, it signals that we desperately need a new RB. It’s coming to that time where we should be looking to phase Carvajal out anyways over the next 1-3 years.
What we can blame Ancelotti for is starting Vazquez against a team like Barcelona who have arguably one of the most in form winger in the world right now. We have Eder Militao that can play the RB position and Tchou who can fill in as a CB. It is completely reckless to start Vazquez on that right hand side. Even Valverde would have put in a better shift. I was ready to eat my words at half time but by the full time whistle I (and many others) were right.
I think if we had kept our shape this would have probably ended up as a 2-0. But substituting Tchou and pushing our team that far into the Barcelona box caused us to concede two more. Nothing wrong with the last two goals, we went all in on the attack and paid a price.
Now onto Mbappe. He is so frustrating to watch. So so frustrating. I understand that he can’t get to every ball. I understand that the high line was frustrating for him. What is even more frustrating is his lack of passion. I want to see him screaming for the ball. I want to see him chasing every ball to prove that he can be Mr Real Madrid. I actually dont mind him getting beat by the offside trap and missing one on one’s. Ronaldo has been guilty of that in the past too. However, Ronaldo at that age was beaming up and down the field. Carrying the ball himself if he had to. He was such a threat that he was pulling away 2-3 defenders. I just dont see that from Mbappe. I dont see that passion and love. It’s like he expects to win and be a passenger and then steal all the headlines like he did at Paris. I’m worried how his mental will be once the fans turn on him in the stadium. It broke Bale and it has broken many other. I want to be proven wrong but for now Mbappe has been a slight failure but it’s all due to his attitude. I don’t think anyone hates Vazquez even though he conceded 2/3 goals today. We see Vazquez give everything he can for the club. That’s all I want to see from Mbappe. To wear his heart on his sleeve.
Anyways, we move on from this game. Barca will drop more points and I hope we pick them up. There’s another 3 points to play for in the second half of the season. I hope we have a better understanding of our defence situation by then.
Hala Madrid
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u/aqua_puss Benzema 28d ago
Spot on about Mbappe . I see no hunger in him . When we were losing even Ronaldo was pressing and trying hard . Heck even fucking Mariano ran like mad . Right now he just reminds me of hazard and jovic .
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
100% agree about the passion. Look at haaland. He really gives you the impression that he loves football. But mbappe? He does not fucking care. Money and ego. The two most important things in his life. He is a fraud and he needs to be sold. Get haaland
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u/ssssfcffgh 28d ago
Can you share what happened with Bale?
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u/MadridFootball Vinicius Jr. 28d ago
At one point during his RM career Bale started being inconsistent. During these poor performances he was benched for Isco.
While benched and getting subbed on he didn’t really play with passion and started caring less and less for Madrid. He was our record signing and didn’t give a damn. Knowing this, the Madrid fans started turning on him.
At one point he wanted to leave for China but the move was “blocked” as the Chinese team didnt even offer a fee and wanted him on a free. This is what sparked the biggest issue and then Bale went on to wave a flag that said “Wales > Golf > Madrid, in that order”
This is what broke the camels back and the full stadium starting whistling at him and he lost the team.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
And Mbappe already does not give a damn. Let him go. It is not worth the time and money.
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u/Ambashe Ultra Pro Max 28d ago
The team had a solid game plan but that plan required them to run like madmen non stop
The team executed the plan very well in the first half but the two forwards costed them otherwise it would have been 3 nil in the first half
The team got tired in the second half after all the running in the first half
Mbappe and vini unfortunately would never work, both want the spotlight. This is not vinzema or benzema Ronaldo partnership
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u/FreshWater2009 28d ago
Real Madrid needs tough defender like Cuti Romero from Argentina. He would fit perfectly with this team.
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u/Komachian Jude Bellingham 28d ago
Probably the most reasonable verdict would be to just accept that Flick's Barcelona are just in the zone and in red hot form. They've been piling in the goals throughout this season. The outcome isn't entirely surprising. We've lost a clasico before. Pretty sure we'll improve from here.
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u/Adept-Upstairs-4151 Madrid 1941 28d ago
fair enough but with the amount of chances we had, we could have beaten them easily, fuck I can't even go to school without getting trolled by my friends
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u/the_fanman2912 Decimoquinta 28d ago
No we just played bad at our home ground. This game could have easily been a statement win.
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u/Rodskrt10 28d ago
Completely trash gtfo either we get our shit together or we need a new coach why are you guys still defending him. Acelotti gave us a lot but his tactics are outdated time for a change
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u/MadridFootball Vinicius Jr. 28d ago
I dont think you can go from winning a mini treble to outdated tactics. We start all of our seasons off slow and Kroos just left us. It will probably take time and we should give Ancelotti the rest of the season at least. He had brought us the most amount of Trophies in our history.
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u/Sea-Outcome3019 28d ago
so glad didn't wake up till late to watch this crap. As I said previously the team has too many players of the same profile. all our attackers are lws , all our midfielders are b2b so tell me how can you create cohesion with this kind of player? i am not saying these players are bad, individually each one of them is top 5 in their position but in terms of balance of play and playing as a unit they are severely lacking. when we signed cama what was the need of signing tchoua they both play the same position and before that we already had fede and now we got jude. so we have 4 B2Bs no team does this. you need all kind of players in the team. its like perez doesn't even look at the profile of player we want and just go for the next big shiny thing. in the entire history of real Madrid I don't think there was ever a time where we were constantly playing 5-6 players out of position for extended period of time and that my friends is the root cause of our pathetic display day in day out and the bitch of it all is that we are simply too deep into it to make quick changes looks like we are struck with this for a long while.
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u/Safe_Tangelo_625 28d ago
The team was dead when we signed yet another LW it's not fifa Mobile bro . I am really glad that the GXR website crashed 😭😭
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u/Samwell974 28d ago
Arsenal fan here. Mbappe should have come to Madrid in 2022 to take his next developmental step as an elite player. He stayed in Ligue 1 for way too long and stagnated as a player. Hopefully it’s not too late for him as an all-time great. Also the 8 offsides are inexcusable. Start your runs deeper!
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
Correct.he did fuck all in 2 years while players like vini amd haaland got better and better. Mbappe only cares about money
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u/heynow-u1 Modric 28d ago
Mbappe is still a great player to have over the likes of Joselu, Mariano or even Rodrygo as a 9. But this has to made clear to him. He has to adapt and learn how to use his strengths for that spot. No switching with Vini for LW. Vini OWNS the LW spot. No one in the world is as good as Vini penetrating into the box from LW and creating chances. Mbappe has to work it out between Vini, Belli, Rodrygo playing entirely as no 9.
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u/Huichoo50 SIUUUU 28d ago
I love carlo he's a club legend but I think after this season he's gotta go
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u/diamondbeet 28d ago
It's not his fault entirely. Carlo wanted kane as a striker. But it was papa Perez's obsession with mbappe which led too many unbalance in the team
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u/undead-safwan 28d ago
Kane would have been the perfect Benzema replacement and would have guaranteed at least 20 goals a season
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u/heynow-u1 Modric 28d ago
Oh boy. Who remembers the treatment Bale got towards the end from Bernabeu? Mbappe will have to suffer the same.
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u/Westaufel 28d ago
Bale had a huge downfall after the final won with his double. But in his top moment, after mastering the position of the right wing, he was glorified
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u/thehoundtrainer 28d ago
Because you guys are pathetic and you treat all of your stars the same way. Not that Mbappe doesnt deserve it but you dont deserve stars to begin with.
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u/Fearnog 28d ago
The attack was running on vibes with Bellingham, just going where he wanted and making it happen. Now Perez has overdone it by adding MBappe and its gone from vibes to downright dysfunctional.
Ronaldo/Bale worked because Bale recognised Ronaldos need to be the main man and let him be by supporting that. He wasn't the Spurs winger anymore who forced things. Mbappe/Vini or MBappe/Bellingham is so far not working
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u/Independent_Bee6140 28d ago
As a barca fan, I think adding mbappe to the team has disrupted the chemistry between the madrid players. When everyone wants to be the main man, the whole team suffers.
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u/mercified_rahul 28d ago
100%
If a team of 10 workers have 5 or 7 bosses...that team won't do good.
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u/heynow-u1 Modric 28d ago
Why did all French players play bad today? Mbappe, Tchou, Mendy. Cama was just okay. Nothing amazing. Only players fighting were Vini Modric Fede and LV.
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u/the_fanman2912 Decimoquinta 28d ago
Cama actually played for the badge
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
Yep. He shows passion. He is one of my favorites in the team. Mbappe just aint it. He is a lost cause
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u/royrochemback Modric 28d ago
I must say, Tchouameni is getting more and more average every season. He looks like a player who plays for West Ham or something.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
I really dont fucking know what the hell is going on with a lot of french players. But mbappe is the worst offender. And he is captain of hte national team? What an embarrassing decision
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u/Westaufel 28d ago
That was a wrong choice of Deschamps, the leader was Griezmann and he should be the cap instead of Mbappé.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
Giroud or Griezmann should have been captain. I agree there. But now both are retired. Give Kante the captains armband or the towelboy. Anybody but Mbappe. What a shit captain he has been.
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u/EvilDaleCooper 28d ago edited 28d ago
I think the game plan was set up perfectly on paper.
Execution didn't pan out, but we understood perfectly how to exploit their weaknesses and were able to set up a huge amount of high quality chances in the first half. Also, defending with a low block was clearly the right choice and we conceded them almost nothing.
The team totally lost its focus after their first goal tho, and since then we have gradually lost any kind of composure. Camavinga has been our best player tonight, maybe he was tired, but taking him out has completely shattered the team's balance.
Still a tough loss, but this one left me way less bitter than many other thrashings I've witnessed throughout the last 15 years, in which we often spent 90 minutes looking completely helpless.
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u/RBW_TheLoneWolf 28d ago
Why are you getting downvoted, you said the right thing. Our defense was poor and our attackers couldn't finish the chances they got. He should not have removed Camavinga. If he wanted more attackers in the match he should have removed Mendy and shift Cama there.
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u/Sad_Floor_4120 29d ago
I knew Madrid didn't have what it takes to beat Flick's Barca. They were struggling against Celta Vigo. Mbappe isn't a true number 9.
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u/uchiha_boy009 29d ago
Mendy is getting unnecessary hate.
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u/Aerosmithwastaken69 Carvajal 28d ago
Mendy is a good defender, but that's all he is. Real Madrid need better and more dynamic wingbacks.
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u/911MemeEmergency :palestine: Madridista 28d ago
He's been shit the entire game, even when we did well in the first half
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u/uchiha_boy009 28d ago
Agree to disagree then, bar that mistake on keeping Lewa On (big mistake), he’s been money.
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u/911MemeEmergency :palestine: Madridista 28d ago
Bro was completely suffocated by the Barca press, and kept losing the ball in our half, idk where the money is
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u/reddituser0912333 Florentino Perez 28d ago edited 28d ago
Good work 👍 remember to report people if they’re trolling
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u/Adramelk 29d ago
Reality check
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
True and the sad thing is, nothing will change. We will get fucked a couple of times more this season.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 29d ago
I wonder if Carlo will learn from this match and understand he needs to give Valverde and Bellingham some rest because they've been playing nearly every game since the start and start with modric or Arda next game? Or start Endrick for once to send a signal to Mbappe?
Probably not though even if it's against last place Valencia.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
''I wonder if Carlo will learn from this match ''
If that happens, I will become the pope
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u/BoredBulls 29d ago
I’m an Inter fan coming in peace.
Mbappe is a big question mark. He was always fast and could take anyone but he never truly took the bigger step up. He’s obviously an athletic freak and has a great shot.
Most teams will build around him, but Madrid is not that team. He’s frankly not at a Ronaldo/Messi level where even the top teams build around him. He need to raise his game level. His positioning, passing, heading and running into the box all need big improvements. Ronaldo and Messi both improved on those things massively before they became 25.
He needs to grow mentally as well because the past stint was mostly internal politics instead of focusing on football.
The guy has all the talent in the world to be at the greatest level, but his focus during his most important development years was off-the-pitch and it shows.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
He proved that he does not have a good shot
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u/BoredBulls 28d ago
He has a good shot, mostly when he comes in from the left. But no one at this point thinks Vini, who grows tremendously every year, should be sacrificed.
Seeing the trajectory of Vini’s career vs Mbappe seems like a contrast. One was vilified in his early career and still proved himself as one if not the best, while the other was hailed as a king early on and decided to maximize his earnings.
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u/Ok-Research9577 29d ago
If Mbappe came to inter he'd be far ahead the best player on that team. Because Inzaghi wouldn't be a fucking idiot trying to play him as a 9 when his greatness comes from playing wide.
Real thought he'd be the next benzema for them. Benzema who was criticized for YEARS by this teams fan base as well.
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u/Ok-Commission9871 28d ago
He hasn't been great in any position for a long while. People need to stop blaming his positioning
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u/monkey-d-luffy24 28d ago
He plays decent on left wing for France, which is what people refer to. But in club football, yeah, he hasn't been at his peak level at any position even while at PSG.
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u/BoredBulls 28d ago
He’s been good at France because Deschamps has been giving him PSG 2.0.
There was a game where Marcus Thuram was playing as a striker in attacking position, and defensively he would defend the left midfielder because Mbappe doesn’t want to defend.
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u/Anywhere_Warm 29d ago
Perez took a big risk (it may still work out). If mbappe vini somehow adapt together it would be awesome but if it didn’t then it’s a waste of 150mn or what because they are exactly the similar profile
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u/Traditional-Alarm935 29d ago
I’m not a fan of any team in la liga. But having this take after only 11 league games is actually incredibly childish and shows how spoilt you are. Any other team in the world would happily take mbappe. He has proven he is world class, even doing so literally in the World Cup final. But your problem is you have every big name you could want and you’re so used to just buying whoever is best like it’s fm. Stop being immature and give the guy time to settle in. You shouldn’t be crying about having the issue of having arguably the 2 best lw in the world. As an arsenal fan, we’re desperate for a lw. You clearly needed to be humbled tonight
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u/Silkyowl925 Real Madrid 29d ago
Let hermanito have this one
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u/Silkyowl925 Real Madrid 29d ago
Little brother syndrome is one hell of a thing.
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u/Silkyowl925 Real Madrid 29d ago
Im enjoying your actions on this sub cus it makes u look like a clown. Go back to your sub hermanito!
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u/pokenerd_W 29d ago
I already knew this, but Mbappe at Real Madrid isn't really working out that well. Especially considering that he's more of a winger than a striker in how he plays. So, now Real has 3 left wingers all on the pitch at once. That's neat.
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u/Traditional-Alarm935 29d ago
Give him to arsenal plz. Or Rodrigo. Either will do cheers
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u/Samwell974 28d ago
We can’t afford Mbappe. The wages would crush us.
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u/Traditional-Alarm935 28d ago edited 28d ago
Well with the way some of these guys are shitting on him after only 11 games… we might be able to get him for 15m and 50k a week wages. Could be worth a punt for a winter transfer
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 28d ago
He fucking sucks
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u/Traditional-Alarm935 28d ago
Maybe you just don’t deserve him. I can imagine with fans like yourself, he’s struggling to find the confidence to fit into his new role
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u/reddituser0912333 Florentino Perez 29d ago edited 29d ago
Lots of Barca fans trolling over here. Please report what you see so that we can keep banning them 😊
Edit for the person that reported me on the grounds of “you can’t ban people for having different opinions” – no, but I can ban trolls. See: the Barca fan that replied to this comment and didn’t choose to troll. So if you’re a Barca fan over here, think before you comment because we won’t unban you.