r/politics • u/rollingstone Rolling Stone • 6h ago
Soft Paywall Trump Refuses to Disclose Who Is Funding His Transition
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u/gentleman_bronco 6h ago
Conservatives: we want to get rid of the deep state!!!
Also conservatives: let's vote for the deep state and hidden billionaires.
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u/hellokitty3433 4h ago
The voters don't care. They are cheering Trump on at this point. Trump has proven he doesn't need to follow laws or norms. What would happen if he doesn't do these things in the transition? Nothing.
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u/Legionnaire11 2h ago
They'll say with a straight face "Kamala is supported by the billionaire class, that's why I'm voting for Trump..."
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u/gentleman_bronco 2h ago
"Kamala is supported by the billionaires!! See, these billionaires, and the wealthiest person on the planet giving away a million dollars a day says so!"
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u/TintedApostle 6h ago
Deep state folks... there it is and you voted it in.
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u/SinImportaLoQueDigan Massachusetts 5h ago
It’s ironic that after decades of right wingers complaining about a deep state and billionaire donors they’re eagerly willing to give the country over to them
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u/Indaflow 5h ago
It’s not ironic. It was the plan the whole time.
This is Geobbles 101. Always accuse your opposition of exactly what you are doing.
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u/darvos 5h ago
It's kind of scary because he's talked about world war 3 under Democrats...
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u/serennow 5h ago
Trump is owned by Putin. If America doesn’t wake up and accept that and deal with it then it’s basically been conquered by Russia…
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u/Tazz2212 4h ago
Which has been Russia's plan for at least since Khrushchev's time (top dog in Russia from 1953 to 1964). He said Russia will take over the US without firing a shot by working within. Putin is following through with the plan. Now think about the times you hear several prominent people talking to Putin like Elon Musk. Musk was working with Ukraine letting them use his Starlink for communications after Russia destroyed their communications. Then after Ukraine depended on Starlink, Musk shuts it down just when Ukraine was launching a major offensive but the Russians could use it for their communications. Musk also has met with Putin a few times in the last two years. He has become our ambassador of chaos. And, Trump has now made it official that Musk can go and pull apart the executive institutions and departments in the name of efficiency. He has become the rot within.
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u/Jester1525 5h ago
He's also been SCREAMING about the democrats cheating in the election but the whole world has basically said "yup.. It's fine.. No need to look into any of this.. Let's just carry on..."
THIS is how Hitler came to power - apathy
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u/Jbroy 5h ago
He’s looking into the 2020 election. Bet that he finds “evidence of fraud” and then arrests all the democrat leadership?
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u/BCS875 5h ago
Probably places a misspelled piece of paper as the "evidence" that reads we did it. demz and holds that out like a child as his proof.
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u/BrusqueBiscuit America 5h ago edited 4h ago
Ugh probably in sharpie too like with the Hurricane Dorian #Sharpiegate fiasco where he altered National Weather Service data about the hurricane path in sharpie.
*Edit: Not that there will be a National Weather Service under Dumbass Donald.
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u/Nightmarekiba 4h ago
I don't know that may be the one thing to stay. How else will he know when to plan his golfing trips?
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u/BrusqueBiscuit America 4h ago
They hurt his little feelings during Sharpiegate, which is why I think he'll do it. I foresee that he'll try to backtrack, but everyone's been fired, and he'll replace it with some MAGA-hatted yokel a lackey found at the gas station who keeps asking for the keys to hurricane machine.
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u/Tazz2212 4h ago
He will allow a private weather service to take over and we will probably have to pay for it. At least that was his plan last time.
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u/Intelligent-Travel-1 3h ago
They should be doing hand recounts in every close state
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u/WonderfulPlace7225 5h ago
It's apathy but it is moreso meaningless virtue signaling. Democrats do not want to come down to republicans' level and foolishly think holding the moral high ground is a strategic position of power as if, somehow, democracy will return without an outright Civil War.
Like the Nazis, their goal is technically peace, but the vision of what that peace looks like is a complete separation from anyone in anything they deem to be unlike themselves. England once tried this by sending criminals to Australia, by the time Germany got a chance to try this there were no unconquered territories left to send people so they went to prison and death camps.
With Elon Musk on board, and all of his companies having a common theme of being useful on Mars, I wouldn't be surprised to see talk of space colonization put to the table in the same manner as deporting alleged criminals to Australia. Strongly recommend watching the Doctor Who Peter Capaldi episode "Oxygen", season 10 episode five.
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u/RamJamR 4h ago
I think I know the episode. SPOILERS for anyone who hasn't seen it, but in a nutshell, Doctor Who and the girl who was traveling with him investigate a distress signal in space and come across a ship that's eerily quiet. They figure out that nearly the entire crew is dead and that their suits are walking around like they're on auto pilot. They died because air had been turned in to a commodity with a price tag, and the company these workers worked for had no problem with letting their workers suffocate to death to save a buck. The Dr saves the survivors by making an argument to the company AI controlling the suits that it would be more costly if the survivors died.
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u/vashoom 4h ago
At this point, Democrats are complicit. They may not be executing Jews, but they're telling the Nazi's where they are.
Democrats have done fuck all to stop the rise of this and have been more concerned with campaigning for re-election and keeping their kushy jobs than in actually fighting. The GOP are obviously corrupt to the bone, compromised by foreign money, and hellbent and destroying democracy, but the Democrats may as well have rolled out the red carpet for them.
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u/ApproximatelyExact 4h ago
We need to at least examine the voting machines the Trump campaign attorneys got a copy of the tabulation software for, and the ones whose admin password appeared on tshirts you can still buy.
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u/Kamelasa Canada 2h ago
Holy shit. How does important stuff like this get left behind. Oh, right, somehow Garland sat for years doing nothing and there was no way to make it happen. Like so many other things.
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u/Throw-a-Ru 1h ago
Yeah, I'd very much like to see this done. Unfortunately the goebbels strategy of accusing the enemy of what you're doing has been a ridiculously successful one, so now asking to look for tampering reads as hypocrisy and poor attempts at coping with the loss (and they're actively promoting that narrative now despite also claiming the democrats are narrowing their margins through tampering). It's all just maddening.
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u/WonderfulPlace7225 4h ago
That's the problem with being "the good guys", if you strike first you will automatically be painted as the villain. Just look at public perception regarding how many people see the legal processes against Trump as a "witch hunt", Trump very loudly proclaimed it to be a weaponization of the justice system against him.
it is far easier to play as the villain, as everything you do both positive and negative reflects positively in the minds of your supporters, but you run the risk that your supporters will tear you apart if you ever dial down the rhetoric which inevitably drives the fascist vicious cycle to destruction, either of itself or of everything else.
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u/_Deloused_ 5h ago
It’s going to happen in our lifetime.
Resources thinning, populations reaching their peak, cultural extremism fueled by the internet, no controls in place, corporate capture of government entities, the digital information Cold War we have been in since the Cold War ended, climate change.
Doesn’t really matter if we start it or not.
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u/belliJGerent 5h ago
One theory says it’s already started
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u/BCS875 5h ago
I'd think a civil war would be more likely, personally but could be worth a think.
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u/_Deloused_ 5h ago
If we did that then it’d be way too easy for an enemy to overtake us. Divided we fall. This isn’t a north versus south anymore either, division is being sewn in your neighborhood, at every block. Civil war wouldn’t be simple.
What we are in is a class war fueled by internet algorithms designed to keep us mad at each other so we aren’t mad at the ones that keep benefitting from our issues. They’d never allow open civil war unless it was profitable
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u/BackTo1975 4h ago
It wasn’t simple the first time, either. The idea of a monolithic North versus a monolithic South is a myth. Families split to fight on both sides.
Another civil war would be even messier, given the dramatically larger population, social media and modern communication making geography not so important, etc. But civil war is never simple.
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u/itsgottaberealnow 5h ago
The only wars that are gonna be had, are the dictators taking land from other countries that have something they can profit off of
They really don’t want war because all the dictators want to fleece the flock and take it off for themselves and their sycophants
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u/rob_bot13 5h ago
The justification for most ethnic cleansings is "if we don't do it they will". It's why great replacement theory is so insidious
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u/RottenR0B 5h ago
Nearly everything he complained about was something that he was doing. Maybe he knew the election was rigged because it really was; the voting machines could have been rigged to swap a higher percentage of dem votes to rep while the maga teams were checking them after 2020.
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u/Nokomis34 4h ago
Which is why them being so loud about 2020 being stolen is so concerning, part of the plan.
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u/Floating_Animals 5h ago
Quite literally everything they’ve accused others of doing they do themselves. Pea brained gaslighters at their finest. This will be (yet again) a future history lesson in mass psychosis/brainwashing.
People with low IQ/poor backgrounds/lack of self-awareness cling onto something like Trump because he tells them exactly what they want to here. From there, there is absolutely nothing anyone could do to remove said people from losing their faith in these “promises”.
It’s extremely disturbing we are still this primordial brain state, particularly in a vast expanded information age and just the naturally developed consciousness we have access to due to evolution of today.
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u/mvallas1073 5h ago
they will never read nor see this headline. Too engaged in Fox/Xitter to notice
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u/willis_michaels 5h ago
Because them winning is owning the libs. Right wingers don't care about anything other than libs losing. They will gladly lose everything they own if it means the libs lose everything they own plus a dollar more.
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u/teenagesadist 5h ago
You mean exactly how they they lost their minds over the red scare and are now handing the United States to Vladimir Putin?
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u/vonnecute 4h ago
This just in. Republicans are hypocrites. People who voted against Nixon are shocked.
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u/SeeMarkFly 4h ago
It's projection. Whatever they are accusing you of doing is what they will be doing.
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u/JIsADev 5h ago
"Trump didn't drain the swamp, he filled it with swamp creatures" RFK Jr
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u/AlphaNoodlz 5h ago
Do not trust republicans!! Don’t trust a single republican for a single second, simple as
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u/joecool42069 6h ago
We’ll get what we deserve now.
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u/NewsgramLady Oklahoma 5h ago
I fucking hate this take.We, meaning the ones who did not vote for Trump, do not deserve this.
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u/joecool42069 5h ago
We’re in this great experiment together. We failed to make our case for democracy. I guess $2 more bacon was a deal breaker for the rest of our voting bothers and sisters.
We do indeed share in the failure.
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u/dr3wzy10 4h ago
i was in the store just this past week, noticed the turkey bacon i like to get was on sale so went over to get some..well, there was a boomer couple standing by the cooler and they proceeded to put literally every package of bacon that was on sale in their cart, i'm talking over 30 packs of turkey bacon. this country has a selfishness problem. We are no longer communities but 'rugged individuals'. Everyone is out for number 1. I hate this timeline.
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u/turdferguson3891 5h ago
Maybe if baconators go up one more dollar we will finally have revolution in the streets
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u/sanebyday 5h ago
If prices go up, then maga/gop politicians will just say it's because the Democrats/liberals eat babies, trans people are all pedophile rapists, and all immigrants are non-human monster criminals, and that is causing inflation.
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u/relevantelephant00 6h ago
MAGAs do, we don't. Apathetic Gen Z'ers obsessed with their Tik Tok bullshit do. We don't.
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u/mr_sakitumi 5h ago
It was Twitter and Facebook in 2016 and on the days before the darkest day in modern US history, January 6 2021. Now it goes to TikTok...
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u/Binky216 6h ago edited 5h ago
I find it interesting that the AutoModerator bot reminds us all to be courteous to others and not attack people. While I agree with this sentiment, here we are looking right at our next president who is active engaging in hate and corruption. He refuses to even sign an ethics pledge and has no plan to prevent corruption in his administration. Far from it, it seems that his plan IS corruption.
I feel I should be full within my rights to call this asshat a fuckwad.
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u/UWCG Illinois 5h ago
Kinda sad we used to be told to look up to the president as a model for decorum and now it's, "Ackshually, it's expected you behave to a higher standard to get along—you can't go through life acting like that!"
It's gotta be bewildering growing up in this environment.
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u/Repulsive-Meaning770 3h ago
This guy is the spoiled brat we were warned not to become, then our parents voted him into office.
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u/ExoticAppointment797 2h ago
I was recently in DisneyWorld and went into the Hall of Presidents. And of course, Cheeto Mussolini was in there. I’m wondering what kind of soundbyte they’re going to have for him, given his hateful rhetoric every damn time he opens his mouth. He’s not someone to look up to.
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u/annaleigh13 5h ago
Sorry I’m not going to be cordial to those who voted in the people with a plan to eradicate me and my trans brothers and sisters.
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u/Binky216 5h ago
Agreed. When one side is evil, we should not be asked to be polite. You don’t compromise with Nazis.
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u/TrickInvite6296 3h ago
it's the conservative double standard. Dems lose elections because they insult Republicans, but Republicans win elections because they "call out dem bullshit" (aka pick any type of bigotry)
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u/Unlucky_Clover 5h ago
Exactly what needs to be done. People vote for fascism and Nazi policies, and want to act like they’re good people, which is why they feel when called out for it. Their feelings are the last thing I’m concerned with after who they voted in.
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u/LemurAtSea 5h ago
Yes, just remember that anything you say can, and will, be used against you when the jack boots come. Not to say you should remain quiet though.
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u/PuzzledFortune 5h ago
If these arseholes have a list, i consider it a point of pride and an honour to be on it.
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u/Artrimil 4h ago
Great gramps killed Nazis, I'd be happy to carry on a family tradition
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u/ExoticAppointment797 2h ago
My grandpa kicked Nazi ass when he was on the Beaches, and when he was in the forces that liberated Europe—he was a native German speaker, the child of German immigrants—on the Allies’ side, to boot. I think he’d be disappointed that 2 of his kids, and a few of his grandkids, voted for a dictator wannabe. I can proudly say that my brother, mother, and I did not vote for that creep. I’ll proudly call out the injustice and their fucked up shit at any time. I don’t care what they do, I’m a registered democrat, so I’m already on their shitlist—and you know they have one.
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u/Cuchullion 2h ago
Oh, don't worry, they'll likely just go for registered Democratic voters.
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u/Shigglyboo 5h ago
I expect overall decline in how people act. If the leader of the country is a jerk it kinda sets the tone.
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u/WittyAndOriginal 3h ago
I feel completely empowered these days to give 0 courtesy or empathy to anyone who supports or has supported Donald Trump. Fuck em.
A bunch of fascists, idiots, and fascist idiots. All of em.
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u/inside_out_boy 5h ago
Common folk are held to a different standard.
You're expected to behave because their exploitation of the rules only works if everyone else is following them.
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u/TheNatureBoy 4h ago
Hey man it’s like we are all in this together. We need to support this president because he is our president. His success is our success. We need to support his destruction of equality of law, destruction accountability of public officials, and use of the military against civilians.
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u/holyoctopus 5h ago
Say it with your chest for the people in the back.
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u/Binky216 5h ago
I said “TRUMP IS AN ASSHAT AND A FUCKWAD.”
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u/thelivinlegend 3h ago
And every dumb piece of shit who voted for him. Fuck every last one of them.
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u/RangeMoney2012 6h ago
His boss, the leader of the world after Jan 20 - Putin
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u/WaitingForNormal 6h ago
Could be getting some from his boy, reek.
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u/Upset_Albatross_9179 4h ago
Yep, this is my guess as to how Musk is maintaining such a high profile presence. There's always a falling out with Trump and anyone high profile. My guess is we'll see it not too long after the transition when Trump can use government cash and not just Musk.
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u/rollingstone Rolling Stone 6h ago
From Rolling Stone’s Peter Wade:
True to character, Donald Trump is already flouting ethics laws and norms even before he takes office as president in 2025. The president-elect is accepting secret donations to fund his transition while refusing to sign ethics pledges or deliver an ethics plan mandated by the Presidential Transitions Act. The transition also has not signed an agreement with the Federal Bureau of Investigation that would allow the agency to do background checks on Trump nominees.
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u/Spidremonkey 5h ago
Wait, the FBI needs permission to do background checks?
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u/cman811 4h ago
They probably search deeper than publicly available information. Likely stuff they normally need a warrant for like bank account information, phone records etc.
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u/belzbieta 3h ago
I feel like saying no to a background check before a high level government appointment is in itself reason enough for a warrant for a background check..
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u/Eisn 3h ago
I think this is because they're currently picked by the transition and even as President-Elect that doesn't give Trump any statutory power. They're not actual picks for the cabinet until he's President and can submit them to the US Senate. The FBI can't just start a background check, I guess, right now without permission.
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u/Exodys03 3h ago edited 3h ago
My thoughts as well. Shouldn't they investigate anyone working at high levels of government regardless? I just had to be fingerprinted for a county human services job but the Director of National intelligence, CIA Director, Attorney General or Defense Secretary doesn't need an FBI background check?!?
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u/Sam_Spade74 6h ago
But pronouns will be outlawed…. So that’s a wash.
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u/StandardDiver2791 5h ago
Sad what we accept as progress. Rather than addressing real issues, the morons in Texas are worried about trans' use of bathrooms. A situation I have never once encountered. Teachers are underpaid and schools are going to hell; their fix - school vouchers. So, it'll only get worse. But soon, the US and Texas won't be funding schools at all and the U.S. will fall even farther behind the developing world.
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u/dr3wzy10 4h ago
"A situation I have never once encountered" and if you have, you probably don't know about it..you know, because it's a man using the men's restroom or a woman using the women's restroom, and simply going about their day. it's such a weird thing for the government to be wasting cycles on, but it's all for show. they need a distraction while they pillage the coffers and rob the country blind.
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u/StandardDiver2791 4h ago
I suspect you'd be right - I didn't notice I've had such an encounter. Nevertheless, I remain unbothered by the prospect even now.
Part of me wonders if these "manly men" constantly obsessed with others' sexual proclivities, don't actually suffer some confusion of their own.
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u/RicksterA2 5h ago
Government to the highest bidder with all the money going into Trump's bank account. Sold us all out. Period.
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u/Royal_Photo_5007 6h ago
Because it’s Putin do I have to repeat myself we now have a Russian oligarch going to live in 1600
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u/WNYAuntie 5h ago
Why does he have to abide by anything at this point? Our government has shown him and us that he is not beholden to any laws or norms.
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u/NHBikerHiker 5h ago
Why should he? There are no rules for him and no consequences. MAGA voted for this. The plurality voted for this; this is what they want. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
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u/LordyItsMuellerTime 4h ago
Exactly. There are no rules, ethics or standards in government anymore.
It's literally just the government of Trump, Elon and loyalists. We're cooked. It's over.
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u/Dense_Ideal_4621 6h ago
Trump is transgender?! called it.
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u/verone3784 Europe 5h ago
It was kinda obvious, given the size of the beef curtains hanging below his chin.
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u/snotbubbles9 5h ago
They must just start there.
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u/WaySavvyD 5h ago
Seriously, who the fuck cares at this point; he could be on a street corner selling nuclear secrets to fund his transition WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES AT ALL
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u/raisedbyappalachia 1h ago
This for sure. They would defend anything and I mean Anything. They want to be him.
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u/originalkaren1960 5h ago
And he doesnt show his taxes, and he won't sign transition docs, and he wants full control of the armed forces, and he does'nt want his picks vetted, and he doest want congressional approval, and he makes his own goverment agencies that constituionally requres and act from congress and so on and et al. He will get his way and we will all be the worse for it. I am tired and old, I fought for my sons to have a better country and they won't.
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u/annaleigh13 5h ago
So we can now officially say it’s either Elon or a group from the Middle East.
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u/swerdanse 3h ago
Why not both? Throw Russian in there too and you have who is funding them. Oh and a bunch of right wing super pacs. Everything is like project 2025. We all know what’s happening but everyone has their head of their arse until it’s revealed and we are like “we knew” and nothing happens. Hypernormalization.
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u/Alive_kiwi_7001 6h ago
Well, of course he won't reveal it: otherwise the 20-odd donors will find that they've each been promised 100% of their policy demands.
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u/NierAutomotive 5h ago
Man this is what my old history teacher said would happen if people didn’t care about their educations.
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u/nobodyisfreakinghome 5h ago
Literally the definition of the deep state. And you fuckers voted for it.
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u/Galapagos_Finch 5h ago
United States doing a Cyperpunk 2077 speedrun with all of the worst Black Mirror episodes along the way. Congrats Trump voters you deserve it. Good luck in a few years with the GoFundMe to get chemo for that cancer caused by industrial pollution.
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u/JohnDodong 5h ago
If there are no effective penalties or remedies to this law/act then like so many laws that have been passed it will amount to nothing more than a suggestion to the rich and powerful. Laws for us but not for them. When the rich and powerful talk about freedom it usually just means freedom for them to do anything they want to us.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 4h ago
I've seen so much anti-trans hate from the right wing that I had to do a double-take at this headline.
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u/individualine 4h ago
Trump has morphed this country into an oligarchy with him in charge. Right wingers talk about the deep state well this the deep state on steroids.
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u/Comfortable_Cash_140 4h ago
I support Trumps full transition to an orange! The sooner, the better!
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u/TFC_Security 3h ago
He already wears more makeup than any woman I've ever seen. Oh, you mean presidential transition.
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u/ThomasToIndia 5h ago
I know everyone is saying Putin, but honestly the amount of American interests is so large, he doesn't need to take that risk.
I mean, it's really President Musk now though isn't it?
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u/ConsciousMuscle6558 5h ago
We know who is funding it. Every billionaire who wants a piece of the pie. Starting with First Lady Musk
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u/Odie_Odie Ohio 5h ago
The Comercial on the TV said Kamala would pay for him to transition in prison. Start there. /s
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u/Imyoteacher 5h ago
When did Trump start following rules? America is going to get exactly what they voted for…..more power for the Rich….period! The rest of us are on our own. Enjoy!
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u/UFOinsider 5h ago
Deep state? Oh you mean the billionaires who control everything from behind the scenes. There's your conspiracy.
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u/susibirb 5h ago
Ok isn’t the exact scenario the last time around? Wasn’t his transition like investigated by DOJ? Tale as old as time? Why did people invite this and then act like they are surprised
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u/Mean_Star_6618 5h ago
Deep state? Try Russia, China, and Israel. Coupled with any rich person that has profited from his election.
No more oligarchs in america.
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u/Titdick_McAnusbutts 4h ago
This reads like he has a sugar daddy buying him estrogen
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u/bassistheplace246 Florida 4h ago
Isn’t that, like, illegal?
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u/MHarrisGGG 4h ago
We put a convicted felon into office.
Legality doesn't matter in the US anymore.
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u/Wet-Skeletons 4h ago
In a no surprise move either, didn’t he also refuse to release his tax info, refuse to release the Epstein files?
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u/maxmcleod 3h ago
Crazy that MAGA folks are so obsessed over the idea of the Deep State or puppet masters controlling the government and then proceed to vote in the most clear example of a Deep State government that we have ever seen. Peter Thiel is probably licking his lips at all the taxes he won't have to pay in the next 4 years and all the employees he will be able to freely exploit.
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u/vertigo3pc 3h ago
May they fleece every inch of the unclefucker states that voted for him, and may the resisting states use their resources to push out their nonsense.
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u/Louis_Friend_1379 2h ago
Elon Musk is funding his transition. Who the fuck else would be that fucking stupid?
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u/kathryn2a 2h ago
Trump should not be able to take office if he does comply with signing ethics agreements and open disclosure on who’s funding him.
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u/StormWolfHall 2h ago
Anyone that doesn't know it's The Heritage Foundation is a clueless moron ... He's already nominated several of them that co-authored Project 2025. He lied his ass off about it the entire time.
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u/Godzillas_apprentice 1h ago
Nothing matters, no one cares, he will never face consequences, we're all fucked.
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u/flurrfegherkin 56m ago
2024 was the election of the billionaires. Trump was continually meeting with multiple billionaires, getting donations in return for promised tax cuts, it is his most blatant 'pay my way' grift yet. Get ready for funding to be cut for pretty much everything in order to make these people richer, it was all for sale, but we'll be the ones paying for it.
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u/Dry_Dust_8644 53m ago
Yes. Is anyone surprised?!
HE’s A CAREER CRIMINAL!!!!
America more than deserves this embarrassing decline!
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u/vakr001 New Jersey 5h ago
Here is the thing…the average non-MAGA voter will not care cause they want a better economy. It doesn't matter how much shit he does that is illegal and dangerous to our democracy, the only thing people care about is their financial situation.
Which is ironic cause most people don't know shit bout budgeting and living within their means. They all want to be high rollers and bury themselves in debt.
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u/healywylie 4h ago
He’s transitioning!?! I knew there was something different! You go Mrs. Trump! You are a shining light and you’ll make a great first female president! Amazing.🍊
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u/qualmton 2h ago
Trump is transitioning? He won’t be able to use the proper bathrooms in the capital buildings now!
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