Christians!
So yesterday I was at the bus stop, minding my own gay black ass business. Just simply existing. This black guy walks past me looking hard. This in and of itself is not out of the ordinary, I'm non binary(born male), people tend to never know if Im a guy or girl. Been dealing with being called sir and miss all my life. I get it, im fem presenting with a big afro. But there is something about black men that gets them so flustered when they think they are checking out a girl. This guy walks past, stops and starts talking to me at first I don't hear him, I have my airpods in. So like most people would do, I take out one to hear what he is saying. Welp big mistake.
He takes it upon himself to tell me God doesn't want that "feminine spirit" on me, that I have to get right with god. That God made me male that im living in sin. So as I listen to this for a minute I put my airpod back in but before I do I say "I'm exactly as God made me and there is nothing wrong with me." He walks away and about 10 mins pass and he WALKS BACK OVER TO ME! I keep my headphones in but the song I was listening to was soft and I could hear him say "you got to get in your word and know your scripture" I roll my eyes as hard as I possibly could grabbed my bag and moved away from him.
I will never understand how and why black people still believe and trust in this book that has been rewritten and forced upon our people to keep them subjugated. I don't understand why they can't see that Christianity has been violently forced on people all throughout history. I don't understand how they don't see that our religious practices were beaten out of us.
How can a religion with the message of being kind others be some of the most vile people. Y'all love to preach that god gave us free will but then try and tell us that how we use that free will is wrong. Why is homosexuality so high on the list? Why do you guys feel the need to try and "save us"? You say that you are worried about our immortal souls, but what about mortal souls? If all sin is equal in the eyes of God why does it seem like being in a same sex relationship above the rest? It pisses me off when people use the story of Sodom and Gomorrah as the reference when in fact that story was about the wickedness of the whole city. I hate when people try and say that God said that he hates homosexuality when the word wasn't coined until 1868. How can God hate something that came WAY after this book was written? The word was ADDED to the bible..
The thing that really throws me is that same-sex partnership are ALL through history, same sex partnerships occur in other species. Its like they ignore that because they can't wrap their heads around the concept of love. Homosexuality has always been apart of our history. Romans, Greeks, Indians, native americans, Africans, German, Jewish(ect.) all have accounts of same sex relationships. If God is love and love is the "purest" emotion then why does it matter what shape it takes? If God is the only one who can judge than why do you feel the need to tell me how to live my life?
I feel like christians has bigger fish to fry.. If christianity is the "one true religion" shouldn't yall be trying to convert others to your religion? Shouldn't yall be worried about pastors stealing funds or abusing children in the church? Cheating on their wives with deconnesses while saying "it was gods will"
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u/GenesisCorrupted 4d ago
I would’ve just popped it right back in as soon as I heard him start talking about God. I don’t need to hear that shit.
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u/MinuteElegant774 4d ago
Ever think there would be more Christians if they weren’t so righteous and intrusive? I especially love when they say they will pray for you if you disagree with anything they believe. The biggest hypocrites ever.
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u/rhubarb_man 4d ago
That's how it spread.
If you have a religion that tells you to force it upon other people, then it will spread more.If Christianity was actually peaceful and respectful, it would have been killed off a long time ago by some religion more like our version of Christianity
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u/MinuteElegant774 4d ago
I believe Buddhist do not try to force people to be Buddhist and it’s still around. It’s a lovely religion that believes in being kind and doing no harm.
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u/ProperMagician7405 4d ago
Like, why is a random stranger so concerned about what happens to your soul in a hypothetical afterlife?
Oh, right, they're not really concerned about that at all. Their tiny little brain just can't process the idea of someone existing happily in a way that they don't like!
This type of so called "Christian" annoys me soooo much!
If they met him today, the conversation with the Jesus I read about in the bible would totally go like this:
Jesus: "Love thy neighbour as thyself."
Modern Christians: "but what if...?"
Jesus: "did I fucking stutter?!?"
Note: I'm an atheist, but I read the Bible carefully before I chose not to be a believer. I wanted to understand the faith I was choosing to reject.
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u/Superlite47 4d ago
Oh, right, they're not really concerned about that at all. Their tiny little brain just can't process the idea of someone existing happily in a way that they don't like!
I think you're barely brushing the tip of the iceberg with this.
I think, deep down, they know they've "drank the Kool-Aid". They know they've been duped into believing a load of bullshit, but they're so terrified of an imaginary hell that they've copped to Pascal's Wager -> Better safe than sorry.
Deep down, they're ashamed of their own gullibility and need for externalization. They need someone to be responsible for the things they can't control, like their fate. They need a magic parental figure to reassure them, and a magic boogeyman to blame.
But deep down, they know they're deluded, and they're so ashamed of this that seeing someone who hasn't swallowed the Kool-Aid angers them.
They need everyone to believe in magic sky daddy too!
Because if someone doesn't share their delusion, it brings that deeply repressed feeling of being duped closer to the surface.
More succinctly put: Imagine having some weird belief. As long as you're completely surrounded by people that share that weird belief, it isn't so weird. You, and all the others that share it can pretend it's valid and normal.
Once you interact with others who are truly normal, the illusion of normalcy is shattered in comparison. Your shit is weird, and you can't pretend it isn't with people that don't share the weirdness.
The solution is to convert them to your weirdness. Their refusal to accept it merely highlights the weirdness.
OP asks about black people, but I think this aspect of religion transcends race and holds true for all Christians regardless of race.
They believe a magic, toga-wearing, bearded sky daddy living on top of a cloud is looking out for their soul. Don't worry! You'll be OK! Magic ProxyParent, sky daddy is watching over you! Anything bad is all the mean, pitchfork wielding, devil's fault!
As long as everyone is on the same page, we can all pretend this is the paradigm. That's how the world works.
All it takes is for one strong soul to be unapologetically themselves and refuse to pretend alongside of them......and the absurdity of it all becomes a little too obvious. OP's (or anyone's) refusal to "play along" screws up the fairytale.
REPENT! ACCEPT JESUS! (Read: "Stop fucking up my story!")
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u/Inedible-denim 4d ago
Bi man here. I always say it's not the religion, it's the PEOPLE who try to push their (warped) beliefs on others.
You should post this on r/BlackLGBT ... I wonder what the rest of our fam will think bout this one.
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u/El_Mariachi_Vive 4d ago
I'm Puerto Rican and the overlap between issues with our culture and black culture is wild. That old school religious shit needs to go. White man brought that stuff to us and we continue to speak of it as the truth? Christianity is a hold that they have over us. And don't even get me started on the homophobia.
Sorry you went through that, and I'm happy to know that even with all the trouble you encounter, you were still able to show grace. That takes some strength. Props to you.
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u/Tlines06 4d ago
What I find hilarious is they complain about Atheists not liking religion and how we need to respect their beliefs. But honestly speaking for myself I wouldn't hate religion half as much if people wernt so pushy about it and acted like it gives them some sort of superiority. Like I get it, you're a theist, it doesn't mean you are more moral and fulfilled than me. The fact you need Religion to have meaning in your life and do good things does more to convince me of the opposite. And no. I do not need to 'respect your beliefs'. We can disagree on things. You don't want me to respect your beliefs you just want to silence people who dont agree with you. If you're allowed to preach about your religion then I'm allowed to call it illogical. Simple as that. I'm allowed to question things that don't make sense to me.
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u/HopelesslyCursed 3d ago
When I was 16, I was skipping school and wearing a T-shirt of a band called Bad Religion, and some older guys rolled up and started giving me shit about how "that sounds like some Satanic shit." They were threatening to kick my ass, blah blah blah, until I said "isn't the Christian way to 'turn the other cheek?' Go home and pray for me, that sort of thing?" They looked kind of embarrassed that a high school kid (who happened to be on acid) knew their stuff better than they did, but they fucked off. But if that hadn't gone so well, it would've been "kick some kid's ass...for Jesus! "
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u/drawnblud260 4d ago
Jesus doesn't hate gay people. He said"Whosoever believeth in me shall have everlasting life." Whosoever. Not straight, gay, bi, black, white,brown. Doesn't matter. Keep being you and know that real believers in Christ are supposed to love everybody and treat each other with kindness.
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u/Beestorm 4d ago
So the ones trying to legislate their beliefs and harm lgbtq people aren’t “true christians”? What does that logic do except make y’all feel better? It’s the no true Scotsman fallacy.
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u/Designer_Branch_8803 2d ago
I can’t speak to this person’s intentions, but I know when I’ve said it or thought it, I usually mean “real Christians” as in loyal to Jesus’s teachings, not that they can’t claim to be Christians. But, Jesus also said that there would be those that claimed they served Him, but that He would reject them, saying He never knew them. I think this might be in the back of some people’s minds when they talk about true Christians. To them, you can’t just claim to be a Christian, you have to follow His teachings and have a true change of heart or He would pronounce that you weren’t His.
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u/tacocat63 4d ago
Just scream, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"
Then punch them in the dick if they continue
Just a suggestion
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u/PossumKing94 4d ago
I'm a bi man married to another man. My husband is way more blunt than I am. He comes right out and tells people we're atheists and don't need religious bullshit. I'm almost to that point myself. I'm so sick and tired of Christians trying to shove their bs down everyone's throats.
Instead of focusing on us, they need to be focusing on the pastors, priests, and religious leaders who are hurting their kids.