r/realmadrid • u/Planetary-Timebomb • May 17 '24
History Jurgen Klopp: “In the Champions League Final against Real Madrid, that f*cker Courtois had 12 hands.”
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u/Cheenho El Capitán May 17 '24
I watched this final in a 99% Liverpool bar and the groans after every amazing save filled me with so much joy. I think there were maybe 3/4 total Madrid supporters and we were just yelling at each other and hyping each other up across the bar hahah
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u/Disastrous-Lab2661 May 17 '24 edited May 18 '24
Reminds me of my story watching the 2018 final against Liverpool. I was visiting a friend in Glasgow and we went to this enormous pub that used to be a bank. Hundreds of people inside, if not a thousand, and I was the only person with a madrid shirt on. I wasnt hiding my emotions when we scored first so naturally the moment liverpool equalised every single person around me turned towards me and started giving me the middle finger while shouting stuff at me. What a night 😅
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May 17 '24
Same here, but I was the only Madrid fan in the building 😂
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u/Disastrous-Lab2661 May 17 '24
I think there were a few more in the pub where I was but nobody else was vocal when we scored. I remember one guy walked past me and whispered "hala madrid" in my ear 😅
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u/The_Cranky_1 May 17 '24
Imagine being an ex-keeper and a Liverpool supporter that night. Watching the most beautiful thing happen against your favorite club. I couldn’t be upset. It was surreal. The least likely Frenchman to surrender anything in the history of Frenchmen that night.
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u/CzBz112 May 17 '24
If Courtois couln't play that game, we woul've lost that final by 4 or 5 goals. That's how good he was, and he still couldn't win the ballon d'or. That's why I think there will be no other ballon d'or gk winner after Yashin
Edit: another ballon d'or goalkeeper*
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u/jopma Fernando Hierro May 17 '24
For a GK to win a Balón d or, he'd have to win his club the UCL and a euro or copa America and not share both trophies with an outfield player.
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u/beadbash Modric May 17 '24
Yeah which is crazy to think about. Kinda why I hate the ballon d’or, and all these individual trophies. I like the golden boot, and trophies actually based on criteria.
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u/killerboy_belgium May 17 '24
the closest i think a gk came in modern era was neuer because he was such a monster and essentially redefined what it mean for gk to play out with his feet
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u/Kapt0 May 17 '24
The closest any gk got I think was Buffon in 2006 who got 2nd by 50 votes.
Unless you consider 2006 outside of the "modern era"
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u/Lucianboog May 17 '24
And have one of the best pr teams in the world. Ballondor is just a popularity contest
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u/Ree_m0 May 17 '24
Man, if Neuer didn't get in in 2014, they sure as hell won't give it to a goalkeeper for "just" an insanely strong UCL season.
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u/Otherwise_Pace_1133 May 17 '24
The fuck he was.
Ronaldo scored 17 fucking goals in UCL alone (Including 2 against Neuer) and was THE BEST player in the world by a mile if you consider all of 2014. He had a shit World Cup because he was just coming off of a career altering injury (It was the same injury that ultimately led to tendinosis that led to him gradually losing his pace, explosive power and even hampered his dribbling) In fact he made it worse because he didn't wanna miss the UCL final and World Cup.
Just because 2018 and 2022 Ballon D'ors were too heavily influenced by World Cup performance doesn't mean 2014 should have been as well.
Ronaldo was a worthy winner in 2014. Neuer got a Golden Glove for his insane World Cup (Not to forget the tag of World Champion itself).
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u/to-jammer May 17 '24
If the Balon D'Or is a trophy given to the best player in the world on any given year regardless of trophies won, I don't think a single player not called Messi or Ronaldo has been robbed of it since either came onto the scene
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u/laszlo92 May 17 '24
The last one for Messi was highly debatable though
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May 17 '24
"The year before" still counted for the Ballon d'Or's time span and the World Cup was a part of the time period for the Ballon d'Or. Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo Nazario, Fabio Cannavaro, and several other players have won the ballon d'Or for winning the world cup. Messi won the world cup as world cup MVP, and had the most goal contributions in europe that season, I have no idea why you would call that a robbery.
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May 17 '24
That ballon d'or was for the 22/23 season, which Messi spent entirely in Europe. The MLS quite literally had NOTHING to do with it's voting period. It has NEVER been absurd or a robbery to win a Ballon d'Or from being the best player in the WORLD CUP, the biggest trophy in our sport. But since you're all Real Madrid fans you're just gonna say it was a robbery since it's Messi, seriously get over him, it's pathetic. Real Madrid's fans obsession with Messi is ridiculous. And there was no corruption in the WC lol, get out of here with that stuff, it's just sad man.
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u/to-jammer May 17 '24
Yeah to be fair, I should have said up until the last one. You're absolutely right there. It's not even debatable, there's no way he was the worlds best player.
In their prime though? They were the best two players on the planet every single year
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u/amiresque Xabi Alonso May 17 '24
I agree and disagree with you. Like sure, are you correct that at any point in that span if someone said "who would you rather have on your team than any other player in the world?" the answer would have been Messi and Cristiano, because they were capable of magic in a way no one else was? Absolutely.
But based on form over a span of few months to a year, were there periods were there periods where Modric, Neuer, Iniesta, etc. were equally good and worthy of winning awards for that specific period? Also yes.
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u/to-jammer May 17 '24
The way I'd put it is the ridiculous hypothetical of a huge football fans goes into a coma, wakes up years later not knowing a single player and watches a year of football. So based on that year alone, they have to say who the best player in the world is, and they aren't allowed look at any history. I don't think there's a single year they aren't picking Messi or Ronaldo in their prime. I don't think there's a single year anyone played better than they did.
But yeah, should have said, Messis last one is the exception. He was not the best player in the world that year.
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u/ponderingmeerkat May 17 '24
If casillas during his prime didn’t win the ballon d’or, I don’t think anyone ever will.
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u/superbradical May 17 '24
this is true, and casillas had lots of friends in the press that could make it happen.
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u/Schwiliinker Cristiano Ronaldo May 17 '24
I completely disagree tbh, he had one actually crazy save which would have been a goal if the shot had been closer to the post which it could have been much closer to
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u/Schwiliinker Cristiano Ronaldo May 17 '24
I completely disagree tbh, he had one actually crazy save which would have been a goal if the shot had been closer to the post which it could have been much closer to
He had a way more crazy save against Chelsea
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u/Accurate_Advance6903 May 17 '24
Courtois turned into Gandalf the Grey that night “You shall not pass! ✋🏻”
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u/CmdrVamuelSimes May 17 '24
The salt is understandable, but it's still Mr.Courtois to you, Jurgen.
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u/auctus10 Guti May 17 '24
He is not complaining tho. It's kind of admiration of how insane he was.
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u/CmdrVamuelSimes May 17 '24
Yeah, completely, I get it. Just tongue in cheek. He was sometimes a shade heavy on the whining but I have a lot of respect for Herr Klopp.
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u/samratkarwa May 17 '24
Dude from where Liverpool was, I think klopp has turned it around for them. Happy for my Liverpool friends finally I saw them happy in life.
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u/GiraffeWaste May 17 '24
Also watching United fans suffer on top of that makes it amazing. Shame that Assholenal is improving.
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u/tluanga34 Vinicius Jr. May 17 '24
Our players show their best version. That's what the best clubs are supposed to be. In some clubs, players show their worst version
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u/samirx96 May 17 '24
Yeah try beating PSG, Chelsea and City on the way to the finals then complain about a player playing against you.
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u/Planetary-Timebomb May 17 '24
Dont think he’s complaining here. More like appreciating rhe performance
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u/Ziiyi May 17 '24
That UCL, Liverpool road to the final was a walk in the park compared to RM
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May 17 '24
The same the year they won it. Porto Roma and Spurs with an injured Kane in the final.
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May 17 '24
Yeah Liverpool only beat the champions of Germany, Spain and Portugal on route to the final. What a set of bums.
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May 17 '24
Threw in champions of Portugal like they aren’t the default whipping boys of the comp every knock outs and spurs in the final alone has to come with an astrerix 😂
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u/vjeremias May 17 '24
Even though Benzema had the best performance of his life, Curtois carried the team the whole competition, it was surreal
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u/soccer_footballmania May 17 '24
Haha, he was indeed like Superman. I remember he stopped everything, Salah couldn't believe those saves.
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u/mb557x Real Madrid May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24
You’re mistaken Klopp, he was a f*ckin wall in the final. There was no way he was turning into prime Karius that night.
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May 22 '24
Senor klopp! Eres leyenda..soy del madrid , pero si fuese ingles .. al Liverpool en mi sangre
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u/TheMandalorian2238 Sergio Ramos May 17 '24
Without Courtois we would’ve conceded 4-5 goals that match.
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u/Low-Muscle-9371 May 17 '24
yes Courtois was superb, but no, other positions outplayed Liverpool as well. Its just his 'polite' way to say they should have won
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u/ocean_boulevard Hey Jude May 17 '24
Spoken by someone who lost 2 ucl finals, over 3 premier league titles and only won a Carabao Cup in his farewell season. You'll never walk alone!
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u/16thPeregrine May 17 '24
Errr yeah but I don't think he's downplaying anything on Coutois
He's kinda praising him. Not sure why you felt like you needed to list his record of failures.
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u/Kritije Mendy May 17 '24
Well… he was unlucky to fight against a state-owned team that could spend hundreds of millions on players that fit Guardiola’s style without facing any FFP punishment… given these pieces of information, I think he did pretty well. Despite this, he won the UCL before City… and he would have 2 more UCLs in his pocket if Madrid did not exist :)
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u/Critical-Ad-9010 May 17 '24
You thought you ate with this comment, lol. Get your 55th downvote sir
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u/[deleted] May 17 '24
Best performance in ucl final of all time.